The Myth of Cannabis Withdrawal - Page 2

On December 20 2011 00:25 wr3ckl3sss wrote: you can point out many bad things that have been proven about weed and good things but i think its safe to say that your life now depends on weed, sure you can go few days/weeks with out it but none of the stuff you do is fun if your not high, right ? its a life style and its maybe not psychically addictive but mentally it sure is. i know people who have smoked weed for many years and most of them are fine but some of them are really weird. and two years of smoking weed is not that long of a time imo, the people i know began acting weird after about 5 years of smoking. blog again after 5-10 years or more. but getting in a argument with a weed smoker is like getting in an argument with a religious person, no one is going to give in, that means that i will not be writing on this thread again, this is my input.

first of all, you obviously don't smoke weed and probably haven't tried more than several times. The many "proven" bad things you are talking about is the propaganda from your TV that you take as truth. Once having a bad opinion of marijuana, it is safe to assume you would consider an enlightened, open-minded person a weirdo. It is also safe to assume that your life revolves around washing your teeth since you do it on a daily basis. It is also safe to assume that, having the habit of forming your opinion based on TV, you are not that smart and would make connections where there aren't any such as "X and Y are my only friends who have been smoking weed for 5 years and are totally fucked up, therefore it is the marijuana that made them fucked up." I can give you a ton of studies, documentaries, science on the subject, but being narrow-minded you would be unwilling to change either your opinion or the way you form it. Most of my friends are like you, unfortunately. I know what it's like to have a solid opinion on subjects you know NOTHING of. I have talked hours and hours and the brainwash damage is very hard to be undone. But that's exactly how you like it, right? Being an ignorant fuck thinking you know everything about everything without having done the proper research, or even a minor one. Sad.

why do weed smokers always like to brag about how safe and good weed is? it's not addictive.. yet you smoked every day for years. 'It's a happy drug'.

Please keep smoking for few more years, then write another post on how good your life is.

[B]On December 20 2011 15:25 jonafern wrote:[/ Please keep smoking for few more years, then write another post on how good your life is.

Willey Nelson says life is pretty good after all these years of pot.

On December 20 2011 15:25 jonafern wrote: why do weed smokers always like to brag about how safe and good weed is? it's not addictive.. yet you smoked every day for years. 'It's a happy drug'. Please keep smoking for few more years, then write another post on how good your life is.

because when you use a substance on a daily basis it is good to know what are the pros and cons. That's why many pot smokers have done research on marijuana. We like to brag about how safe and good weed is for a very very unbelievable, strange and weird reason - it is safe and good. WOOOOW. Does it make sense? Do you need time to assimilate it? There are things that are amazing and healthy at the same time. They are mostly natural. But it's not good for the business and that's why those in power want it banned and the media is their protege. The target are ignorant sheep like you. All they need to do is call it a "drug" and sheeple starts repeating "weed is a drug, it's bad, it makes you a zombie killer and kills your brain cells". Get a brain, it's safe and good for you .

I think it just depends on the person k2o4. You already stated that you smoke carefully and organize yourself a bit, but i would be shocked if it were this simple for the majority of people who smoke and don't have the money to afford cleaner pot/methods to smoke from

On December 21 2011 14:45 RaiNKhAN wrote: I think it just depends on the person k2o4. You already stated that you smoke carefully and organize yourself a bit, but i would be shocked if it were this simple for the majority of people who smoke and don't have the money to afford cleaner pot/methods to smoke from

It definitely depends on the person and the frequency and the environment and so on, there are lots of variables. But the studies have found that the vast majority don't face this problem - acute users almost never have any sort of symptoms from stopping use, it's insanely rare. You need to be a chronic user for a sustained period of time to have any withdrawal symptoms. So that's a small % of overall cannabis users. Of that small %, the majority have either no withdrawal symptoms or very minor forms of symptoms from the list I quoted. A small % of those chronic users end up with tough withdrawal symptoms, but even those guys are facing withdrawal symptoms which pale in comparison to something like alcohol withdrawal. So in reality, cannabis withdrawal is a very small problem in the grand scheme of things. I used the word "myth" because the anti-cannabis zealots like to act like cannabis withdrawal is a big problem, when it clearly isn't.

On December 20 2011 00:25 wr3ckl3sss wrote: you can point out many bad things that have been proven about weed and good things

Please point out the bad ones that have been proven. After reading a plethora of articles, studies and books, watching documentaries and interviews, and meeting scientists who actually do research on cannabis, I'm having a hard time finding the "bad" things which have been proven.

I'm having a blast here on the east coast and I've been 100% sober since arriving. I don't need weed to have fun, not at all. Actually, those of us who use on a daily basis but don't have addictive personalities / bio-checmical predispositions actually prefer to balance out our sober and high time. I don't enjoy being high 24/7. Just like I don't enjoy playing SC2 24/7. Balance is essential and just cause I use daily doesn't mean I don't understand that. I apply the principle of balance to all parts of my life (of course I don't always succeed, but I strive for it), and that includes my cannabis use.

On December 20 2011 01:45 Fudyann wrote: Nice writeup, but sample size too small to reject the nul hypothesis.

Of course, which is why I state that I am just one person and I also have several variables, like my physical health, which probably contribute to the lack of withdrawal symptoms. But I'm just one story of many similar ones, which the studies have backed up. Go check the numbers - the bottom line is that I'm in the majority, not the minority, when it comes to cannabis withdrawal.

On December 19 2011 23:53 hoylemj wrote: I don't know anything about smoking cig. or cannabis and each ones link to cancer, but I've heard that smoking does more damage to your heart than your lungs.

Because of the way it effects the arteries - cannabis actually promotes blood circulation (hence the red eyes)

On December 19 2011 20:47 PplusAD wrote: I had lots of withdrawl symptoms and it took me about 2 years before i stopped dreaming about smoking cannabis 2-3 times a week at night ... but allthough cannabis was my main "drug" that i used daily i did lots of other drugs occasionally which might have been big part in my withdrawl symptoms when i stopped doing drugs completely.

Yeah these are some serious confounds. I'm a single drug user (the occasional alcohol and cigarette, and if I could I'd love some hallucinogens), so I don't have to deal with those other variables.

On December 19 2011 20:46 traxamillion wrote: it is not physically addictive. quitting weed is nothing, try quitting painkillers after your doctors have you on strong opiate narcotics

Yeah, that's another great point - we have to remember the contrast. The legal drugs they prescribe us cause serious withdrawal symptoms, while even the rare person who experiences all of the symptoms listed above doesn't even come close to that suffering.

On December 19 2011 18:37 Venrae wrote: are you sMi.NewB?

yes ^^

I quit smoking weed about 3 years ago, and it was the easiest thing to quit in my entire life. It's complete bullshit when people say things like "I'm addicted to marijuana" because you'll ask them "what kind of withdrawals are you having" and they'll be like "idk i can't sleep because i really wanna smoke" and that makes me want to fucking punch someone.

Like, seriously, if you're not having physical withdrawals you're not addicted. You're just being a whiny little bitch with no willpower. Same applies to cigarettes, yeah, I get cravings, but I don't get any physical withdrawals so I just man the fuck up and stick with my decision to stop smoking. It's different if you're like, puking up blood because your body needs heroin...