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JoeDeertay   United States. Jan 04 2008 01:54. Posts 1730 | | |
Even though I've been running relatively bad/breakeven lately (running only 1.13ptbb/100 this week over ~13k hands 24-tabling 10NL) I think I am getting much better at poker by playing so many hands. I feel like my hand reading has improved dramatically and I've also started realizing how to properly manage my image and metagame, etc. (although it might not matter so much at 10NL, it obv will matter down the line as I move up). I know I'm playing great right now and I'm just hitting a few roadbumb breakeven sessions, but when I am running good again I think I'm going to be winning a lot of money.
Here are some examples of how confident I am in my game...I was really happy that I was able to pull both of these hands off and be right about them while 24-tabling FR. That tells me that reads/plays like this are becoming more second nature to me:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/351633 - Here I had made a standard raise preflop and a standard cbet in position of a HU pot. The PSB on the turn didn't make much sense to me...I didn't think he would play 55-77 this way, and an overpair probably would have raised/bet by now. Also, a boat made absolutely no sense, because why would be try scaring away a FD that is drawing dead but might not know it yet? I thought the only thing that might beat me here is a 3, which also didn't make much sense in a raised pot, so I shoved for value.
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/351670 - This one is against a fellow LPer, so I already had some kind of idea going into the hand of how he might play/think, and who that for that reason he probably isn't an idiot. I noticed that he was sitting on a few of my tables as well, so he knew I was multitabling. We have a little bit of history as too, and he had been playing very tight and aggro, so I thought that if an A came I might be able to win a lot more than just 3betting preflop. I call on the flop to float and try repping the FD if it hit because I was sure he'd fold to it and because I might also have showdown value against his range. Turn wasn't a good card to bluff with. On the river he had checked again, so I thought AK might actually be good here and if not it would fold out some of the hands that beat me. I had my mind made up that if he raised then I would 3bet all-in, because I thought that he might put me on a missed draw that he thought I would bet, and since I already thought he was probably weak, a CR bluff would be his play often enough on the river to make a 3bet bluff profitable. Even if he had some kind of hand he might fold thinking I now have a boat or the nuts after showing such aggression on the last card. I was right that he was weak throughout the hand, but he managed to straight up on the river, yet I was able to make him believe that I boated up because he didn't think I would make such a bluff on the river while 24-tabling.
I was 100% sure that both of these plays would work, and I'm actually proud of myself for making them accurately. I think the AK hand might be one of the best hands I've ever played, and I hope I can keep it up. As for the rest of my play, I've been constantly getting my money in good and I've been really good at avoiding nit-coolers, but lately people have been hitting when getting with with bottom pair when I have an OP or something. This obv won't last forever though, and I can't wait to run good again...I think I am completely outplaying my level and playing the best poker I've ever played. I can't wait to just win enough to move back up to 25NL (if it weren't fo an $80 cashout I'd pretty much be there now).
Peace all and GL!
-Joe
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Python817   Canada. Jan 04 2008 02:58. Posts 2733 | | |
I think with the AQ hand you're over thinking it and it'd be better to just fold at nl10 people do things that don't make sense |
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brudman   Canada. Jan 04 2008 03:12. Posts 615 | | |
both hands are spew and you are not learning much by 24 tabling when your fundamentals aren`t there |
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MiPwnYa   Brasil. Jan 04 2008 04:54. Posts 5230 | | |
Both hands are ridiculous, you obviously suck you shoudn't be 24tbling before you have a significant edge.
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lachlan   Australia. Jan 04 2008 05:30. Posts 6991 | | |
wow lol 3 harsh comments
i must admit i liked reading the hands and ur thoughts :-)
pretty cool, but u have to admit u were very lucky that first hand. that guy proved he is a donk by calling ur shove hehe
do u have any hands against me? i'm curious :D
and also these guys have a point, try to avoid making fancy plays like in hand #1 ever again!! if this hand repeated itself 100 times im pretty sure u would lose at least 95  |
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exalted   United States. Jan 04 2008 07:54. Posts 2918 | | |
the AK hand is _REALLY_ bad, it only worked as kimseongshan played it worse
if you think these fancy plays = good game, lollll |
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Bejamin1   Canada. Jan 04 2008 08:55. Posts 7042 | | |
LOL @ having reads while 24-Tabling! You wish man. Learn the basics before you start multi-tabling like mad! Fancy play syndrome + 24 Tabling = Busto! |
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k2o4   United States. Jan 04 2008 09:09. Posts 4803 | | |
I think the AK hand wasn't so bad since it was kimo and he's the type of guy who would think exactly what he thought.
The AQ hand seems like spew to me - feel like you overthought it and even vs a thinking player it's a bit marginal imo.
Glad you're playing well =) |
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JoeDeertay   United States. Jan 04 2008 10:56. Posts 1730 | | |
Well I don't see how I'm spewing if I am constantly getting my money in ahead when I am playing and my rare bluffs are contantly working. It's not like I do this kind of stuff constantly...these are just 2 hands from a 6k hand session yesturday lol, and really for the whole week. I also don't see what the problem is with bluffing and shit like that if it's in the right situation against the right player, but I can see how it could be considered spewing at 10NL because it's 10NL. Anyway, my point is that I don't have fancy play syndrome because I don't constanly make fancy plays...I just do it when I am like 100% sure it'll work, which obv is very rare, so these plays are very rare. Also....what could he have in the AQ hand anyway? At worst I think I still have to have 6 outs there. |
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