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JoeDeertay   United States. Dec 15 2007 12:23. Posts 1730 | | |
This isn't really poker related so I don't know why I am writing this here, but I guess I need to just get it all out so I can clear my head or whatnot. The fact is that I am basically failing at life in general, and don't know what to do about it. Sorry about it being long too.
I'm a sophomore in Aerospace Engineering at Penn State's main campus, and for the last 3 semesters I've just sucked at school. I could get good grades at will in HS without even studying ever and I tried bringing that mentality to college, and obv it doesn't work. All I would do is slack off and party freshman year, not go to class, etc. etc., and I ended up with a horrible 2.22 GPA by the end of the year. This year I was supposed to come back and bring it up again, and my parents even told me that if I don't have a 3.3 for this semester that they would stop paying for college and I couldn't go here anymore (my dad figured out that I would need a 3.3 this semester in order to have a chance of getting into my controlled major). I was looking at my grades and used our GPA calculator to see what I could possibly get this semester, and I'm CAPPED at a 1.75.
It's the same old story - skip class if I just didn't feel like going, therefore missing Econ pop quizzes left and right; starting homework at the very last minute thinking I could do it and ending up not finishing it or doing a shitty job, waiting to long to start studying for tests, blah blah blah. The worst part about it was that the whole time I KNEW what situation I was in and wanted to do well, but I had the "well, I can take a break this ONE time" over and over and over again, until it got to a point where I just fucked up another semester.
I just figured all of the numbers out so my parents don't know yet, and I don't know how or when to tell them. I know they are proud to say that their son goes to a big D1 school and is training to be an Aerospace Engineer, and I'm proud to tell people that, and I basically took that away from them. Now I'm just another loser who failed at college and has to be a regular person. I don't want to tell them because I know it'll break their hearts, and that it will always be in the back of their heads when they are with me that "he could have been somebody, but he threw it all away" or something. Even though I know they'll still love me obv and even if they don't show it, I know it'll be there.
I just don't know what to do. I don't want to leave because I love it here, and I supposed to have an apartment in State College next year, so I really can't LEAVE the city for at least another 2 years or whatever, but I know I basically can't fix what I have already fucked up. There is no way (barring some kind of miracle) that I will be any kind of engineer, so if I want to stay in college I'll have to find something else. I was thinking of switching to Economics because I think it is very interesting and that I'd actually be motivated to do the work (since it is easier and all that), and because you can still make a good living on an Econ background. However, this doesn't have nearly the same prestige as Aerospace Engineering, and I know my parents are still going to be disappointed in me no matter what happens.
I think the reason I haven't been as motivated in school is because I really didn't want to be an Aerospace Engineer, like it wasn't what I REALLY wanted to do in life. If it was, I'd be motivated to do as well as I possibly could all the time, instead of just telling myself that and then slacking off the entire semester. Maybe I could have that in Econ, but I just don't know. TBTH, the only thing I have been motivated like that for is poker (lol).
I know I am only a penny player right now, but when I was at 25NL I had a good enough winrate to be making a pretty good hourly wage for a college student at like $15/hour. That's a decent living even at 25NL. Hell, I am making $8 an hour playing 2/5NL right now. I guess I realized how much you can actually make at poker, and I know I have fun playing it, and I know I am talented/skilled enough to beat it regularly. The only problems holding me back in the past were psychological - having big tilt issues, not being able to take losses and therefore chase them, not realizing the true value of the money I do make, etc.
I think I have improved a lot in these areas, so maybe I actually CAN at least support myself/make a small living from poker, but if I told my parents that they would just think I am a crazy degen and be even more disappointed in me, thinking I am wasting my life by gambling all the time. Because of this, I still want to go to school, but I know that school and poker won't go well together, especially if I am trying to pay bills by playing. Of course it would be a different story if I was back to at least 25NL or even higher, but that is beside the point. Basically I think I have to make a decision between college or poker, and go all out on one and forget about the other.
Over winter break I am going to play A LOT almost every single day, and I am going to come back in the spring and finish out the year. Depending on how well I do over winter break will help me decide my future in poker, and whether or not I think I can become a big winner and do it for a living some day. During the Spring semester I'm going to try and do as well as I can in everything at school and limit my playing time to maybe 1-2 hours a day, spending the rest of the time studying. However, I already tried doing that this semester, and look what happened...
I don't know. I am just very disappointed in myself for fucking everything up and not living up to all of my expectations. The worst part about it is that I am a really smart kid and can definitely do all the work and cruise through college if I would just do it on time, but because I am just lazy and unmotivated I keep fucking things up. Hopefully everything works out. Sorry for spewing my guts out like this, but I just felt like I needed to get it all out. Thanks a lot for reading and putting up with my bitching.
Peace and GL,
-Joe
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Jelle   Belgium. Dec 15 2007 12:30. Posts 3476 | | |
fuck now you'll have to be a regular person, a soulless loser who didn't get straight A's aka damnation |
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JoeDeertay   United States. Dec 15 2007 12:34. Posts 1730 | | |
Thanks Jelle...I know I will have to be a regular fucking person, I'm just more worried about my parents and how disappointed they will be. That hurts more than anything else. But thanks for your comment, really. |
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collegesucks   United States. Dec 15 2007 12:35. Posts 5780 | | |
15/hr playing poker sounds good lol.. funny how academic discipline doesnt necessarily translate to poker discipline. as for me, I have neither, so I guess I'll pack my bags and go to Iraq or something lol. |
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nolan   Ireland. Dec 15 2007 12:47. Posts 6205 | | |
gotta want it if you're gonna be better than the next man.
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JoeDeertay   United States. Dec 15 2007 13:02. Posts 1730 | | |
| On December 15 2007 11:35 collegesucks wrote:
15/hr playing poker sounds good lol.. funny how academic discipline doesnt necessarily translate to poker discipline. as for me, I have neither, so I guess I'll pack my bags and go to Iraq or something lol. |
lol sounds goot XD |
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JoeDeertay   United States. Dec 15 2007 13:03. Posts 1730 | | |
Sorry for sounding like a bitch through this but I'm just kinda scared of my parents at this point. I know $15/hour isn't great but I mean it's something, especially on top of a real job, so iono. |
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Svenman87   United States. Dec 15 2007 13:17. Posts 4636 | | |
just re-deposit 200 bucks and you'll be fine |
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redrain0125   Canada. Dec 15 2007 13:49. Posts 5455 | | |
man up deposit $500 and grind out nl25, NL10 is just a waste of time
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buffalo78   Canada. Dec 15 2007 14:34. Posts 229 | | |
First off, you gotta find a way to motivate yourself. This isn't HS anymore, you're studying for what you'll be doing the rest of your life. I graduated as a physiotherapist this year and it was the hardest thing I've ever done. I spent my weekends in the library my first 2 semesters because I had 7 classes and 26 hours a week. Either you want it or you don't. But you have to be willing to make the sacrifices necessary. I used poker to pay for tuition, although in canada tuition is about 7000$ a year. The point is that if you're in a serious uni program such as yours, the majority of your time needs to be dedicated to your studies. If not, you'll get crushed in every way and you're obviously experiencing that.
Forget the idea of playing poker as a living. Unless you're playing 3-6 and crushing forget it. Use poker as a tool to add to your income while you study. But you need to be disciplined enough so it doesn't affect your studies.
Is engineering what you really want first off? If not then... I have 2 friends that are engineers right now and I know they put alot of time into studying because they wanted the end result. Obviously Economics will be a less demanding course load but that shouldn't factor in your decision.
If you're main problem is getting motivated then you need to wake up. Stop wasting your parents $$$$$ and be a man. Take a poker break and focus on school. In a few years you'll look back and ask yourself "WTF was I thinking", don't let that happen dude, GL |
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JoeDeertay   United States. Dec 15 2007 14:34. Posts 1730 | | |
The point is that I can't deposit ATM...if that was the case then it'd be an ez fiz obv. But because I am broke from not having a job during school, I'm a little stuck and need to rush back to 25NL if I want to play there again. |
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Kapol   Poland. Dec 15 2007 15:03. Posts 4696 | | |
If Engineering isn't the thing you want to do in life, than don't do it. I'm sure the thing that your parents want the most is you being happy. Tell them that you won't be happy as an engineer and you want to study something else. They'll surely understand. |
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RAHZero   China. Dec 15 2007 15:07. Posts 109 | | |
I'm in a very similar situation to you. Graduated HS at the top of my class, got As doing very little work, went on to Cornell Engineering. Bombed my first two semesters, came back this year, tried to motivate myself and did a much better job than in the past two semesters, but still didn't do all that well grade-wise. I decided that Engineering isn't for me and will be switching to Economics starting in the spring. You can't keep trying to do Engineering if that's not what you want to do for a living. There's still time to turn your situation around. |
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JoeDeertay   United States. Dec 15 2007 15:15. Posts 1730 | | |
| Forget the idea of playing poker as a living. Unless you're playing 3-6 and crushing forget it. Use poker as a tool to add to your income while you study. But you need to be disciplined enough so it doesn't affect your studies. |
I realize this. I'm not saying that I am going to be a 25Nl "pro", but I am asking myself whether I really want to be a college student or not, and instead of persuing a "real" career, do I want to persue a career in poker or something down the road so that I can eventually be crushing 3/6. I don't want to waste my parents' money either, that is why I am trying to find out if I really want to go to school or not. This isn't a random "OMG I WANT TO DROP EVERYTHING AND BE A POKER PRO LOLZ" post, but I really don't know if I am cut out for college. As for using poker as a "job", I DO use it just to pay for my credit card bill and stuff, but nothing too serious, just getting by what needs to get paid. I totally get everything you said though. |
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Ja hunta   United States. Dec 15 2007 15:17. Posts 1329 | | |
NO WAY im talking to myself.. Not sure if you were around in the summer but i posted a rant JUST LIKE THIS, no seriously just like this lol.. but that was 6 months ago.
1. Fuck your parents lol thats what i said, get a major you wana do and will enjoy other wise studying fucking organic chemistry and shit like that with no motivation will only leave you stressing at 4am every fucking weekend.. FUCK em... Do what you want to do or you'll die. lol
2. Our situation is a bit different in that your parents are threating to stop paying for your school/ my parents just cut the money back some. So you just have to reason with them about ur new studies.
3. Im not sure i agree with this going pro in one area thing. I thought of that too but i when you run bad u dont know what you will do. The thing about running bad is you change your game completely try to squeeze marginal situations when you can let it pass and before you know you END UP LIKE NEILLY..
What i am currently trying to do is to get good grades with my new major and play poker on the side. That means cutting out friday nights from time to time and saturdays as well. Its hard but you have to do what you have to do.
4. Its funny. I am lazy and unmotivated at times like you. But you have to find the motivation, for school i have to compete with others or shit wont get done, make a bet at the beginning of the semester to see who ends with the highest gpa for the semester. Do something son. And im pretty sure you can find motivation for poker all over this forum.
5. Being that your situation is so familiar and your broke, pm me (jakidcapone on AIM) and we can talk, ill surely help you out to get started.
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acdawg712   United States. Dec 15 2007 16:59. Posts 2639 | | |
That's tough to hear, Joe. Good luck and i'll see you over break. |
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k2o4   United States. Dec 16 2007 21:25. Posts 4803 | | |
That's my college story! I know how that goes. It feels horrible. Buckle down and get the best grades you possibly can for the rest of the time you're there. Remember how shitty it feels right now and realize that doing well in school will feel great. Avoid this feeling and strive for the successful feelings. Then once you're done with however much school you're definitely doing, refocus on what you really wanna do. So, if you are definitely staying through next semester, go 100% till then (even if it means quitting poker) and do your best. If you're done after this semester, do everything you can to make this semester a winner and then refocus your life.
You'll have to decide what you REALLY want to do. It's hard to know right now, cause well you're young. But it's pretty easy to know what you REALLY DON'T want to do... so make sure you're not doing that then take your best guess @ what you want to do, then do it 100%.
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SemPeR   Canada. Dec 29 2007 02:17. Posts 2288 | | |
| [B]Basically I think I have to make a decision between college or poker, and go all out on one and forget about the other. |
Not necessarily. Take two years off from poker, concentrate on studies n shit, shift poker to a side-hobby or something if you can, and come back when you have your priorities straight; drop out or request an extended leave, concentrate on poker while you figure out what you want to do. life ain't over yet. =s |
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