The Way of the coward.

You shouldnt be afraid of playing anyone at NL10.

I am not afraid of them at all. I read them like a freaking book and its easy to categorise them. But they too much fall into the category of rocks, however many exploitable spots they have.


This is much easier and better for my roll:

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growing roll is secondary to getting better.

tough spots and awkward positions are where you want to be. You have a great tool here where you will get advice from good players for free.

And thats the purpose of my 6Max play on NL2 (I split my attention about 50/50 to NL10 FR and NL2 SH now).

FR I play VP/PR 12/10, 4 tables with about 60 hands/hour/table
SH I play 23/20 4 Tables 100 hands/hour/table

Many many more SH hands that I can play and analyse, and I have no urge at all to break my BR management or not respect my BI's, as I have a second roll which gives me the cash.

FR for the moneyz, SH For the skillz, is this a bad approach?

The aim of poker is to make money. Doesnt matter how you come by it and you will have to learn to play fish and reg's

VP<20 and PFR<10 sounds like a proper juicy table for anyone who can LAG it up (LAG aint 23/20 imo)!

It seems awfully complicated for microstakes.

Select a game youre comfortable with (FR or SH) and run with it.

Your aim is to play as wide a variety of opponents as possible. So whilst its not a bad idea to start table selecting as youll be using this more and more later on. However you want to learn to play against the nits, the rocks and the shortstacks. Theyre all part of pokers rich tappestry and you want to be on the loom weaving that motherfucker for all its worth.

yea i dont like that
u should focus on FR and learn how to play ABC
and remember u are still learning, dont be result oriented just try to play god and money will come in time
no need to rush anything

On March 25 2009 09:37 byrnesam wrote: It seems awfully complicated for microstakes. Select a game youre comfortable with (FR or SH) and run with it. Your aim is to play as wide a variety of opponents as possible. So whilst its not a bad idea to start table selecting as youll be using this more and more later on. However you want to learn to play against the nits, the rocks and the shortstacks. Theyre all part of pokers rich tappestry and you want to be on the loom weaving that motherfucker for all its worth.

Omg Cult post Byrnesman, that was so beatiful man!


But I have one massive leak in my personality (not only in poker) -IMPATIENCE.
In Poker I find two urges

1) The urge to make money
2) The urge to outplay my opponents (Yeah I am a BW player)

And when BOTH of these are not fulfilled I tent to start tilting or try to be creative (BAD BAD When you have only 22BI's and play with nits FR).

But when I alter the rolls its gone. When I feel like making money I nit it up on NL10 FR, and when I feel like playing some pure poker I go rampage SH NL2 where the money its absolutely isignifficant and I play it like BW with decisions all over the place only for their sake.

I know that the perfect way would be focus just on one, but unfortunately with my personality I don't think I can handle it and the ridiculously fequent tilts were eating me up. But since I alter the games I havent tilted.

On March 25 2009 09:45 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On March 25 2009 09:37 byrnesam wrote: It seems awfully complicated for microstakes. Select a game youre comfortable with (FR or SH) and run with it. Your aim is to play as wide a variety of opponents as possible. So whilst its not a bad idea to start table selecting as youll be using this more and more later on. However you want to learn to play against the nits, the rocks and the shortstacks. Theyre all part of pokers rich tappestry and you want to be on the loom weaving that motherfucker for all its worth. Omg Cult post Byrnesman, that was so beatiful man! But I have one massive leak in my personality (not only in poker) -IMPATIENCE. In Poker I find two urges 1) The urge to make money 2) The urge to outplay my opponents (Yeah I am a BW player) And when BOTH of these are not fulfilled I tent to start tilting or try to be creative (BAD BAD When you have only 22BI's and play with nits FR). But when I alter the rolls its gone. When I feel like making money I nit it up on NL10 FR, and when I feel like playing some pure poker I go rampage SH NL2 where the money its absolutely isignifficant and I play it like BW with decisions all over the place only for their sake. I know that the perfect way would be focus just on one, but unfortunately with my personality I don't think I can handle it and the ridiculously fequent tilts were eating me up. But since I alter the games I havent tilted.

Lemon - I dont get it, I have same 2 problems you do but taught myself discipline - but you already must have discipline otherwise you wouldnt be able to nit it up on NL10FR surely.

What you are doing is making excuses that your personality demands you do it this way - thats just bollocks.

I play poker 5+hrs/day
I am strongly an activist type of personality (the test in HR classes says so ;o).

So yes, I indeed have the discipline to play very tight and just observe the games. But when I lose a BI, or, god forbit, I get tired or bored of the nitting after 1-2 hours (When I am tired FR and I get the hands I play I start to to gamble like slots addict) I lose it, I stop being disciplined and my progress is in dire straits.

Either I start being creative or I start Multitabling (12++), which both have horrible effects.


I have the discipline, but its very limited.

Now when I play shorthanded I have the luxury of completely ignoring my BR (I can't resist checking it every 10 minutes NL10 FR), but if I would make the transition completely I am scared of the Cashier Freak effect coming back. Plus I have the most fun playing poker I ever had

focussing on fish is always +ev in every limit.

There is no such thing as a FR nl10 table with all regs.

Not a bad approach at all, there are plenty of tables with multitabling nits even at nl10, it's much better for your profit to focus on fish and moving forward. If you can beat the limit doing that, then do it and move to the next limit and figure out a strategy to beat that limit. You don't have to do it the hard way, and you will learn playing like this as well.

On March 25 2009 09:10 LemOn[5thF] wrote: I am not afraid of them at all. I read them like a freaking book and its easy to categorise them. But they too much fall into the category of rocks, however many exploitable spots they have. This is much easier and better for my roll: + Show Spoiler + Submitted by : LemOn[5thF] PokerStars Game #26342114868: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/03/25 10:02:00 ET Table Konkolya II 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: Fat_Vicious ($7.35 in chips) Seat 2: KastiPoker ($12.80 in chips) Seat 3: AbschakAmalu ($4.70 in chips) Seat 5: twoface1969 ($8.60 in chips) Seat 6: zogobrcar ($10.70 in chips) Seat 7: HENRYCKMORIN ($8.80 in chips) Seat 8: zakath44 ($11.50 in chips) Seat 9: DoC.LemOn ($11.05 in chips) twoface1969: posts small blind $0.05 zogobrcar: posts big blind $0.10 Holecards(Odds) Dealt to DoC.LemOn HENRYCKMORIN: calls $0.10 zakath44: folds DoC.LemOn: raises $0.40 to $0.50 Fat_Vicious: folds KastiPoker: folds AbschakAmalu: folds twoface1969: calls $0.45 zogobrcar: folds HENRYCKMORIN: folds Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.20)     twoface1969: checks DoC.LemOn: bets $0.75 twoface1969: calls $0.75 Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2.70)     twoface1969: bets $0.80 DoC.LemOn: calls $0.80 River (Pot : $4.30)     twoface1969: bets $1.50 DoC.LemOn: calls $1.50 18undsexy leaves the table Showdown twoface1969: shows (a pair of Eights) DoC.LemOn: shows (a pair of Queens) DoC.LemOn collected $6.95 from pot Summary Total pot $7.30 | Rake $0.35 Board   Seat 1: Fat_Vicious folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 2: KastiPoker folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 3: AbschakAmalu (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 5: twoface1969 (small blind) showed and lost with a pair of Eights Seat 6: zogobrcar (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: HENRYCKMORIN folded before Flop Seat 8: zakath44 folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 9: DoC.LemOn showed and won ($6.95) with a pair of Queens

if you had a clear read on him why didnt you just raise the turn?

btw GL on your strat, just leave some fishes for the rest of us