FTP Durrrr Million Dollar Challenge - Page 5

do you think tom fold AA on the river?

so we both agree tom isnt folding any of is vbet hand here
marcello think tom is folding an overpair here...
about the board development...hmm i dont know
i agree with you when oyu said the 8 is at least as likely to be in Marcello's range as in Tom's..
but i mean... yeah i think you are right
i dont know im lost..im going to the gym
lol
one last thing... so do you think marcello's shove is good or its bad?
do you think hes doing the same on A K Q J T river?

just watched the whole thing, dam some pretty loose defends from both players, 75o to a 3bet...82s to a 4bet.

Dwan is never folding over 90% of his vbets here, when Marcello shoves over instantly on that river you must hate even your AA, but he would just roll eyes up and say in that annoying tone of his "iiiii caaaaaaaaaaall..."

The fact that Marcello comments that Durrr cannot call with an overpair there makes it way way way less impressive, Dwan might fold the very bottom of his valuerange there only.

Boring show

On February 26 2010 06:58 RaSZi wrote: if durrr calls with KK he has to call with AJ.

what

i really think with how dwan plays that he would always shove the river with any of his vbetting range.

his bet on the river is so much more likely to be a bluff imo

On February 26 2010 15:01 CrownRoyal wrote: i really think with how dwan plays that he would always shove the river with any of his vbetting range. his bet on the river is so much more likely to be a bluff imo

it is meaningless since luckexpress already decided to bluff, he even said dwan bet more than what he expected

On February 26 2010 06:58 RaSZi wrote: if durrr calls with KK he has to call with AJ.

This is absolutely absurd, the equity of KK and AJ there is not the same, given the little money behind luckexpress might have valueshoved with worse than KK, its not always AA+ or air.

why would he value shove TT JJ?

On February 26 2010 15:01 CrownRoyal wrote: i really think with how dwan plays that he would always shove the river with any of his vbetting range. his bet on the river is so much more likely to be a bluff imo

This.

I liked Marcellus´ game, A+, really. Durrrr looked pretty tired though.

On February 26 2010 08:36 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: Show nested quote + On February 26 2010 06:58 RaSZi wrote: if durrr calls with KK he has to call with AJ. what

It would be very unlikely for marcello to shove over the top here with worse than KK. Therefore KK and AJ are both have the same value

On February 26 2010 16:52 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On February 26 2010 06:58 RaSZi wrote: if durrr calls with KK he has to call with AJ. This is absolutely absurd, the equity of KK and AJ there is not the same, given the little money behind luckexpress might have valueshoved with worse than KK, its not always AA+ or air.

Well considering marcello said "you have to fold AA" i dont think he'd ever be valueshoving worse than AA.

what if hes bluffing w/ pair =o

On February 27 2010 01:16 RaSZi wrote: Show nested quote + On February 26 2010 16:52 Baal wrote:   On February 26 2010 06:58 RaSZi wrote: if durrr calls with KK he has to call with AJ. This is absolutely absurd, the equity of KK and AJ there is not the same, given the little money behind luckexpress might have valueshoved with worse than KK, its not always AA+ or air. What is he ever valueshoving, that is worse than KK. You either beat a bluff with KK or he is shoving better. He is never ever valueshoving worse. Seems pretty obvious to me.

If he were value shoving 100k more then this would make sense, but given the little ammount left he could be valueshoving worse often, for example like if he has 5k left, he would move all-in with almost 100% of his calling range.

If he spazzes out with a higher ace or decides to turn a pair into a bluff etc, the equity with KK and AJ is not the same at all, Durrr would sigh and call with KK and probably fold AJ there.

New ep: they switch to PLO halfway through

Ep7 v ziiggy up: http://www.thepokerbay.org/details.php?id=3343

pretty cool with galfond commentating

On March 17 2010 13:21 Balzamon wrote: pretty cool with galfond commentating

yeah his commentary is really good, pretty much the best you could hope for

Yeah I thought Galfond was really good. One of the best commentators I've heard. It was really awesome to watch PLO on tv too, needs to be moar.