TimDawg United States. Jan 16 2012 18:54. Posts 10197
What's up everyone?
I hope everyone had good holidays and a good new year. I basically have just recently really got back into poker. After BF I pretty much just stopped playing for a good while and just didn't really have any passion to grind. It was a good break and mentally I got back to where I need to be.
I started to really get into the live scene. Playing a lot around town and going to some casinos. I had 1 final table in a $215 event where we ended up chopping 3 way and I ended up getting 4.2k.
A few months after that, I went to West Palm Beach, Florida to a place called the Kennel Club with my roomate. This place was probably the best poker room I've ever played at in terms of soft/good games. I played mostly 5/10 which played really deep and loose (more like a 10/25). The first few days I won about 2k, then had a pretty bad day and lost 3.5kish. The last day I was there I did really well and won around 4k and could've won more. I took 50% of my roomate in a shorthanded 5/10 game and very first hand live reg raises CO, My roomate 3bets the BT w AQhh and they get in $1500 each on a 654hhh flop, run it once and his 66 wins when the turn pairs the board. Regardless, a fun and profitable trip.
The next few months I played primarily online on a skin on Cake Poker anywhere from 1/2 to 5/10 did pretty decent. The games were much softer than the other sites I messed around with that were open to US players. I was really starting to build confidence again in poker and life and things were going well.
Not too long after this (probably abt month ago), my good friend from High School called me and told me about a 2/5 game that was super juicy and good. It was in another part of Tennessee that was about a 3 hour drive from me but I decided to check it out and see if it was worth the drive.
.....IT WAS!
The game played like minimum 5/10 because there was literally a $10 or $25 straddle just about every other hand. Also it played super loose. There were 2-4 guys that just literally would never fold pre if they straddled. So I felt it was super +ev and did pretty well the first day I played it winning about 2k. I came back the next week it ran and had another great session. My biggest live cash session of all time actually, winning about 7k total. It felt really great and while playing in this game I was making a lot of good connections and friendships with people that could help get me into more games and just open doors for other things. Well this past Wednesday, life finally went bad.
I called my buddy and decided to come back again for the game. My plan was to play it and just drive right back home the next day. Well I did that and won about 2k. I woke up at a friend's apartment the next day around 11:30 am and was trying to decide whether to go home or not. They ran a 1/2 game that played super loose and deep too that started at 12:00 pm every Thursday. Well I decided I don't really have anything to get back for at home so I might as well play it until 4pm or so and just go home whenever I feel. A little background on this game - it has been running without any trouble from the police or other businesses close by it for over 20 years. The guys who run it are really nice and good people and for the most part do a good job of running the game. I had no fear of getting robbed or anyone there doing anything shady.
This Thursday everything was going fine. We just finished eating some delivery pizza and at around 4pm we heard someone knocking on the front door (usually everyone goes through the back entrance). The knocking gets progressively louder and everyone hears shouting and yelling. One of the people who help run the game saw that it was the police and ran into the main room where we were playing poker. Everyone starts to scramble around and it's just utter chaos. I dash to gather up my things with my first instinct to just run away and the get the fuck out of there. This all was in probably a 10 second timeframe and after this the door gets busted down. Five policemen in vests and with guns drawn burst through the door. The crazy thing about what was happening was that some of the people at the game thought we were getting robbed and not busted by the police. So a couple of these guys pull out their guns, ready to shoot. In these split seconds the guys who pull out their guns realize we're not getting robbed (illegally anyway) and put their guns away. One guy however, just throws his on the ground. It lands next to a Mexican gentlemen who doesn't speak/understand English very well. The police are yelling "GET THE F ON THE GROUND OR WE'LL BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT". Not exactly police protocol. The Mexican doesn't understand what they're saying and isn't listening. This causes the police to try to wrestle him down and cuff him. While this goes on, one of the policemen knocks over a cup of hot coffee that spills all over another guy's back who was laying under the table. When this happens the guy reaches in his lower back because it is burning. The police interprets this as he is reaching for a gun in his back pocket. So then this causes another shit storm. All in all was a really crazy experience. After things finally settled down and half the people there were cuffed, they gathered everyone around and said they were going to search the area and everyones' possessions, including everyones' vehicles outside. Well I'm thinking that this is really bad for me. I have $1600 on the table, another $2k in pocket and about $4k in my bookbag. I normally would never bring this much to a 1/2 game but I had played higher the night before which requires you to have a lot of money to play and I won a decent bit. So my initial thought was that they were only going to take what was on the table but I was wrong. They took everyting...
I wasn't arrested but they took down all my information and money (-6.6k). They then searched my car (thank god I had no weed in there), and took the remaining $60 on I had on me. While the cop was searching, I asked him if he could just leave the $60 in the car because it was the only other money I had on me. He said, "I'm sorry man, I gotta take it all". I then said, "Man listen...you guys just took almost $7k from me, can you cut me a break, I play for a living and wasn't even using all of that money for the poker game, ect". He's like, "YOU LOST HOW MUCH?!", "That's messed up man, let me see what I can do". He then goes back inside and talks with the other policemen for about 15 minutes and comes back out and says he couldn't do anything for me.
All in all a very bad experience and big hit to me. The fact that the game isn't going to be around anymore really sucks too. I've talked with some friends who know the laws and police work pretty well and none of them think there's any chance of me getting the money back ;(
Anyway, now my plan is to just grind a ton online and try and make all I lost back by the end of the month (or at least some of it). I had plans to travel to Biloxi, Mississippi and back to West Palm Beach to play WSOP circuit events and cash and now this puts them in jeapordy.
That's about all I really have to update. I've had some thoughts of trying to get back into coaching. I still feel iffy about it just because I've never done it before and there's just so many coaches out there that can't beat todays games. Since I've been playing on Cake I've been changing my SN every week so it would be a pain to look up all my old SN's to provide results but I could do it if anyone would like me to. I'm thinking my rate would be somewhere between $35-$50/hour which I think would be pretty reasonable. Maybe I could provide the first session at a discount so potential students could get an idea of what my coaching would consist of and decide if they want to work with me in the future.
I also have been playing a decent bit of PLO. I still have lots to learn and plan on getting coaching from someone in the near future when we both have free time -_-
Anyway GL to everyone and send me a PM if you're interested in the coaching. I'll probably blog soon in the future with updates on my results so look out for that.
online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball
Pulda Czech Republic. Jan 16 2012 19:28. Posts 446
That's fucking sick, heh.
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terrybunny19240 United States. Jan 16 2012 19:34. Posts 13829
fucking police probably pocketed a chunk of that imo, couldn't spare 60 bucks my ass
u should of named this blog got robbed by the police, or game got broken by police so more ppl would see the story
sux man gl on the grind.
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TimDawg United States. Jan 16 2012 19:40. Posts 10197
On January 16 2012 18:19 julep wrote:
why did you say you owned a car?
yeah i told them which car was mine and let them search it
there was nothing in there besides the $60, so I had nothing to hide. they were mandatory searching everyone's though before letting you go
online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball
That sucks a lot man, is there anyway in future you can limit the amount of $ you can get stolen by cops in car? They are mandatory searching your car BUT that money in your can if you can have it locked, say locked in a glove box, mini safe, shouldn't they require a warrant for you car and prove the money in the car is part of gambling?
There has got to be a way to legally secure your money in your car without them being able to take it.
I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time
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TimDawg United States. Jan 16 2012 23:19. Posts 10197
On January 16 2012 22:15 Highcard wrote:
That sucks a lot man, is there anyway in future you can limit the amount of $ you can get stolen by cops in car? They are mandatory searching your car BUT that money in your can if you can have it locked, say locked in a glove box, mini safe, shouldn't they require a warrant for you car and prove the money in the car is part of gambling?
There has got to be a way to legally secure your money in your car without them being able to take it.
my money was not in my car. it was in my pockets, wallet, and book bag
i could've kept the excess money in the trunk because they didn't search that but i had no idea/nor expected them to bust the game (it had been running without getting busted for 20+ years)
online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball
eeeh... I don't see the reason for them to kick in the door and go in with guns drawn, what the fuck? Also, what a waste of man hours to bust a poker game...
All this must suck so bad.
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collegesucks United States. Jan 17 2012 03:43. Posts 5780
On January 16 2012 19:33 daysare wrote:
fuck man that sucks. are homegames illegal in the US?
It varies from state to state.
"TENNESSEE
Section 39-17-501 defines "gambling" as risking anything of value for profit, based on a degree of chance. Lawful business transactions, that differentiate game-gambling from business-gambling, are excluded from this definition. A person guilty of gambling has committed a Class C misdemeanor. A person guilty of organizing, promoting, moderating gambling is guilty of a Class B misdemeanor."
Sucks shit for timdawg but apparently home games are illegal in Tennesse...
Man, u definitely had a rat in the house, still pretty scary living in a country where you can't do as you please when you aren't hurting anyone.
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TimDawg United States. Jan 17 2012 15:06. Posts 10197
On January 17 2012 13:41 locoo wrote:
Man, u definitely had a rat in the house, still pretty scary living in a country where you can't do as you please when you aren't hurting anyone.
yeah that's was what most people thought as well
turned out it wasn't that and it was something else really dumb. at least that's what most of us think but we're still gathering information every day
online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball
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handbanana21 United States. Jan 17 2012 15:51. Posts 3037
jesus man. Thats is a serious bad beat. At least u didnt get booked tho. Take it as a 7k lesson :/ ... Did you know homegames were illegal ahead of time? I know in california home games are fine as long as the house isnt charging rake.
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Critterer United Kingdom. Jan 17 2012 16:26. Posts 5337
jesus tough break dude. bet the police pocket some of that cash as well.
United States. Jan 16 2012 18:54. Posts 10197
. Don't you have to be found guilty on a trial to be stolen 7k ? --
