Wtf is this shit

he is my dream

uhg im just so tilted b/c he is holding my money (and thx to my shitty 6-10 BI bankroll management this is a lot to me). First hand in at the table he posts blind OOP and calls 2 streets with A4o and hits runner runner straight on the river to my QQ. It was downhill ever since then. He lost 1 buyin back to someone who simply had to flop the absolute mega nuts fullhouse so as not to be outdrawn against this fish, WHO STILL MANAGED TO HIT A FLUSH ON THE RIVER. I guess you just have to fuckin play AA and KK only against these cunts to ever win. It's just like if anything, anything WHATSOEVER completes on any street, you have to shutdown every hand that cant beat it. I.E. the low card pairs on the river, END OF FUCKING HAND, he has trip deuces on 2KJQ2 board. Or if the board is 456 and you have 66 and river is 7, GAME FUCKING OVER, HE ALWAYS HAS THE 3 HERE.... jesus christ. Almost lost another keyboard to this mother fucker.

I would love to hear an aggro way to play these types though, that involves lots of iso-raising and shit. It's just, well we see he never folds. We HAVE to be ahead of his range a good majority of the time. You have absolutely no range to put him on. He calls every flop, every turn, and usually every river with any pair. He just kept fucking connecting with crazy insane 2 pairs and other random shit against me and everyone else so oftne it was like "wtf holy shit what can we do". Everyone kept raising this kid, and he kept sucking out on everyone. He eventually left at around $60 and moved to NL50. I contemplated following but figured after this fucking bullshit gayass downswing to him moving UP limits was the last thing I should do.

were you playing NL100 FR yesterday? o.o

Negative. I'm at least trying to be somewhat reasonable with my bankroll.

just raise his limp with any decent holding when you're ip until the other players start to adapt.

Your approach to this is wrong. You want to play lots of hands with him if he is weak postflop (which apparently he isn't, he never folds), but if he is a station and you're isolating him with marginal hands you will never know where you're at because his range is any two and you can't make him fold.

So tighten up and play a value range (not a super tight one, just a pretty good one) and try make top pair type hands and then value bet him to death since he never folds. Plus, take advantage of his see-through tendencies. You say he minraises with the nuts, that will be you're cue to exit the hand if you have marginal holdings. Otherwise just value bet bet bet.

stop bitching. look at this hand i butchered by spazzing out vs this absolute fucking calling station

Submitted by : genjix

PokerStars Game #26944088109: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/04/10 21:11:11 WET [2009/04/10 16:11:11 ET]
Table Sirona III 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: helios25 ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: pizo9 ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: RudiTurbo ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: Lumpi81 ($5 in chips)
Seat 5: zZzTILT ($25.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Th3 ZodiAc ($26.95 in chips)
Seat 7: dancp34 ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 8: knorpeltorte ($24.40 in chips)
Seat 9: genjix ($41.95 in chips)
genjix: posts small blind $0.10
helios25: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to genjix
pizo9: calls $0.25
RudiTurbo: folds
Lumpi81: folds
zZzTILT: folds
Th3 ZodiAc: calls $0.25
dancp34: folds
knorpeltorte: raises $1 to $1.25
genjix: raises $2.75 to $4
helios25: folds
pizo9: calls $3.75
Th3 ZodiAc: folds
knorpeltorte: calls $2.75

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $12.50)

   
genjix: bets $4
pizo9: calls $4
knorpeltorte: folds

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $20.50)

   
genjix: checks
pizo9: bets $5
genjix: raises $5 to $10
pizo9: raises $5 to $15
genjix: raises $5 to $20
pizo9: calls $2 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($3) returned to genjix

River (Pot : $54.50)

   

Showdown
genjix: shows (three of a kind, Aces)
pizo9: shows (a flush, Ace high)
pizo9 collected $51.85 from pot

Summary
Total pot $54.50 | Rake $2.65
Board  
Seat 1: helios25 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: pizo9 showed and won ($51.85) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: RudiTurbo folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Lumpi81 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: zZzTILT folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Th3 ZodiAc folded before Flop
Seat 7: dancp34 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: knorpeltorte (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: genjix (small blind) showed and lost with three of a kind, Aces

On April 11 2009 19:12 barbieman wrote: just raise his limp with any decent holding when you're ip until the other players start to adapt.

I actually managed to snag the seat on his left so I had position on him every hand. After he took me for my 2nd buyin with some garbage, I just ignored the table and folded everything that I would normally fold anyway. 1 suckout, and then one attempt to isolate with 9Ts and I flop an open ender and he checkminraised me on flop so I shoved and couldnt draw out. He had K5o FOR A PAIR OF FIVES. Even when he had the biggest dog of hands, like TPNK A3o, people would get robbed on the river and they would split etc.

Anyway this is mostly a whine post but thats why it's in the blog. Hopefully I'll read this again later when I am relaxed and take something away from it.

woops, forgot to mention this was at NL25, to add some context to his 97/0/1 playstyle

And I cant stop bitching because I'm trying to speed crush my way through to a limit I can fulltime it at and make some decent money, like NL50 or NL100 maybe. I think I'll finally mellow out and feel good playing there for a long time instead of moving every 8 BI's or so. Damn you maynard and marshall and boku and all the other ballers who can flip $100 into $10,000 in a month.

Yea my guess is that he ran hot (normal), you don't understand variance at all (normal) and that you probably played like utter crap vs him (wtf@shoving draws vs people you know can't fold shit and never bluffs?).

people suck post flop... the end.

This guy is obviously an incredible postflop player!

On April 11 2009 19:40 Benzooor wrote: This guy is obviously an incredible postflop player!

yepp, he was probably way over you skill level sir :/

On April 11 2009 19:35 DustySwedeDude wrote: and that you probably played like utter crap vs him (wtf@shoving draws vs people you know can't fold shit and never bluffs?).

Yes this happens to me a lot. I see them call off 52o for a gutshot and say "ka-ching, lets play this guy" and then I totally fuckin fail at doing it. I've actually begun to cascade my tables to de-tilt myself so I dont even see whats going on. Just play each street by looking and the circumstances and a glance at villain stats. Unfortunately I dragged this guys table to the side precisely so I COULD watch him, and it only enticed me to keep playing marginal hands with him with no clue where he was at, and he would do such random things like call my cbet, then bet out .25 on the turn, then snap-min3bet me when I raised to like 2, or do something utterly wild and just bet $10 in to a $4 pot on the turn... I dont know the math of this game very well, but cmon JTs has gotta be significantly better than 63o. I wish I knew what % my hands stood up against his when he has a high card for example.

Haha he is playing NL100 right now. You have his screename, go get some free money ya'll

lol.

btw my iso-raising range for this guy was like the following:

KJo
A9o
A5s
JTs
9Ts
55+

And of course all the actual good hands. Is this just too loose?

And even though his fold to cbet is a mighty 38%, I still cbet just about all of these b/c wtf he cant pair up every single time. I basically considered any cbet to be a semi-bluff b/c if I hit any pair it probably dominates whatever this retard has. So I'm semi-bluffing to hit pairs and draws. And for god's sake just flop a pair or something for once, but no.

Watch em bust.

Submitted by : NewbSaibot

PokerStars Game #26990373728: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/04/11 21:14:04 ET
Table Volans VIII 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: disisit69 ($122.60 in chips)
Seat 2: orlovgraf ($100 in chips)
Seat 3: ErlendOye ($125.10 in chips)
Seat 4: Gamma0305 ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: work2do ($113.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Vouge Glasse ($101 in chips)
ErlendOye: posts small blind $0.50
Gamma0305: posts big blind $1

Holecards
work2do: folds
Vouge Glasse: folds
work2do leaves the table
ahippl1 joins the table at seat #5
disisit69: calls $1
orlovgraf: folds
ErlendOye: raises $4 to $5
Gamma0305: folds
disisit69: calls $4

Flop (Pot : $11.00)

   
ErlendOye: bets $9
disisit69: calls $9

Turn (Pot : $29.00)

   
ErlendOye: bets $26
disisit69: raises $26 to $52
ErlendOye: raises $59.10 to $111.10 and is all-in
disisit69: calls $56.60 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($2.50) returned to ErlendOye

River (Pot : $246.20)

   

Showdown
ErlendOye: shows (a pair of Kings)
disisit69: mucks hand
ErlendOye collected $243.20 from pot
disisit69 leaves the table

Summary
Total pot $246.20 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: disisit69 mucked
Seat 2: orlovgraf (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: ErlendOye (small blind) showed and won ($243.20) with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: Gamma0305 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: work2do folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Vouge Glasse folded before Flop (didnt bet)

thats why people play with 20bi + @ certain limit , set a 3-5bi stoploss & dont care when a donk has a good day

people aren't "flipping $100 into $10k" very much, try to focus on proper bankroll management and overall habits with tilt / stoploss etc that people already said here .