poke-her

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awesome job

thanks real happy today

lookin good!

Nice Congrats

Only a silver star? Horrible.

G'd up from the feet up

you are a winning player so far

gj dude

just keep playing

overlimp pf.raising is pointless /w 66.

On April 14 2009 05:32 ReDDcaFFe wrote: overlimp pf.raising is pointless /w 66.

Its 7Handed, and 66 Has a solid equity against most hands and awesome implied odds against High Pairs...
Add some PF Fold Equity and I think you got a pretty decent point.

(+Anyone semi-competent will notice your set mining sooner or later)

On April 14 2009 05:32 ReDDcaFFe wrote: overlimp pf.raising is pointless /w 66.

lol

very nice dude keep it up

we fly high

On April 14 2009 07:36 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2009 05:32 ReDDcaFFe wrote: overlimp pf.raising is pointless /w 66. Its 7Handed, and 66 Has a solid equity against most hands and awesome implied odds against High Pairs... Add some PF Fold Equity and I think you got a pretty decent point. (+Anyone semi-competent will notice your set mining sooner or later)

ur on a good way to become realy good player
ur problem is that ur giving too much credit to players on lowstakes
limiping is usualy bad.. reason is on theoretical side and it cant be calculated easy or precise (but amount ur losing by limping is very small but still biger then 0 (if everyone folds to big blind , u cant force him to make mistake b/c he can always check ) on other side limping gives u alot .. by giving u oportunity to mix up ur plays etc... that's a good side
limping behind def. isn't bad b/c ur hand cry for multiway pots
limping EP on micro stakes with low PP is OK if u are limp/calling and table is full of bad players
playing low pp oop postflop can be very tricky and hard to play so i dont mind if ur trying to keep pot small when ur oop and waiting for big hand (and it's not going to be big problem to take money from the fish anyway (even if pot is limped))

i dont mind raising or folding low PP it's realy player dependent and knowing ur opponents and table dynamics
i know players that profitable raise all hands that they play from every position and they are still good winers

^ obv this is in general and ofc nothing against u ( i wrote this b/c i see bunch of micro stakes player here talking about this so i think maybe this can help u )

and btw i like raising here b/c we are double deep and implied odds goes skyrocket up

On April 14 2009 10:57 morph1 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2009 07:36 LemOn[5thF] wrote:   On April 14 2009 05:32 ReDDcaFFe wrote: overlimp pf.raising is pointless /w 66. Its 7Handed, and 66 Has a solid equity against most hands and awesome implied odds against High Pairs... Add some PF Fold Equity and I think you got a pretty decent point. (+Anyone semi-competent will notice your set mining sooner or later) ur on a good way to become realy good player ur problem is that ur giving too much credit to players on lowstakes limiping is usualy bad.. reason is on theoretical side and it cant be calculated easy or precise (but amount ur losing by limping is very small but still biger then 0 (if everyone folds to big blind , u cant force him to make mistake b/c he can always check ) on other side limping gives u alot .. by giving u oportunity to mix up ur plays etc... that's a good side limping behind def. isn't bad b/c ur hand cry for multiway pots limping EP on micro stakes with low PP is OK if u are limp/calling and table is full of bad players playing low pp oop postflop can be very tricky and hard to play so i dont mind if ur trying to keep pot small when ur oop and waiting for big hand (and it's not going to be big problem to take money from the fish anyway (even if pot is limped)) i dont mind raising or folding low PP it's realy player dependent and knowing ur opponents and table dynamics i know players that profitable raise all hands that they play from every position and they are still good winers

I play 200bb deep 6Max, there is no limping of 66+ PP ever, fish or no fish-I still play so many hands with them they would notice sooner or later unless completely tarded ;o I just Call20 when somebody raises...

(Oh and the roughly 80% C/Bet success I get by choosing correct spots is also a plus)
I know I can't play like this NL10 because its 100bb deep and nobody folds anything but thats why I don't play it.

P.S. I have also Raise20 rule and do it only when I got position on the loose guys.

limping 66 there is most certainly the correct play and you're wrong in every aspect if you disagree

i very rarely limp btw but that is definitely a spot where you shouldnt raise 66

Well I would raise less if the table is oblivious enough, but yeah with 3 limpers the full pf raise is too much unless we know that either all will call or just one ;o

Submitted by : genjix

PokerStars Game #27069842119: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/04/14 5:43:45 WET [2009/04/14 0:43:45 ET]
Table Fiducia V 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Païtabière ($29.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Acein8ter ($28.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Manitou Mart ($24.40 in chips)
Seat 5: ScottyP431 ($25.65 in chips)
Seat 6: genjix ($29 in chips)
Seat 9: nickianthony ($27.45 in chips)
bakkarat is disconnected
bakkarat has timed out while disconnected
bakkarat: is sitting out
nickianthony: posts small blind $0.10
Païtabière: posts big blind $0.25
Twiggs31204: sits out

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to genjix
Acein8ter: folds
bakkarat is connected
Manitou Mart: calls $0.25
ScottyP431: folds
genjix: raises $0.75 to $1
nickianthony: folds
Païtabière: folds
Manitou Mart: raises $0.75 to $1.75
bakkarat has returned
genjix: calls $0.75

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $3.85)

   
Manitou Mart: checks
genjix: bets $2
Manitou Mart: raises $2 to $4
genjix: raises $2 to $6
Manitou Mart: raises $2 to $8
genjix: raises $2 to $10
Manitou Mart: raises $2 to $12
genjix: raises $2 to $14
Manitou Mart: raises $2 to $16
genjix: raises $2 to $18
Manitou Mart: raises $2 to $20
genjix: raises $2 to $22
Manitou Mart: raises $0.65 to $22.65 and is all-in
genjix said, "ghhaha"
genjix: calls $0.65

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $49.15)

   

River (Pot : $49.15)

   

Showdown
Manitou Mart: shows (a pair of Aces)
genjix: shows (three of a kind, Fives)
genjix collected $46.70 from pot

Summary
Total pot $49.15 | Rake $2.45
Board  
Seat 1: Païtabière (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Acein8ter folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Manitou Mart showed and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: ScottyP431 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: genjix (button) showed and won ($46.70) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 9: nickianthony (small blind) folded before Flop

Nice...would you recommend FR over 6 max?

6max gives higher profits but its more volatile and takes a much deeper understanding of the game

well i like ur play here tbh. default i would have probably limped unless i had reason to raise utg and all the players out because i would like to flop and take. takin in the fact that some of these players are a little deeper than full buyin, that's a plus to ur case. bloating the pot, if you hit big, you're stacking off more or less. im having trouble figuring out how dmo played that. god, that is so bad especially against a generic range, he's still looking good.

here's my case for limping: it's nl25. sure semi-competents could tell, but how many semis do we have at nl25?

but again i like the play. i'm interested in seeing your red line (won money without showdown). u seem like a very solid consistent player. i will definitely get in touch with you.

in regards to your bet sizing, i find it well sized, but i suppose if u shave a quarter or something it wouldn't be bad in retrospect. i mean if u are tryin to get fold equity ur sizing is good and when u do get called u have a better feel for the range ur opponent is playing adding to ur hud stats.

and in regards to switchin from fr, i'd say u'r good with full ring as it's probably gonna be more consistent for you.