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Baalim Mexico. Sep 02 2011 19:10. Posts 34250 | | |
Well lately there has been a lot of new leaks, some unintentionally leaked by wikileaks and others by anon constant hackings.
So here are a few (ill try to post sources)
* Family of 10 in iraq is handcuffed, forced to kneel and executed, women and children included, the youngest one being 6 months old
* UN Peacekeepers were exchanging food for sex to underaged african girls
* Berlusconi (italys prime minister) is secretly recording vowing to leaving italy, and as he describes it, "this shitty country that sickens me" - source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/01/berlusconi-vows-leave-shitty-italy
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Ill keep posting leaks here, you should really follow the Anon tweeter acounts, its INSANE the things you dont hear on the mainstream media, and you have no idea how active anon truly is around the globe. |
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palak United States. Sep 02 2011 19:15. Posts 4601 | | |
cross from libya thread
| | On September 01 2011 13:47 Baalim wrote:
i dont feel like opening a new thread since its all the same bullshit but for some of you who dont know, Wikileaks actuall unintentionally revealed more cables and so far.
- American soldiers lined up an civilian iraqi family, made them kneel down and shot them in the head
- American soldiers lined up 10 civilians, handcuffed and shot them in the head, included children and women
- UN "peacekeeprs" in africa were trading food for sex with underaged african girls.
This is the world we live in, this is the what the government and war produce.
one source cuz im not going to bother to copy paste the other links, its just not worth it, coward and willingly ignorant people will keep believing no matter what, no amount of blood shed will make them question themselves.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/311006 |
That's completely disgusting. Glad it got leaked, wish ppl would face charges.
This however is a completely idiotic move by wikileaks.
| | WikiLeaks has released its full catalog of 251,000 unredacted U.S. diplomatic cables, exposing the names of sources and potentially placing those individuals in harm’s way.
The organization’s five former publishing partners, the U.K.'s the Guardian, Germany's Der Spiegel, France's Le Monde, Spain's El Pais, and the New York Times have released a joint statement condemning WikiLeaks’s move.
“We deplore the decision of WikiLeaks to publish the unredacted State Department cables, which may put sources at risk,” it reads. “Our previous dealings with WikiLeaks were on the clear basis that we would only publish cables which had been subjected to a thorough editing and clearance process. We will continue to defend our collaborative publishing endeavor."
In the past, these media organizations would cull through documents and publish files deemed newsworthy in small pieces. The names of sources, some of which had communicated confidentially with U.S. diplomats, were omitted as their identities had been labeled “strictly protect” in the files. The Guardian says more than 1,000 of the documents exposed on Friday had been given this designation, and at least 150 whistleblowers are named specifically. |
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392345,00.asp
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Baalim Mexico. Sep 02 2011 19:17. Posts 34250 | | |
It was definitely unintentional, apparently some guy made a password public containing way more information than he thought it had. |
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Baalim Mexico. Sep 02 2011 19:19. Posts 34250 | | |
They probably wont face any charges while Bradley Manning who is a fucking hero rots in jail while Obama breaks his promise of protecting whistle blowers.
On the upside apparently the news about the executed family is bringing US - Iraq negotiations to a stop forcing the US troops to leave earlier, maybe 2011:
http://thinkprogress.org/security/201.../wikileaks-us-iraq-talks-troops-2011/ |
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palak United States. Sep 02 2011 19:21. Posts 4601 | | |
Since my posts are just news articles they r spoilered + Show Spoiler +
| | The cable, written in January, 2010 focuses on the behavior of Beninese peacekeepers stationed in the war-torn western town of Toulepleu.
A random poll of 10 underage girls by aid group Save The Children UK in 2009 found that eight performed sexual acts on a regular basis in exchange for their most basic needs.
A UN peacekeeper tank passes a street in Haiti. Sexual misconduct by UN troops has been reported in a number of countries including Congo, Cambodia and Haiti ¿ as well as in an earlier incident involving Moroccan peacekeepers in Ivory Coast
Parents were encouraging their daughters to sleep with the peacekeepers so they would provide for them, according to the cable.
'Eight of the 10 said they had ongoing sexual relationships with Beninese soldiers in exchange for food or lodging,' the diplomat wrote.
Earlier this week, U.N. spokesman Michel Bonnardeaux confirmed 16 Beninese peacekeepers are now barred from serving with them following a year-long probe.
Of the 16 soldiers involved, 10 were commanders.They 'failed to maintain an environment that prevents sexual exploitation and abuse,' he said.
Sexual misconduct by UN troops has been reported in a number of countries including Congo, Cambodia and Haiti – as well as in an earlier incident involving Moroccan peacekeepers in Ivory Coast.
Bonnardeaux said that 42 allegations of sexual abuse by UN staff in Ivory Coast have been reported since 2007. Sixteen involved minors. None have been reported yet this year, according to UN records
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic...ood-underage-girls.html#ixzz1Wq9AaquS
| | The Iraqi government is to launch a new investigation into one of the most controversial incidents of the Iraq war, after the release of a diplomatic cable alleging that US soldiers handcuffed and executed women and children during a 2006 raid.
The troops were also accused of calling in an air strike to destroy evidence.
An adviser to the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, said on Friday that previous inquiries had stalled but the government would revive its investigation as a result of the new information.
In 2006 there were conflicting accounts of what had happened at Ishaqi village, north of Baghdad; troops said nothing inappropriate had taken place, but villagers suggested the deaths had been a revenge attack for the earlier killing of two soldiers.
A diplomatic cable released this week by WikiLeaks revealed that a United Nations official, Philip Alston, told the US in 2006 he had received information that all the residents of the house had been shot in the head. His intervention was not made public at the time.
The letter has inflamed opinion in Iraq at a sensitive time in US-Iraq relations, amid difficult negotiations over retention of US bases in Iraq after the scheduled departure of US troops in December.
Iraqi officials said the new information was sufficient cause to deny the Americans any bases and demand all troops leave.
"The new report about this crime will have its impact on signing any new agreement," an Iraqi parliamentarian, Aliya Nusayif, told the AP. She said Iraq's parliament would investigate and seek to prosecute any US soldiers who commit crimes in Iraq in the future.
As part of the negotiations over keeping US troops in Iraq, Washington is demanding immunity for all US military personnel. But Maliki's spokesman, Ali al-Moussawi, said: "We will not give up the rights of the Iraqi people, and this subject will be followed."..."According to the information received, American troops approached Mr Faiz's home in the early hours of 15 March 2006. It would appear that when the MNF [multinational forces] approached the house, shots were fired from it and a confrontation ensued for some 25 minutes. The MNF troops entered the house, handcuffed all residents and executed all of them. After the initial MNF intervention, a US air raid ensued that destroyed the house," Alston wrote. He added: "Iraqi TV stations broadcast from the scene and showed bodies of the victims (ie five children and four women) in the morgue of Tikrit. Autopsies carried out at the Tikrit hospital's morgue revealed that all corpses were shot in the head and handcuffed." |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/02/wikileaks-iraq-massacre-inquiry
| | BAGHDAD — Iraq’s government will reopen an investigation into a 2006 raid in which U.S. forces killed at least 11 Iraqi civilians, including women and children, a spokesman for Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Friday.
The new probe comes after documents surfaced in a WikiLeaks cache that raise fresh doubts about the Pentagon’s version of events, which cleared the U.S. military of any wrongdoing.Iraqis in the town of Ishaqi have long claimed that U.S. military forces executed at least 11 people there — including five women and children — and then hid the crime by directing an airstrike to the area, about 60 miles north of Baghdad.
A Pentagon spokesman dismissed the new claims on Friday and said that from the viewpoint of the U.S. military, nothing has changed.
“Basically there’s nothing new we haven’t looked into already,” said Lt. Col. Jim Gregory. “Our position remains the same.”
In the document revealed this week by WikiLeaks, a U.N. inspector named Philip Alston appears to support the Iraqi claims. He describes how U.S. forces approached a house in the early morning hours of March 15, 2006 and found a family inside, then “handcuffed all the residents and executed them.”
Among the dead were a 28-year-old Iraqi man, Faiz Harrat Al-Majma’ee, and his extended family, including five children under the age of 5, the U.N. report said. Autopsies done later in the hospital in Tikrit showed that “all the corpses were shot in the head and handcuffed,” Alston noted.
U.S. coalition spokesmen said at the time that there was no wrongdoing and that the commander “properly followed the rules of engagement as he necessarily escalated the use of force until the threat was eliminated.” Allegations that a family was executed were described as “absolutely false.” |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/iraq-to-reopen-probe-of-deadly-ishaqi-raid/2011/09/02/gIQAT0hSwJ_story.html
| | WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange late last year told associates his website's entire cache of U.S. diplomatic cables "must somehow" be released, according to a written record of the discussion.The record -- notes of a meeting -- describes an intense conversation between Assange and other WikiLeaks activists in November at Ellingham Hall, a mansion in eastern England where he has resided since British courts released him on bail pending a decision on a Swedish extradition request for his questioning about sexual misconduct allegations.
According to the notes, examined by Reuters, the substance of the meeting was a "heated conversation about rough plans on releasing cables." The debate's details were first reported on Friday on the website of Britain's Guardian newspaper by James Ball, a former WikiLeaks staffer who attended the meeting and who now works for the Guardian.Evidence of the discussions surfaced as WikiLeaks announced that it was releasing its entire database of "251,287 US embassy cables in searchable format." People who examined the database said its contents are unredacted.
The topic under discussion at Ellingham Hall was a plan under which WikiLeaks would give mainstream media organizations access to the cable cache in return for their agreement to redact sensitive information from the documents before publication. Last year, human rights groups criticized WikiLeaks for releasing raw U.S. military documents whose contents could have jeopardized the safety of civilians.
According to the notes, a Scandinavian activist said: "You do realize the idea of not putting ALL of these cables up is totally unacceptable to people around this table, don't you?" This set off "another shouting match." According to the notes, Assange was "insistent all cables must somehow be eventually released."
Assange did not respond to an email requesting comment which was sent to him via the owner of the mansion.
The notes do not allege that Assange or others were insisting that the full document cache be released uncensored. In a book on WikiLeaks published earlier this year, two Guardian journalists, David Leigh and Luke Harding, wrote that when he started talking about releasing classified U.S. government documents, Assange expressed reluctance to redact the material, but was persuaded to do so by mainstream reporters. |
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/207961/20110902/wikileaks-assange-wanteds-cables-released-months-ago.htm |
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palak United States. Sep 02 2011 19:36. Posts 4601 | | |
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| | On September 02 2011 18:19 Baalim wrote:
They probably wont face any charges while Bradley Manning who is a fucking hero rots in jail while Obama breaks his promise of protecting whistle blowers.
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The Bradley Manning situation is disgusting. He deserves a trial and w/ any luck would get off on charges like Ellsberg did. | | Due to the gross governmental misconduct and illegal evidence gathering, and the defense by Leonard Boudin and Harvard Law School professor Charles Nesson, Judge Byrne dismissed all charges against Ellsberg and Russo on May 11, 1973 after the government claimed it had lost records of wiretapping against Ellsberg. Byrne ruled: "The totality of the circumstances of this case which I have only briefly sketched offend a sense of justice. The bizarre events have incurably infected the prosecution of this case." 22] |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ellsberg#Trial_and_mistrial
We were already planning to leave by the end of 2011 unless the Iraq gov't requested we stay. Thing this cable does mostly is just guarantee that the Iraqi gov't won't be requesting the troops to stay. Now with any luck congress and the pres actually stick to their timetable. I wouldn't suggest anyone hold their breath about that happening.
| | WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration is evaluating whether to keep troops in Iraq beyond the planned withdrawal date, a decision that would extend an unpopular war that the American public expected to end this year.
The Status of Forces Agreement signed by Iraq and the United States during the Bush administration says all U.S. troops must leave Iraq by Dec. 31, 2011. But the contract also leaves the door open to further negotiations that would delay withdrawal.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates has said members of the Iraqi government have indicated they are "very open to a continuing presence" by the United States.
"And so the [Iraqi] politicians, I think, the leaders understand the need for this kind of help, but no one wants to be the first one there supporting it," added Gates, acknowledging such a decision will face resistance in Iraq (not to mention in the United States, where just 33 percent of the public now supports the war).
Pentagon spokesperson Elizabeth Robbins confirmed to The Huffington Post that U.S. forces could stay beyond 2011 to help the Iraqi Security Forces fill the "gaps" in their operations. |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/11/iraq-withdrawal-2011-delay_n_860188.html
| | Tens of thousands of Iraqis have taken to the streets of the capital Baghdad to protest the presence of US troops in the war-torn country.
Shouting anti-US slogans and calling for unity among Shias and Sunnis in Iraq, the Iraqi demonstrators on Saturday urged the “immediate withdrawal of US troops” from the war-wrecked country, a Press TV correspondent reported.
The protest came after US Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Thursday that the United States would maintain troops in Iraq beyond the agreed 2011 final withdrawal date if Iraq's government asked for extra help.
Prominent Iraqi Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr requested on Saturday that his supporters resume their resistance against American troops if the forces do not leave the Middle Eastern country by the end of the year.
"If the Americans don't leave Iraq on time, we will increase the resistance and restart the activities of the Mahdi Army," Sadr said in a statement read by a spokesman to thousands of Iraqi demonstrators in Baghdad on the same day.
Iraqi government spokesman Ali Al-Dabbagh also said on Friday that Baghdad does not want the United States to keep its troops in the war-torn country beyond 2011. |
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/173838.html
Odd the first one was dated May 11th, the second is April 9th, but I'm not gonna bother finding earlier sources to make the chronology match up
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palak United States. Sep 02 2011 19:39. Posts 4601 | | |
The leaking of the data without the whistle blowers names redacted is really fucking bad. |
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whamm! Albania. Sep 02 2011 19:39. Posts 11625 | | |
cliffs? Baal and Palak tag-teaming a thread is too much to read for a guy like me |
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Baalim Mexico. Sep 02 2011 19:49. Posts 34250 | | |
you sound like a politician more and more to me palak "oh i hope Bradley Manning get a trial... bad situation", WTF, acknowledge that your president is knowingly keeping prisoner a hero whistle blower, this is fucking awful and people's head should roll for it, not just say "oh... i hope it is resolved soon".
whamm, cliffnotes is on OP |
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whamm! Albania. Sep 02 2011 20:43. Posts 11625 | | |
I used to think wikileaks was doing more harm than good. But now that governments are really getting out of control and everything is just turning to complete shit, I think this thing must exist to at least have some form of truth out there. Honestly people who are in those leaks should start explaining their actions instead of simply just going after the guys responsible for exposing them.
Also +1 to 911 conspiracy theories, I can't believe how a lot of smart people simply dismiss it to be BS. |
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Baalim Mexico. Sep 02 2011 20:46. Posts 34250 | | |
Why would strongly immoral people suddenly be moral?, they will obviously prosecute the ones who are exposing them with all their force. |
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palak United States. Sep 02 2011 21:27. Posts 4601 | | |
| | On September 02 2011 18:49 Baalim wrote:
you sound like a politician more and more to me palak "oh i hope Bradley Manning get a trial... bad situation", WTF, acknowledge that your president is knowingly keeping prisoner a hero whistle blower, this is fucking awful and people's head should roll for it, not just say "oh... i hope it is resolved soon".
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By contract he signed with the army he committed espionage which is punishable by death. But everyone deserves a trial and due to the content of some of his leaks he deserves to get a presidential pardon.
Edit: @whamm...ppl dismiss 9/11 conspiracy theories as bs because they r total and complete bs |
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 02 2011 22:29. Posts 13047 | | |
Kewl thread.
I like update news stuff like this since it gets to the point and saves me the time of reading something that might be boring.
Hopefully people will keep posting assorted news and updates they hear/read about, that way this turns into a Twitter type thread full of updates.
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As an ex US soldier I find the handcuffing and executing thing completely ridiculous..? I have never met a company commander that would allow that to happen. Bizarre. |
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palak United States. Sep 03 2011 01:52. Posts 4601 | | |
US was keen on preserving India Pakistan truce.
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| | NEW DELHI: Terming the ceasefire between India and Pakistan in Held Jammu & Kashmir as an important achievement, classified United States documents released by Wikileaks revealed that Washington was keen on ‘preserving’ the truce, The Economic Times reported on Friday.
In a 2005 cable to US State Department under the heading ‘preserving the LoC ceasefire’, then Ambassador to India David C Mulford urged Bush Administration to issue a statement to support the truce announced by New Delhi & Islamabad on November 24, 2003.
“We urge the Department to issue a firm statement supporting the ceasefire; reiterating our unequivocal opposition to cross-border terrorist infiltration; condemning the recent shelling and reaffirming our support for the Composite Dialogue process,” Mulford said in the cable sent in January 2005. The cable is one of 138,887 released by Wikileaks on August 30.
“The LoC ceasefire is one of the most important achievements in the slow but steady Indo-Pak rapproachment process that began in mid-2003 with former PM Vajpayee’s ‘Hand of Friendship’ speech, but without US engagement that accomplishment could soon founder,” Mulford reported.
He appreciated response of New Delhi & Islamabad in the aftermath of two ceasefire violations in three days in January 2005 terming it as “measured” and “serious”.
“Despite shelling of Indian side of LoC twice in three days (January 18 & 20), both governments have responded in a measured and serious manner, conscious that 14 months of silence along the LOC has come to symbolize de-escalation of Indo- Pak conflict, while providing tens of thousands of Kashmiris the longest respite from daily shelling since the 1999 Kargil War,” he added.
“The ceasefire… has fuelled hopes for broader progress in military CBMs. These instances of shelling, if they do not stop, could spill over into Composite Dialogue and negatively affect broad sense of goodwill that exists in India for fixing relations with Pakistan,” Mulford said. |
http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/02/us-was...g-india-pakistan-truce-wikileaks.html
WikiLeaks: India, Pakistan reached 'back channel' deal on Kashmir
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| | NEW DELHI: India and Pakistan had through "back channels" agreed to a non-territorial solution to Kashmir under Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and then Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, reveals a latest WikiLeaks cable. According to the US embassy cable - dated April 21, 2009 - Singh confirmed this to a visiting US delegation, led by then House Foreign Affairs Committee chairman Howard Berman in April, 2009, saying that the solution included free trade and movement across LoC.
Singh told the US delegation that Delhi and Islamabad had made great progress prior to February 2007, when President Musharraf ran into trouble. "We had reached an understanding in back channels," he related, says the cable, in which Musharraf had agreed to a non-territorial solution to Kashmir. Singh went on to add that India wanted a strong, stable, peaceful, democratic Pakistan and makes no claim on "even an inch" of Pakistani territory.
Singh's comments authenticate Musharraf's assertions last year that India and Pakistan had reached that stage, where they were preparing the final draft for the resolution. He had said the two sides shared drafts through "back channels", and these were in keeping with the four-point template which he had envisaged to resolve the issue. Singh, too, mentions in the cable that the two sides had arrived at the solution through back channels.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/in...eal-WikiLeaks/articleshow/9841701.cms
WikiLeaks: MPAA behind Aussie ISP lawsuit
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| | As a crucial Australian copyright lawsuit goes to its High Court for consideration, a new WikiLeaks cable from the US State Department suggests that the force behind the action is anything but local. On the surface, it appears that the suit against iiNet—on the grounds that the country's third biggest ISP hasn't done enough to crack down on illegal file sharers—is an Australian content initiative. But according to the cable, the prime mover behind the suit is actually the Motion Picture Association of America, through the Motion Picture Association, its international arm.
The MPA, "does not want that fact to be broadcasted," the 2008 communiqué from then Ambassador Robert D. McCallum Jr. explained. "MPAA prefers that its leading role not be made public," the summary of the case added, to dodge the impression that it is "just Hollywood 'bullying some poor little Australian ISP'."
This revelation, along with earlier leaks, once again raises a disturbing question. How far are the US State Department and US-based content industries intruding into the IP affairs of other countries—particularly members of The Commonwealth?
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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/ne...isp-lawsuit-but-dont-tell-anybody.ars
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| | On September 02 2011 19:43 whamm! wrote:
I used to think wikileaks was doing more harm than good. But now that governments are really getting out of control and everything is just turning to complete shit, I think this thing must exist to at least have some form of truth out there. Honestly people who are in those leaks should start explaining their actions instead of simply just going after the guys responsible for exposing them.
Also +1 to 911 conspiracy theories, I can't believe how a lot of smart people simply dismiss it to be BS. |
Wikileaks are there for a reason. As usual, CIA created a controlled opposition for several reasons. First of all, to get people's attention away from 9/11. That's why Assange is like "9/11 truthers annoy me". This doesn't mean the documents they declassify are fake. They aren't, but they aren't the most important thing to be discussed. Secondly, having the central document-declassifying opposition, they can get to whisleblowers who are ready to speak the truth to Wikileaks without knowing what is their role. I personally believe that there is a chance some big event happens this 9/11 to enhance the fear in the public and stir attention away from 9/11/01. Maybe New York, I dunno. But some strange things are going on lately and seems like agencies are preparing for a humongous disaster. All kinds of exersices going on and we all know( actually a few) that they come true somehow ( 7/7, 9/11, Madrid). The thing is that the powers that be have already shot enough bullets. They know they can't fool the public forever and just attack country after country. Money is low too. Obama's ratings are plunging. Just like Bush's were before 9/11. They need something very very big to start a major conflict either in Israel, USA or the Middle East. Probably with the cost of many lives. And to make things worse, the major fault lines on the East and West Coast of USA are going wild and I expect a big earthquake soon. Shit is scary in the USA today. |
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Zep United States. Sep 03 2011 05:28. Posts 2292 | | |
| | On September 03 2011 02:45 D_smart_S wrote:
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On September 02 2011 19:43 whamm! wrote:
I used to think wikileaks was doing more harm than good. But now that governments are really getting out of control and everything is just turning to complete shit, I think this thing must exist to at least have some form of truth out there. Honestly people who are in those leaks should start explaining their actions instead of simply just going after the guys responsible for exposing them.
Also +1 to 911 conspiracy theories, I can't believe how a lot of smart people simply dismiss it to be BS. |
Wikileaks are there for a reason. As usual, CIA created a controlled opposition for several reasons. First of all, to get people's attention away from 9/11. That's why Assange is like "9/11 truthers annoy me". This doesn't mean the documents they declassify are fake. They aren't, but they aren't the most important thing to be discussed. Secondly, having the central document-declassifying opposition, they can get to whisleblowers who are ready to speak the truth to Wikileaks without knowing what is their role. I personally believe that there is a chance some big event happens this 9/11 to enhance the fear in the public and stir attention away from 9/11/01. Maybe New York, I dunno. But some strange things are going on lately and seems like agencies are preparing for a humongous disaster. All kinds of exersices going on and we all know( actually a few) that they come true somehow ( 7/7, 9/11, Madrid). The thing is that the powers that be have already shot enough bullets. They know they can't fool the public forever and just attack country after country. Money is low too. Obama's ratings are plunging. Just like Bush's were before 9/11. They need something very very big to start a major conflict either in Israel, USA or the Middle East. Probably with the cost of many lives. And to make things worse, the major fault lines on the East and West Coast of USA are going wild and I expect a big earthquake soon. Shit is scary in the USA today.
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D_smart_S Bulgaria. Sep 03 2011 05:52. Posts 688 | | |
ROFL nice one! :D White pupils wtf |
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palak United States. Sep 03 2011 11:11. Posts 4601 | | |
assange on 9/11
| | "I believe in facts about conspiracies,” he says, choosing his words slowly. “Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It’s important not to confuse these two. Generally, when there’s enough facts about a conspiracy we simply call this news.” What about 9/11? “I’m constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.” |
http://www.infowars.com/wikileaks-fou...lian-assange-is-annoyed-by-911-truth/
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| | It is estimated that around 500,000 earthquakes occur each year, detectable with current instrumentation. About 100,000 of these can be felt.[28][29] Minor earthquakes occur nearly constantly around the world in places like California and Alaska in the U.S., as well as in Guatemala, Chile, Peru, Indonesia, Iran, Pakistan, the Azores in Portugal, Turkey, New Zealand, Greece, Italy, and Japan, but earthquakes can occur almost anywhere, including New York City, London, and Australia.[30] Larger earthquakes occur less frequently, the relationship being exponential; for example, roughly ten times as many earthquakes larger than magnitude 4 occur in a particular time period than earthquakes larger than magnitude 5. In the (low seismicity) United Kingdom, for example, it has been calculated that the average recurrences are: an earthquake of 3.7–4.6 every year, an earthquake of 4.7–5.5 every 10 years, and an earthquake of 5.6 or larger every 100 years.[31] This is an example of the Gutenberg-Richter law.
The Messina earthquake and tsunami took as many as 200,000 lives on December 28, 1908 in Sicily and Calabria.[32]
The number of seismic stations has increased from about 350 in 1931 to many thousands today. As a result, many more earthquakes are reported than in the past, but this is because of the vast improvement in instrumentation, rather than an increase in the number of earthquakes. The United States Geological Survey estimates that, since 1900, there have been an average of 18 major earthquakes (magnitude 7.0–7.9) and one great earthquake (magnitude 8.0 or greater) per year, and that this average has been relatively stable.[33] In recent years, the number of major earthquakes per year has decreased, though this is probably a statistical fluctuation rather than a systematic trend. More detailed statistics on the size and frequency of earthquakes is available from the United States Geological Survey (USGS).[34] Alternatively, some scientists suggest that the recent increase in major earthquakes could be explained by a cyclical pattern of periods of intense tectonic activity, interspersed with longer periods of low-intensity. However, accurate recordings of earthquakes only began in the early 1900s, so it is too early to categorically state that this is the case.[35] |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake#Size_and_frequency_of_occurrence just b/c i find it interesting.
Besides the earth quake the rest is just complete conspiracy none sense. I love that conspiracy theorists have such a strong tendency (from my exp, i'm to lazy to find sources for it) to decide that anyone working against them is just another cia operative.
more wikileaks
Nawaz believed 26/11 attackers were Pakistani: WikiLeaks
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| | According to a cable leaked by WikiLeaks, a US official claimed that one of the terrorists spoke in a Pakistani accent.
The cable (181951: confidential) sent by Acting Principal Officer Clinton Taylor of the U.S. Consulate in Lahore on December 9, 2008, describes how the Pakistan Muslim League (N) leader told a visiting delegation of US Senators John McCain and Lindsay Graham that he had listened to the phone call made by one of the attackers to an Indian TV channel, and even though the individual claimed he was Indian, he had heard a Pakistani accent.
Although, Nawaz Sharif later refused claims that the terrorists were from Pakistan, at the December 6 meeting, he showed no signs of being in doubt of their Pakistani origins.
"The people involved were from this country - I am convinced," Mr. Sharif is quoted as saying. "We must take strictest action against those elements." Once India produced concrete evidence, "we should proceed whole hog," he declared.
Nawaz Sharif was perhaps trying to stay in the good books of US and in doing so securing his prospects as a future leader of the country. |
http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail....az-said-26/11-attackers-were-from-Pak
Revelations: Wikileaks and Armenia
Honestly boring and long so i'm jsut gonna link to it instead of posting parts in spoilers.
http://www.ianyanmag.com/2011/09/03/revelations-wikileaks-and-armenia/
WIKILEAKS EXPOSÉ: Bangladesh
Jamaat looks 'further than polls'
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| | Bent on making Bangladesh a 'genuinely' Islamic state, Jamaat-e-Islami unruffled despite last election debacle and its top leaders being tried for war crimes, the US embassy in Dhaka said.
Chargé d'affaires Nicholas Dean sent the classified diplomatic cable titled—Jamaat-e-Islami: The tortoise not the hare--to Washington on Jan 3, 2010.
Julian Assange's whistle-blower WikiLeaks published the cable along with nearly 150,000 new cables on Aug 30.
The report was based on the discussions with several top-ranking leaders who allegedly opposed Bangladesh's war of independence of Pakistan and the 'Majlish-e-Shura' meeting.
The cable said, "Jamaat's leaders clearly hope that slow and steady wins the race.
"Jamaat-e-Islami Assistant Secretary General Abdur Razzaq told us Jamaat is not concerned with short-term gains like winning the next national election or increasing the number of seats in the national parliament.
"Rather, Jamaat's true aim is to make Bangladesh a genuinely Islamic country," the cabkle added.
Bangladesh's largest religious party won only three seats in the 2008 general elections and five of its leaders including chief Matiur Rahman Nizami and sectretary-general Ali Ahsan Mohammed Mojaheed were arrested in the middle of 2010 on charges of committing crimes against humanity in the 1971 freedom struggle.
Abdul Quader Mollah, the party's assistant secretary general now behind bars, claimed "what differentiated Jamaat from the other two major political parties was that Jamaat had an ideology and the other parties did not.
"According to Jamaat leaders, the Awami League and Bangladesh Nationalist Party formed positions that varied election-by-election depending on what they think would garner votes, while Jamaat focused on its end goal."
Mollah told the American officials an Islamic state was "the only thing that could solve the problems of Bangladesh.
"He said he was not worried about electoral losses or parliamentary intrigue."
Mollah also claimed that Jamaat "had no ties with and received no money, official or unofficial, from the Jamaat-e-Islami parties of other countries".
However, Dean commented, Mollah was "well-versed on Pakistan's Jamaat-e-Islami and claimed its former leader, Maulana Fazur Rehman, as a friend".
Jamaat-e-Islami was founded by Syed Abul A'laa Maududi in 1941 in British India. It was against the creation of Pakistan but after the Partition of India, Maududi went to Pakistan.
He was sentenced to death by hanging in Pakistan for inciting killings of Ahmadiyya community, but he somehow survived. |
http://bdnews24.com/details.php?id=204972&cid=43
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