Retiring Poker- Post career options

Why don't you try Omaha and see if it can sparkle your interest again? I don't see better opportunities than poker atm, I know you are running bad but you can have great profit winning at the stakes you play

Reason why I filtered only hold'em in the 2nd graph is to hide my losses in small stakes PLO

getting pretty close to this post myself.

rip. you're a true hero

Too soon. Its not April 1st yet.

i feel you bro

started on a big rant here but it got to messy, i went w the short sumup instead

ggwp, good decision imo!

Doing the same thing with programming. Difference is poker money is still pretty easy and available live. Maybe a 40-60 $/hr is not worth it for you and you are sitting on enough money now to purely study and transition straight into programming.

You're a smart man. I'm certain you'll succeed in any endeavor you strive for.

Fuck poker man. I wish I never discovered this game tbh.

Cheers fella

I also turned into a programmer heh

I remember awhile back I got jealous, because I saw you got into GM in sc2, and I tried that for ages, always stuck at high masters. Then I saw u had one of them really comfy chairs I wanted!! And then I found out you played high stakes!

Felt like a newb, thinking "damnit, I've tried so hard, why do I just suck at stuff" lol!

this is a decision u cannot regret, gl. My best decision was that i stopped poker completely and started university in engineering. The money i made was enough to cover my expenses for those years, and now i do what i like. Creative work with a fix salary with cool ppl around.

its never too late to start studying, get a BA degree, and work next to it part time, get connections etc

On March 22 2015 05:54 ClouD87 wrote: Why don't you try Omaha and see if it can sparkle your interest again? I don't see better opportunities than poker atm, I know you are running bad but you can have great profit winning at the stakes you play

if u dont enjoy playing the game, anything is better than poker

gl rest of the way andrew

gl andrew, you seem like the type of person who will succeed at just about anything you put your mind to.

since you're learning Ruby on Rails, you might want to check out The Odin Project, it's a pretty substantial curriculum (creator says about 1000 hours but some say that's on the low side) designed to make you employable and uses RoR (as well as Javascript, HTML/CSS). i haven't done it but i've heard good things, it seems more project-driven and less theory-focused than most online courses.

i took CS 6.001x (using Python) and thought it was awesome and everyone seems to agree, for someone like me with no prior coding background it was quite challenging in the good kind of way. however i've also heard good stuff about CS50 so if you're taking that it might be a little redundant?

i'm sure you've done your own research and maybe know this but Stack Overflow is an indispensable resource for progammers. the moderators there can be really nitty about what type of questions are allowed but i guess that's what makes it a good resource for succinct answers to technical questions.

i also like Quora for more general questions like 'if i want to X, should i learn language A/B/C?' or 'what's the difference between working at startups/big tech companies/finance' etc, you can find a lot of impressive people on there giving some pretty enlightening answers imo.

Wat? Coding is extremely boring compared to poker, isn't it? is there any way to make 15k monthly after u mastered Ruby in US?

On March 22 2015 11:38 okyougosu wrote: Wat? Coding is extremely boring compared to poker, isn't it? is there any way to make 15k monthly after u mastered Ruby in US?

software engineers at Google, Facebook, Dropbox, etc. make about that or close if you count bonuses, stock, etc. and can easily surpass it with some experience.

not to say that Ruby is the only necessary skill for those positions, but it kind of doesn't matter, once you reach a high level in one language you can learn other languages fairly quickly, every programmer has to learn new technologies during their career anyway, it's not like you can learn Ruby and call it a life. companies are looking for someone who has certain skills, but also someone who shows the aptitude to develop skills they need/will need.

HFT fund programmers have base salaries starting in low 6 figures but can earn massive bonuses (like 3-4x base salary+) with a bit of luck. they don't use Ruby for that afaik though (i think it's mostly C++ and some functional languages depending on the fund like Haskell or Ocaml).

or there's the entrepreneurial route which can be high risk/high reward obviously.

i think whether coding is boring is highly subjective, a lot of people enjoy the combination of logic and creative process. i mean, there's parts of coding that are probably boring even for people who enjoy coding, but yeah, if you find coding makes you miserable you probably shouldn't pursue it just for money.

On March 22 2015 05:54 ClouD87 wrote: ...I don't see better opportunities than poker atm...

it's kind of mind-boggling you continue to repeat this when nearly everyone who's in a position to know better than you consistently says the contrary

I've recently quit poker as well and I know now that I should've quit 2 years ago. I haven't enjoyed the game for 2 years and when you're doing something you don't enjoy, like someone else said, anything is better than poker. And I was making a whole lot less than you. My motivations are that I want to commit myself to some use in society working with nice people all day. I have a finished bachelor's degree in civil engineering so from the start of the year I've been making preparations to find a job in that field (like creating a resumé, linkedin and stuff). That has culminated in a job interview last friday which went really well and another one tomorrow. Hope I bink one of them.

Long story short: when you don't enjoy poker, make the smart decision and quit that shit. It's depressing as fuck. It truly sucks the joy out of life when you're in a downswing. I feel much more happy now not having to worry about the game and actually going on job interviews and such. It gives me a lot of motivation to succeed.

On March 22 2015 12:35 bigredhoss wrote: Show nested quote + On March 22 2015 05:54 ClouD87 wrote: ...I don't see better opportunities than poker atm... it's kind of mind-boggling you continue to repeat this when nearly everyone who's in a position to know better than you consistently says the contrary

Who is in a better position to know what Cloud sees than Cloud ? He is talking about his perceived view of livelyhood opportunities and coming from someone who played games for his entire life I can see and relate to where he is coming from.
Andrew obviously sees it differently and we can only applaud him since he is light-years ahead of almost anyone who visits this site in terms of skill and still made the decision to quit which is probably the toughest one that poker pro can make.

On March 22 2015 13:04 Twisted wrote: I've recently quit poker as well and I know now that I should've quit 2 years ago. I haven't enjoyed the game for 2 years and when you're doing something you don't enjoy, like someone else said, anything is better than poker. And I was making a whole lot less than you. My motivations are that I want to commit myself to some use in society working with nice people all day. I have a finished bachelor's degree in civil engineering so from the start of the year I've been making preparations to find a job in that field (like creating a resumé, linkedin and stuff). That has culminated in a job interview last friday which went really well and another one tomorrow. Hope I bink one of them. Long story short: when you don't enjoy poker, make the smart decision and quit that shit. It's depressing as fuck. It truly sucks the joy out of life when you're in a downswing. I feel much more happy now not having to worry about the game and actually going on job interviews and such. It gives me a lot of motivation to succeed.

I enjoyed reading this post. Hope you snag one of those jobs too, Twisted. Good day kind sir

On March 22 2015 14:47 BlizzY wrote: Show nested quote + On March 22 2015 12:35 bigredhoss wrote:   On March 22 2015 05:54 ClouD87 wrote: ...I don't see better opportunities than poker atm... it's kind of mind-boggling you continue to repeat this when nearly everyone who's in a position to know better than you consistently says the contrary Who is in a better position to know what Cloud sees than Cloud ? He is talking about his perceived view of livelyhood opportunities and coming from someone who played games for his entire life I can see and relate to where he is coming from. Andrew obviously sees it differently and we can only applaud him since he is light-years ahead of almost anyone who visits this site in terms of skill and still made the decision to quit which is probably the toughest one that poker pro can make.

Cloud is definitely the #1 expert on Cloud's perception, good call there.