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NewbSaibot United States. Dec 01 2009 02:18. Posts 4948 | | |
I havent played any hands online this november. I focused entirely on the various live games in my city ranging from NL50-NL1000, but NL200 was my cutoff. Sadly I failed, playing a hyper aggressive game vs a bunch of live tards trying to push every edge I had. Honestly I feel I just got sucked out on 100% but I'd need HEM to be the judge for sure. So I am absolutely 100% officially done with live play. My style just does not fit it.
Sadly, my style doesnt fit online either. In all reality my style probably sucks, but I think I know what I'm doing, it just only works at higher limits, you know the ones where people fold T8o in the small blind to a 6x BB raise. But then again I probably dont have to make it 6xBB to get into a favorable spot. I've always done well at higher limits. My HEM graphs is all positive from NL200-NL400. It's the micros that kill me. I probably know how to beat them, but I dont have the time to nut peddle all night across 20 tables and win 1 buyin per day before I can move up, and thats not even counting when variance sets you back 10 BI's. Micros are like this horrible slow grind, up and up and up, and then BOOM, you go way down when some fish gets his money in bad. Then you repeat the process, and if you have enough patience, eventually you come out the victor.
So where can I play to maximize fish's mistakes and remove them from the equation at micro limits. I have deemed this to be possible in SNG's. You see, in an SNG, some retard mother fucker can only fuck up so many times before his ass is gone. The way I see it, if I play a 1 table SNG, im not playing vs 9 fish, im only playing vs 3 or 4. The rest will knock themselves out, all the while giving me equity for nothing. Now theres still variance in SNG's. But as long as I can capitalize on my superior poker playing skill vs these 3 or 4 fish I encounter, it should be a cake walk. The other fish self-destruct, and I get to play for payouts vs hardly anyone at the table.
So where does this leave me? Well b/c I cant afford to play NL200 online right now, which I would do with about $1000 bankroll or more, I need to work that shit up. Hopefully I can grind my way through the SNG circuit to about a $200 bankroll or so and then take shots at NL50, the first limit that isnt completely filled with total idiots. It'll still be a struggle b/c theres still plenty of fish also taking shots, but the bulk of NL50 players and up consist of new grinders, people who have read a few articles, seen a few forum posts, and maybe even read a book. As a result, they are trying to curtail their game to a more profitable style, and that includes folding dumb fucking garbage that stacks players like me when we hit TPGK.
My goal is to quickly get into NL100 and above, where I can play my 40/30 style and actually do some range finding postflop.
See it's funny, everyone says the higher the limits, the bigger the bankroll you need, because the players are better. But I see it as the opposite. The higher the limits, the less likely you are to be busting your ass because you know and respect these players, so you arent getting it all in every 2 fucking seconds, because that would be stupid because they arent either without a really good hand. At micro limits, you have to just run with your hands so often because there is zero range finding vs idiots, and then you find yourself getting rivered so often that you need a huge 50 BI bankroll to recover from the suckouts.
Thats my theory and im sticking to it.
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moonk379 United States. Dec 01 2009 02:26. Posts 355 | | |
youll be surprised by the frequency of 3b and 4b at those levels but hope you do well man |
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i think you are just deluding yourself man 
if you can't beat micros, you can't expect to beat low/mid in long term |
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joLin United States. Dec 01 2009 02:35. Posts 3818 | | |
| | On December 01 2009 01:18 NewbSaibot wrote:
but I think I know what I'm doing, it just only works at higher limits |
this delusion is the downfall of every player that cant beat micros. |
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Elite00 United States. Dec 01 2009 02:46. Posts 683 | | |
Yeah it's hard to win when people are throwing money in your face, you can barely see what's going on |
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"that's my theory and I'm sticking to it"
<333333333333
everyone get's stuck sometimes
even ur boy
I actually am rooting for ya
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Exhilarate United States. Dec 01 2009 03:42. Posts 5453 | | |
| | On December 01 2009 01:35 joLin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 01:18 NewbSaibot wrote:
but I think I know what I'm doing, it just only works at higher limits |
this delusion is the downfall of every player that cant beat micros.
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agreed. micros are certainly beatable, and they are very, very soft.
i've started at 2nl->5nl->10nl>25nl->50nl>100nl, etc, etc.
you're probably just spewing or being too FPS. |
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phexac United States. Dec 01 2009 03:51. Posts 2563 | | |
I think you guys are being too tough on him. I don't think most of your realize how tough a game filled with fish can be. Do you see Durrrr playing micros? Heck no. He knows better, so he sticks to the comfort of the nosebleeds rather than going and getting owned at NL25. |
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hoylemj United States. Dec 02 2009 01:52. Posts 840 | | |
| | On December 01 2009 01:46 Elite00 wrote:
Yeah it's hard to win when people are throwing money in your face, you can barely see what's going on |
it's more like grinding for hours exploiting weaknesses then losing all of it and then some in 2 minutes getting your money in as a 90%+ favorite. Rinse and repeat. |
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Chewits United Kingdom. Dec 02 2009 04:57. Posts 2539 | | |
SNG wise, if you have loads of time to grind and very few other commitments, I recommend you grind firstly the $4.40 180man SNGs on stars (NOT turbo). These are so soft, and the ROI if you make FT is substantial. When you make a FT in one of these, the players that are on it too are absolutley horrid and have 0 experience of how to play a FT etc. So it is very easy to go on and win even if you are the shortest stack. I grinded up a decent roll playing these.
Drawback is they do take long, average around 4 hours, but with stars synch breaks now, its much easier.
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RaiZ France. Dec 02 2009 05:44. Posts 1503 | | |
| | On December 01 2009 02:42 Exhilarate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 01:35 joLin wrote:
| | On December 01 2009 01:18 NewbSaibot wrote:
but I think I know what I'm doing, it just only works at higher limits |
this delusion is the downfall of every player that cant beat micros.
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agreed. micros are certainly beatable, and they are very, very soft.
i've started at 2nl->5nl->10nl>25nl->50nl>100nl, etc, etc.
you're probably just spewing or being too FPS. |
What is FPS ? >_< I've probably missed it somewhere... |
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joLin United States. Dec 02 2009 06:41. Posts 3818 | | |
| | On December 02 2009 00:52 hoylemj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 01:46 Elite00 wrote:
Yeah it's hard to win when people are throwing money in your face, you can barely see what's going on |
it's more like grinding for hours exploiting weaknesses then losing all of it and then some in 2 minutes getting your money in as a 90%+ favorite. Rinse and repeat.
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if youre losing hours of winnings and then some to a couple of 90/10 suckouts then maybe you arent winning enough in your 'hours of grinding'. |
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lazymej Canada. Dec 02 2009 07:04. Posts 2897 | | |
| | What is FPS ? >_< I've probably missed it somewhere... |
FPS is fancy play syndrome i.e. elaborate and glorious spews which are totally uncalled for.
OP your approach to micros should heavily be towards just playing straight forward and getting value out of your hands while not paying off when others make big hands. Stick to that basic principle and you will crush. You shouldn't be looking to run big bluffs much at all because people love to call (and this is why we value town them). Hand reading is also less important although it certainly does help. |
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