Hallucinating - Page 3

one more thing, I have taken many kinds of drugs, and on those I have never seen anything that wasn't there. A distorted view of things for sure, confusing sensory input oh yea, things moving in strange ways, but outright psychedelic imagery, no. But, from not sleeping for a couple of days, I ran off the road to avoid a train heading straight for me (woke up in a ditch, no train tracks to be found anywhere).

shrooms are an experience eat an 8th experience ego loss.

lsd leaves your body faster than any drug actually which is why it cannot be tested for. All of that shit about it staying in your spine/body for years is pure bullshit.

DMT supposed to be the best trip never done it. brain produces it natural during sleep

The thing is, you dont understand how drugs work.

You think you will just stay in your normal consciousness while you see weird visuals etc, it doesnt work that way, it works kind of like a dream, its really hard to realize you are dreaming so you cant just chill and be an spectator, you are in there and not knowing you are tripping.

All your brain works in a different way so your consciousness is modified its not that you see a pink unicorn, rather than how you think and feel everything so different, and for having actual visual hallucinations you need strong dosages of strong drugs that you are not ready to handle, you are unexperienced and afraid of drugs and i that is a guaranteed freak out.

On June 29 2009 10:32 curtinsea wrote: Intelligent people stay away from this stuff. It's not a productive endeavor by any means. Do you really want to give up control of your very mind if even for a brief moment?

What a retarded thing to say... why in the fuck no?

Altering how your mind works can make you realize so many things that normally slip your mind or dont even think about them, thats why it was some kind of nirvana in the 60s, a strong hallucinogen trip can be extremely enlightening.

On June 29 2009 18:37 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2009 10:32 curtinsea wrote: Intelligent people stay away from this stuff. It's not a productive endeavor by any means. Do you really want to give up control of your very mind if even for a brief moment? What a retarded thing to say... why in the fuck no? Altering how your mind works can make you realize so many things that normally slip your mind or dont even think about them, thats why it was some kind of nirvana in the 60s, a strong hallucinogen trip can be extremely enlightening.

yeah that came out wrong. I wasn't trying to be a dick either. But here's a guy who hasn't done any drugs before and wants to do hallucinogens. I thought someone should say don't do it, no matter how hypocritical I am being.

On June 29 2009 18:37 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2009 10:32 curtinsea wrote: Intelligent people stay away from this stuff. It's not a productive endeavor by any means. Do you really want to give up control of your very mind if even for a brief moment? a strong hallucinogen trip can be extremely enlightening.

enlightening? what, learn how one's thought processes can be deceived through drugs? there is no self awareness or cosmic enlightenment coming from tripping with Uncle 'cid. A recreational experience, yes, but enlightenment? surely you jest.

On June 29 2009 19:17 curtinsea wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2009 18:37 Baal wrote:   On June 29 2009 10:32 curtinsea wrote: Intelligent people stay away from this stuff. It's not a productive endeavor by any means. Do you really want to give up control of your very mind if even for a brief moment? a strong hallucinogen trip can be extremely enlightening. enlightening? what, learn how one's thought processes can be deceived through drugs? there is no self awareness or cosmic enlightenment coming from tripping with Uncle 'cid. A recreational experience, yes, but enlightenment? surely you jest.

people find enlightenment in different ways

I have done mushrooms many times and I have never hallucinated, only time I have was on acid (which I definitely dont recommend if u havent done any drugs)

I really appreciate all the warnings out here and it really confirmed for me that I have to get some more experience with drugs (what an odd thing to say lol) before I think about doing shrooms or even start thinking about acid. Believe me though, I am not diving into this head first without trying to find out where I'd get myself into first. I know that doing drugs without any precautions and basically being too bold will have a good chance of ending all wrong and not how you want it to happen. I think I'll start out with some weed soonish to see how that works and I'll go from there.

Btw, about the enlightenment discussion. Like, I obviously have no experience, but from what I've read a lot of discoveries and enlightenments have happened under the influence of drugs. I read that when I stumbled upon the term ''psychonaut'' which basically means people that try to explore the deeper part of the mind through drugs (mostly hallucinogens). Hell, even some psychiatrists and antropologist, that have practiced there profession at a very high level have used drugs to try and find a deeper conciences in the human brain/spirit.

On June 29 2009 12:04 byrnesam wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2009 11:22 Kilay wrote: Been thinking about smoking weed but as far as I know, that doesn't make you hallucinate. Seems to be a good way to get introduced to stuff though because it's a softdrug (hell, even legal in Holland). Btw, curtin, I am an intelligent individual but is it so weird to be curious as to how it is to experience stuff like hallucinations. I am not looking for just an euphoric feeling like the normal high is described but to really have this sort of outbody experience or whatever, see things that are completely not there. I guess you could say I am little bit fascinated by the idea of being a psychonaut. Whatever, I'll probably never (or at least not in the near future) doing it because I usually pussy out at stuff like this. Not sure if that's for the best or not. We'll see. Although weed isnt what youre looking for, I think what youre suggesting is kind of like asking "hey guys I was thinking of learning to play poker, how many buy-ins do i need to play 3/6?" Youre better off starting at the penny stakes and movin up. Weed doesnt make you hallucinate but its definitely worth smoking up. You get a really good buzz, youll spin out a little bit, laugh hysterically at stuff which probably isnt that funny and experience mundane food in a whole new way. Maybe you could try experimenting with some of those dream teas and like that kind of stuff and being in a dream state. If you really wanna go for it, make Witches Brew - but youll probably die.

This exactly, you are better off experiencing the altered states of mind that drugs are inducing in smaller steps, if you are as inexperienced with drugs as you are. This will make badtrips less likely, because you will know what its like to be influenced by drugs to a certain degree. I would suggest weed/N2O -> MDMA or mushrooms or light dose of DXM (~300mg dextromethorphan) -> LSD - > DMT/Ayahuaska/Mescalin/Salvia.

For me psychedelics is an experience I would not have liked to be without, I have had and still have some of the biggest experiences and revelations of my life on them, on some of them I get awesome thoughts and thinking ability where I can see through very abstract problems. I also get an incredible sense of music like I never heard before, with in ear headphones its like music is playing in 3D in a great concert hall with totally clear sound, each instrument plays from a distinct place in my head and some notes sound incredible like you can feel them swinging with nerves in your spine, making it not only sound but also feel awesome you can literally feel the music

Of course others have different experiences, I dont think any two people have the exact same feeling on a psychedelic drug. They are also non addicting to me because if I do it too often I lose some of the great effects

I never really had hallucinations, though once on shrooms I saw a geometric pattern for a short time but that is all, and I have tried some different stuff, never DMT or salvia though but I think those would do it

I guess enlightenment is up to the individual. I don't want to argue (especially against Baal, he's a bruiser!) whether anything productive can be learned from 'tripping'. I learned that those kinds of drugs weren't for me, so I guess that was enlightening. Dr. Timothy Leary 'experimented' with lsd for years, and as far as I know the only thing he discovered is that it was fun, especially with college chicks whose pants it was easy to get into when they were high.

Sit around in a smoking circle with some good weed and discuss life with your mates and you will discover some brilliant shit. And for kicks, record it so you can see how stupid it sounds once the dope wears off lol

whiskey in one hand, weed in the other, and smile on your face!

On June 29 2009 19:17 curtinsea wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2009 18:37 Baal wrote:   On June 29 2009 10:32 curtinsea wrote: Intelligent people stay away from this stuff. It's not a productive endeavor by any means. Do you really want to give up control of your very mind if even for a brief moment? a strong hallucinogen trip can be extremely enlightening. enlightening? what, learn how one's thought processes can be deceived through drugs? there is no self awareness or cosmic enlightenment coming from tripping with Uncle 'cid. A recreational experience, yes, but enlightenment? surely you jest.

i dont mind cosmical or retarded hippy bullshit enlightment however your awareness is totally changed and you realize many stuff you dont wouldnt think about normally.

Oh and bad trips are not really of seeing a demon that will kill you more trivial stuff that triggers extreme anxiety.

For example my bad trip on acid well i were laughing my ass off with a friend who is extremely funny, usually laughter kind of makes some drugs hit you harder (like weed), so well you know when you breath you can actually feel the air go through your nostrils, well somehow i couldnt feel it so i started freaking out because i though i couldnt breat and i were in the middle of hundreds of assholes in a concert.

So a bit panicked i begged my friend to come out with me ( it was in the woods at night, i didnt want to get lost high on LSD ) so i start pushing the people out of my way and kept walking out but i felt like i pushed the same guy over and over and over until u couldnt walk anymore it was too overwhelming so i took a dive on the grass and my fear made my friend badtripp too so we stood there on the ground in the middle of the people bad tripping like hell ROFL.

Then after a while we finally bumped into our girl friend who usually acts like our mom and she laughed her ass off because she knew that we 2 alone would do something stupid (as usual) and we went to a restaurant but the Acid come down was amazing, i werent that high anymore so i could focus on other things than just the effects, so in the dinner the guy playing the guitar on the restaurant was super super drunk so a drunk old man interacting with a bunch of kids coming off LSD it was hilarious, the jokes were so good it all looked almost scripted

On June 29 2009 20:17 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On June 29 2009 19:17 curtinsea wrote:   On June 29 2009 18:37 Baal wrote:   On June 29 2009 10:32 curtinsea wrote: Intelligent people stay away from this stuff. It's not a productive endeavor by any means. Do you really want to give up control of your very mind if even for a brief moment? a strong hallucinogen trip can be extremely enlightening. enlightening? what, learn how one's thought processes can be deceived through drugs? there is no self awareness or cosmic enlightenment coming from tripping with Uncle 'cid. A recreational experience, yes, but enlightenment? surely you jest. i dont mind cosmical or retarded hippy bullshit enlightment however your awareness is totally changed and you realize many stuff you dont wouldnt think about normally.

Richard Feynman was known to only do hallucinogens. Mainly cause any other drug causes permanent brain damage (usually moderate amounts) . But he cared so much about keeping his intellect intact that he never touched alcohol and sticked to hallucinogens. just backing up baal.

also u can def "trip" with weed. trip light i guess. but i would def consider it tripping.

also i feel like i have to defend salvia (because i never trip bad on it) a bit since it's still widely legal and idiots/attention whores love to cam themselves tripping.

i've had bad "trips" on weed but only tried shrooms/lsd with limited use. when i tried lsd they had a premium for "premium" which helped prevent bad trips. i don't know if this is true but my experience with it was that it paid off. i dunno i might have been robbed though.

On June 29 2009 00:02 killThemDonks wrote: 2 hits of MDMA on an empty stomach + club with crazy lights is a guaranteed trip imo. Shrooms are pretty good too from what i've heard. the best trip i've ever had was from a shitload of weed brownies. u get a crazy body high and hallucinate a ton

lol weed brownies wouldn't make you hallucinate. I've had over 4+ grams of hash in brownies and it just fucks you up.

i would bet anything you'd pass out within 2 hours tho if you have brownies that potent.

wow there's way too many people that never tried shit and are trying to give advice lawl
definitely just try and smoke some good ass chronic. and if you dun give a fuckkk try other shit.

stay away from hella addictive shit like coke. hard to stay away from even after like 1 or 2 tries imo.

weed is the best hangover medicine btw. hands down. then a nice fatty breakfast

On June 30 2009 03:51 YoMeR wrote: wow there's way too many people that never tried shit and are trying to give advice lawl definitely just try and smoke some good ass chronic. and if you dun give a fuckkk try other shit. stay away from hella addictive shit like coke. hard to stay away from even after like 1 or 2 tries imo. weed is the best hangover medicine btw. hands down. then a nice fatty breakfast

really? is weed good for hangovers?

Kilay, shrooms might be hard to get with them being illegal now and all, but you could still go for truffels.

here are some good rules for enjoying your trip if you decide to do it:

1. don't use them alone the first time, be with someone you are comfortable with

2. don't take them all at once, start with half, then spread out the rest starting after about 2 hours.

3. be sure you don't have to do anything the next day, it's nice to have a relaxed day to reflect on your experience.

4. if your planning on using outside, i would suggest a lake/forest. If not, use them at home.

5. if you are using them at home, be sure everything is in order. Things like your keys, the lights, your phone, open/close windows, lock door, is the oven off or whatever.

6. have stuff around to eat and drink, as many different textures and tastes as you can get.

7. take them with honey, big fat gulps of honey. It helps

8. be sure you have some orange juice and something like winegums/sugary candy. If for some reason you get a realy bad trip, start guzzling the oj and get some sugar in you.

9.on a personal note i would suggest you to try and do some simple math, it's hilarious. Also try to use your computer/surf the web. Hilarity ensues :D

that's about it, if you follow these rules your in for a great time

edit: also after reading thread:

weed does not make you "trip" as in hallucinate, if this happens while your high it's litteraly "all in your head"

Salvia is a big NONO if your not familiar with tripping.

On June 29 2009 20:09 curtinsea wrote: I guess enlightenment is up to the individual. I don't want to argue (especially against Baal, he's a bruiser!) whether anything productive can be learned from 'tripping'. I learned that those kinds of drugs weren't for me, so I guess that was enlightening. Dr. Timothy Leary 'experimented' with lsd for years, and as far as I know the only thing he discovered is that it was fun, especially with college chicks whose pants it was easy to get into when they were high. Sit around in a smoking circle with some good weed and discuss life with your mates and you will discover some brilliant shit. And for kicks, record it so you can see how stupid it sounds once the dope wears off lol whiskey in one hand, weed in the other, and smile on your face!

loltrolislol

I've done shrooms once, and I don't think that I will ever do them again, but they are really fun :D