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voodoouser   Iceland. Dec 14 2007 20:54. Posts 741
Cant win vs stupidity... nl10 is full of shit, you raise a hand = all limpers call and will call until river no matter what they have & what you do... AA,KK,QQ, AK etc versus 5 people isnt a good hand anymore, i have no clue.
bad beat over bad beat, it's just unbeatable...

Submitted by : voodoouser

Hand #48600671-18836 at Hunlock Creek (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 14/Dec/07 21:38:23
emf85 is at seat 0 with $9.50
Hero is at seat 1 with $9.78
elt963 is at seat 2 with $21.43
otiethegreat1 is at seat 3 with $7.49
Chumpzilla419 is at seat 4 with $15.37
Mark_ is at seat 5 with $10
The button is at seat 2
otiethegreat1 posts the small blind of $.05
Chumpzilla419 posts the big blind of $.10

Holecards(Odds)
emf85: -- --
Hero : KhAd
elt963: -- --
otiethegreat1: -- --
Chumpzilla419: -- --
Mark_: -- --

Mark_ calls
emf85 folds
Hero raises to $.45
elt963 folds
otiethegreat1 re-raises to $.80
Chumpzilla419 folds
Mark_ calls
Hero calls

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.05)

   Ks3c6d
otiethegreat1 checks
Mark_ checks
Hero bets $2.50
otiethegreat1 folds
Mark_ calls

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $6.05)

   Ks3c6d3d
Mark_ checks
Hero goes all-in for $6.48
Mark_ calls

River (Pot : $19.01)

   Ks3c6d3d9d
(no action in this round)

Showdown
Hero showsKhAd
Hero hasKhAdKs3c3d : two pair, kings and threes
Mark_ shows8dKd
Mark_ has8dKd6d3d9d : flush, king high

Summary
$1.02 is raked from a pot of $20.46
Mark_ wins $19.44 with flush, king high




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TianYuan    Korea (South). Dec 14 2007 20:56. Posts 6817

I dunno if this is the best idea ever for NL10, but when this Mark guy cold calls the 3bet, just shoving or 4betting AK might be good, since there's a lot of dead money in the pot.

But I mean, calling and stacking off here is fine too, really nothing you can do.

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

voodoouser   Iceland. Dec 14 2007 20:58. Posts 741

and that's just an exemple of what keep happened to me during the last 4 hours

 Last edit: 14/12/2007 20:59

Sheitan   Canada. Dec 14 2007 21:27. Posts 4217

What ? u overplayed your hand, yes u had the best hand and got sucked out on but if you play abc i guarantee you'll beat this level ez. Open your range, abuse position and value bet them to the death, that's the way to beat NL10. If you have tilting issue you should play shorter sessions until you figure it out.

Odds are exactly 50%, either happens or it doesnt Last edit: 14/12/2007 21:27

voodoouser   Iceland. Dec 14 2007 21:30. Posts 741

You cant really open your range because every limpers will call your raise so you ended with an average hand vs 3 or 4 people... that's what i'm trying to say.

and yes i overplayed the hand because the guy played every hand, he's like 100% vp$ip and 0% PFR and call until river 100%.

 Last edit: 14/12/2007 21:32

Silver_nz   New Zealand. Dec 14 2007 21:46. Posts 5647

NL10 is rigged, stick to NL5 till you are ready for NL25


TianYuan    Korea (South). Dec 14 2007 21:58. Posts 6817


  On December 14 2007 20:27 Sheitan wrote:
What ? u overplayed your hand, yes u had the best hand and got sucked out on but if you play abc i guarantee you'll beat this level ez. Open your range, abuse position and value bet them to the death, that's the way to beat NL10. If you have tilting issue you should play shorter sessions until you figure it out.


He didn't overplay his hand, he has TPTK vs a complete fish in a 3bet pot - it should be treated as the nuts (vs most people in 3bet pots).

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

milkman   United States. Dec 14 2007 22:13. Posts 5719

when u get minraised preflop, you might want to think about reraising depending on the player.. also i dont like your flop bet, make it 1$, other then that, everythings fine, but u cant say every hand is a cooler or bad beat if your still doing things wrong.. running bad is like 50% bad luck and 50% your game going to hell.. we all know how your feeling, but it will pass, and if you dont lose to much of the good parts of the game that got you to where you are. you will come out on top.

my advice, try to limit your cashouts, and play less tables, and create a stop loss point, just decide that if you lose 2 or 3 buyins or w/e then your going to stop.

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

Bejamin1   Canada. Dec 14 2007 22:14. Posts 7042

Your such a complainer. This is 10NL. The game will never be easier than it is right now. Essentially your complaining about idiots who will pay you off with crap hands over and over again and will basically play with their card face up. That's like printing money. Just value-bet your hands when you're pretty sure they are best, in the long run you'll make a killing because you'll hold up more than you'll get sucked out on. It's pretty simple. If you can't beat NL10 poker is not for you.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

brudman   Canada. Dec 14 2007 22:28. Posts 615

the best advice i can give you is "don't try to win every hand"


 



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