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palak   United States. Oct 27 2009 06:04. Posts 4601 | | |
So right now I hate my school/major with a passion and can guarantee I won't be a chemical engineer ever in my life. But I will graduate this spring with a bachelors in it. I was going to get a masters in the 4 years but decided to drop it simply due to it requiring a large amount of work I don't see a point in doing when I won't be that as a living or anything close to it. My current life plan is to play poker for a living after I get out of school while having a part time job somewhere where i'm insanely over qualified (like receptionist or some easy 16 hrs a week shit) mostly just to maintain a social life (plus a steady paycheck will be nice). Thinking that I will probably be a 2/4 grinder (which I'm currently playing) when I graduate in May (maybe 3/6 keepin my fingers crossed). I have a friend who I can live with from may to December for super cheap, like 400 a month total rent since he is going to be taking an extra semester to graduate. Also I am planning on becoming a part time student next semester, I only need to take one more class to graduate, so i'm going to take that class alone and use the spare time to put more time/focus into poker and having fun. Maybe try and actually put in like 35 or 40k hands in a month instead of the 20-23k I normally put in right now.
There's my plan, now here's the problem. Parents don't know this. My mom knows I want to play poker for a living and is OK with it, but she doesn't know I dropped the masters and that I want to switch to part time. But talking with her about life isn't my main concern, it's the talk with my dad. My dad doesn't know how much poker I play, or that I want to play it for a living. He thinks I want to become an engineer or enter the professional world with some other full time job or go to grad school. Everyone in my dads family is a lawyer or doctor from a prestigious school I mean Yale/Brown/Harvard/etc. I will be the first one to not do this and will be looked down on by the family. My grandparents have both said they will cut me off of any money if I continue to play poker (they said this like 2 years ago).
I have to tell my parents, bout my future life plans over xmas break (at the latest). I am wondering if anyone has advice for how to carry out this conversation, arguments to make about it, etc. The largest argument of, "look at how much money I'm making" won't work because for my dads family it's not about money it's about job bragging about how great there kids are. What ways would you approach this problem, I'm sure someone on this website had to face a similar problem at some point.
Also any criticisms of my life plan, like back up of bachelors in engineering from a top 20 school with a 3.3 or so GPA isn't good enough, or what part time jobs to look for are welcome.
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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Oct 27 2009 06:31. Posts 14026 | | |
its your life
do what you want. |
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Oly   United Kingdom. Oct 27 2009 06:33. Posts 3585 | | |
I think instead of a pointless job to keep your life ticking you should volunteer for a charity (this is what I do). Not only will that ameliorate your parents' views about you playing poker, it may make yourself feel more useful to society. It's also really really interesting, and because you are a volunteer no-one treats you like their bitch or anything like a boss would. Good luck. |
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palak   United States. Oct 27 2009 06:39. Posts 4601 | | |
| On October 27 2009 05:33 Oly wrote:
I think instead of a pointless job to keep your life ticking you should volunteer for a charity (this is what I do). Not only will that ameliorate your parents' views about you playing poker, it may make yourself feel more useful to society. It's also really really interesting, and because you are a volunteer no-one treats you like their bitch or anything like a boss would. Good luck. |
I will definitely spend time with charities, volunteering, donating etc. I think the charity to part time job ratio will become highly dependent on how much money and how reliable poker is. The better poker is going for me the more I will spend time volunteering. Good plan about telling this to parents, it actually may help a bit. Thanks.
| On October 27 2009 05:31 byrnesam wrote:
its your life
do what you want. |
true and this is my attitude and pretty much my moms. Her view is "as long as you are making a living for yourself and are happy there is nothing else I want" I would just like to not be disowned by 3/4 of my family (everyone in my moms family except my mom plus my entire dads family. |
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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Oct 27 2009 06:39. Posts 14026 | | |
also some of those charity-working chicks are smokin |
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palak   United States. Oct 27 2009 06:41. Posts 4601 | | |
| On October 27 2009 05:39 byrnesam wrote:
also some of those charity-working chicks are smokin |
fuck i hope so, girls at my school are fugly |
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Ftrunkz   Australia. Oct 27 2009 07:15. Posts 384 | | |
You're dad and his family sound like jerks. Disown them before they disown you would be the most agressive line, although may turn out to be -ev in the long run...
But seriously that sucks. Just explain that it's what you want to do and you can always go back to school if you change your mind. If they have a problem with it, it's their problem not yours . |
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Babs   Australia. Oct 27 2009 08:00. Posts 1178 | | |
You can still pull 100k years playing 2/4 & 3/6 with a full time job. I don't understand why you completed a degree you have no intention of pursuing as a career. If you have some interest in the field you've studied you should at least try it out for a couple of years and get some experience. Engaging in a menial job such as secretarial work or any other non-professional or non-trade occupation will be a waste of time. |
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palak   United States. Oct 27 2009 08:02. Posts 4601 | | |
| On October 27 2009 07:00 Babs wrote:
I don't understand why you completed a degree you have no intention of pursuing as a career. If you have some interest in the field you've studied you should at least try it out for a couple of years and get some experience. |
I have zero interest in the field I majored in. I only majored in it because by the time I hated it completely it was to late to switch to a new major without having to take an extra year to finish. Also I am just getting the degree as a backup plan in case poker doesn't work out for me. |
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Babs   Australia. Oct 27 2009 08:06. Posts 1178 | | |
You realise every man and his dog has a degree. Having a degree is not a backup plan. If you have no experience you will not get an interview 2 years out of uni. |
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palak   United States. Oct 27 2009 08:09. Posts 4601 | | |
| On October 27 2009 07:06 Babs wrote:
You realise every man and his dog has a degree. Having a degree is not a backup plan. If you have no experience you will not get an interview 2 years out of uni. |
Also part of the reason why I would have part time jobs places would be to have experience places, could get part time job at an engineering firm if I find there to be a need. Realistically though i won't get a job with the degree, I will just go to grad school and get a PhD in biology if poker doesn't work out. |
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Tycho   Netherlands. Oct 27 2009 08:15. Posts 1553 | | |
eh how about doing a study in which you are actually interested in
finish the bachelor
start another bachelor
play poker, study something you find interesting --> win @ life
working part time as a receptionist or in a field you are not interested in sounds stupid |
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palak   United States. Oct 27 2009 08:18. Posts 4601 | | |
| On October 27 2009 07:15 Tycho wrote:
start another bachelor
play poker, study something you find interesting --> win @ life
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not too interested in doing another bachelors...would be to much money w/o enough gain
doing grad school in something I find interesting will almost certainly occur if I become to bored w/ poker to do it for a living or just life fail at poker and need to do something else for a living. I will probably read up on things i'm interested in all the time, but going to school and trying to play poker at the same time would be to draining to do either very effectively. |
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Tycho   Netherlands. Oct 27 2009 08:20. Posts 1553 | | |
hm in the netherlands tuition is much cheaper than is usa i forgot
come to netherlands, do an international study, play poker ? |
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palak   United States. Oct 27 2009 08:22. Posts 4601 | | |
| On October 27 2009 07:20 Tycho wrote:
come to netherlands, do an international study, play poker ? |
doctoral grad school in america is free, bachelors degrees though cost like 30k a year, 50k at a good school.
Going to re-tour europe with friends this summer if i have the money, going to be fucking awesome. |
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lostaccount   Canada. Oct 27 2009 09:22. Posts 6438 | | |
tough call but you know how much is the will? if its a big amount i might consider dropping poker or play so they wont know and still keep me on the will. get a job to fake so it makes it like im not playing poker. i guess you come from a pretty rich family so money isnt as important as job bragging. i probably just stick to poker cuz i love it so much most of the time but play it secretly so it hurts no one. |
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palak   United States. Oct 27 2009 09:25. Posts 4601 | | |
| On October 27 2009 08:22 lostaccount wrote:
tough call but you know how much is the will? if its a big amount i might consider dropping poker or play so they wont know and still keep me on the will. get a job to fake so it makes it like im not playing poker. i guess you come from a pretty rich family so money isnt as important as job bragging. i probably just stick to poker cuz i love it so much most of the time but play it secretly so it hurts no one. |
No clue what the will is, could be a lot could be nothing. They won't die for like 10+ years though so I'm not even thinking about that right now. Plus I don't want them to die cuz they r awesome cept for the whole hating poker. My dads side of the family r all rich snobby new york corporate lawyers, except for him. He's more down to earth then 90% of his family, but even he won't come close to accepting this. Hard to brag to his friends, all his friends have children who are lawyers or judges or doctors.
Also can't keep poker a secret, it's fucking annoying to constantly lie and get questioned by people. My stepmom has a psychology degree and my dad is a lawyer, getting cross examined from the two of them and keeping my story straight is super fucking annoying. Plus my step mom is friends with me on facebook, biggest mistake of my life. |
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Oly   United Kingdom. Oct 27 2009 09:45. Posts 3585 | | |
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL the hardest parents to lie to ever |
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palak   United States. Oct 27 2009 09:49. Posts 4601 | | |
| On October 27 2009 08:45 Oly wrote:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL the hardest parents to lie to ever |
My actual mom (who is OK with me playing poker) is a former private investigator. So ya between the three of them lying so fucking annoying. |
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gawdawaful   Canada. Oct 27 2009 10:07. Posts 9012 | | |
um, looks like its long term +EV to go to grad school and take however long you want while keeping the poker bit underwraps from your grandparents until they croak no? |
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