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dryath   Australia. Aug 02 2012 22:55. Posts 1317
Hey guys,

So quick update on my last blog (about caffeine dependence). So I couldn't actually find anything solid about how long i would need to give up caffeine to get over it properly, but I think i decided that 2 weeks was what I would do. So I gave up for 2 weeks just after that blog post sometime (which was midsemester), and found it made me grumpy and irritable as fuck for a solid 2-3 days. I ended up then drinking it again probably 1/day on average at first, then slowly up to 2/day and when i got into the 3-4 weeks before my uni exams i was throwing down 3-5 a day (not always, but when i was trying to study for sure, as it was almost one of my go-to distractions).

Anyhow, the question i have for everyone today is about poker + resume. In particular im interested in hearing from Aussies about this as i think our employerers might look at it a bit different to US or other parts, and i know we definitely write our CVs a bit different and longer (which fucking sucks fyi).

So since i took 2010 and 2011 off uni and played poker full time both years (SNE in 2010), my resume is really really weak and lacking. I also do like no extra-curriculars that i can throw on like being in those gay clubs at uni and actually doing stuff. to be fair i am a member of them but i dont actually go or do anything hah. So for anyone writing a resume are you including/excluding poker from your resume and how are you going about it? - particuarly interested in those others who dont really do much other stuff for whatever reasons you might have. My resume is for the Finance/Banking industry as atm im in the middle of applying for a bunch of internships in this field.

So let me know guys, and if anyone thinks they have a good CV where they did or didnt use poker, feel free to send it over to me (if you want)!

Thanks guys, GL at the tables for those still playing, and GL in the full time job grind for those in or soon to be joining the working ranks =)

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Siro   Australia. Aug 02 2012 23:14. Posts 1540

I actually spoke with the CEO of a large forex company and explained my situation, he was fairly thrilled with it all and thought highly of it. Offered me a job, but I opted to continue with poker for now.

I keep my resume updated and it reads very well, particularly for the finance sector. Make sure you include relevant skills/attributes you have from poker. I think the main trouble will be getting it past the recruitment staff and not instantly rejected though. I was fortunate to be able to speak directly with someone.


djforever   Canada. Aug 03 2012 00:08. Posts 1510

im in the finance area too. i chose to not put it on my resume but rather to mention it after i was hired. i had a lot of extracurriculars though so my resume looked decent without poker and i didnt really have a huge gap anywhere. i got into the workforce immediately after school. if you are looking to get into a good entry level spot just apply and speak well in your interview and im sure youll be fine. poker teaches you a lot of awesome skills that you can directly apply to a lot of the situational interview questions without being specific. being vaguish is fine as long as you give them what they are looking for. getting into anything decent as a first job without a killer resume is tough in the finance industry. idk if its the same in austrailia but in canada thats the case. if you show progress towards a cfa thats pretty great all around regardless of what else you have. even intent to try to get it at some point is good.


spets1   Australia. Aug 03 2012 00:52. Posts 2179

I dont put it, but im engineering.
I have some gaps.But iworked for about 2 years in engineering field so that helps. But im currently looking for job also, haveb een without work for like 8 months

hola 

SoC   United Kingdom. Aug 03 2012 02:39. Posts 999

Am in investment banking in the UK and i'd not put it. Bosses are generally slightly older generation who don't fully understand it all so look down on you for it and see you as risky.

Just make up crap for the uni clubs you was in


iop   Sweden. Aug 03 2012 05:02. Posts 4951

Never really played full time, working as an Analyst today and didn't mention poker.

Milkman lol i didnt spend half a thousand on a phone so i could play it cool and be all stealth 

flounder44   United States. Aug 03 2012 08:06. Posts 916

lol try asking this in a non-poker forum and lets see what normal people think, rather than a largely biased internet poker playing 24/7 nerds.


rS.Wisdom[9]   United States. Aug 03 2012 10:12. Posts 1288

in my experience, high ranking decision makers in companies often think poker is very interesting and a positive thing unless they have a moral objection.

however, if you're applying to a company's HR department, that is often done by young to middle aged women, and they don't usually understand or see it as a negative.

i had an interview for an internship i got a few years back where my future boss thought it was the coolest thing ever and wanted to talk all about it, basically skipping all the normal interview questions (poker was big on my resume). however the girl who read my resume before was very unimpressed and did not recommend me for this job. i was lucky to at least be given an interview, where the boss eventually gave me the job, but if they had a ton of candidates, i might have been skipped by the HR girl from even getting a chance.


Rolon   Netherlands. Aug 03 2012 12:27. Posts 229

in general i too think you should take a conservative approach and not mention poker at all on your resume, because the chance of getting rejected is higher. they can think you are a 'gambler' or they can ask in an interview why you did not become a professional and then you might have to say that you're not good enough (i dont know if that is true).

i work for a big fmcg company, and normally an okay-ish CV with good personality in interviews and acing aptitude tests should be enough to get a job.

still, you have that 2 year gap on your resume and you just have to prepare that the interviewer is going to ask about that. if you feel that the interviewer can appreciate your pokerbreak, i would gamble and tell it, then you stand out from most other applicants.

Chi Chi get the yeyo! 

gororokgororok   Netherlands. Aug 03 2012 16:29. Posts 3940

Yes I put in it. I kept it short though, I said I made over 100k during 1500 hours of poker.
From my experience they like it very much. You can tell a lot about it, like how you set your own targets (SNE f.e.) and succeeded in meeting these targets. It also says something about ambition, vision and dedication. Be prepared to explain why you quit as well.


rS.Wisdom[9]   United States. Aug 03 2012 17:23. Posts 1288


  On August 03 2012 15:29 gororokgororok wrote:
Yes I put in it. I kept it short though, I said I made over 100k during 1500 hours of poker.
From my experience they like it very much. You can tell a lot about it, like how you set your own targets (SNE f.e.) and succeeded in meeting these targets. It also says something about ambition, vision and dedication. Be prepared to explain why you quit as well.



i've always stayed away from talking about money. they might think you'll quit once the work gets hard if you have poker as an alternative, or just have money in the bank to fall back on while you look for a new job. money is the proof of being good at poker, but it easily sounds like bragging or even intimidating to others to make decent money playing a card game. however, i never actually talked about it, so maybe it doesn't actually work this way in practice.

i agree with the goals part, and if you did it, it'd also be great to talk about coaching others, or networking with stronger players to learn from them. also, having a detailed plan to talk about how you accomplished your goals and motivated yourself should be a big plus.


sanath123   United States. Aug 04 2012 00:47. Posts 2

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