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Clamper13   United States. Dec 17 2007 00:30. Posts 43

Selecting A Partner

New to trading? Want to avoid a scam, or other trading hassles?

Here are some pointers on keeping yourself safe. Also review the Trading Guidelines and Alleged Scammers List.

A low post count and recent registration does warrant increased caution, but not automatically indicate the trustworthiness of a potential trading partner.

I think that that there are better ways to gauge a person's reliability. Here is my top eleven list, in no particular order.

Ask yourself these questions about your potential partner before engaging in any trade.

1. Are they unable to provide a verifiable history?
2. Do they insist on you trading first?
3. Do they refuse a small 'test' trade?
4. Are they in a hurry?
5. Do their online stats appear inconsistent with the amount of the trade?
6. Do they claim being already victimized?
7. Are there any inconsistencies in their statements?
8. Are they reluctant to provide information, ie. screen names on both sites, or show funds on the site that they will pay you from?
9. Does their forum name, player name(s), IM or email address show negative comments on this or any other site?
10. Do they have a low post count and/or recent registration?
11. Did they initially contact you off-site?

If you answer 'yes' to any one item on that list, proceed with extreme caution. If you answer 'yes' to two items, then pause, post your concerns on the forum, and get advice from a seasonsed trader. If you answer 'yes' to three or more, then don't do the trade.


Clamper13   United States. Dec 17 2007 00:32. Posts 43

Alleged Scammers List

DISCLAIMER (for the lawyers in the crowd)

Inclusion on this list does not imply any criminal act, or any actionable civil cause.

This is a compilation gleaned from this and other public forums.

Each player ID will have at least one assertion levied against them, without exculpatory or disputatious replies.
----------
If a name is NOT on this list, it does not automatically mean that they are okay. Scammers change names frequently, and will even try to assume the identity of a known and respected trader.

If you ever have any doubts, questions or concerns about anyone, post them in the forum before sending funds, then wait for advice.
----------
The following players are alleged to have unsuccessful transactions.

If you believe any information here to be inaccurate, then post or PM without delay.

If you would like me to add to this list, then post or PM with relevant links.

I'll say this one time only, so pay attention, sit closer, and turn up your speakers.

IF YOU SEND MONEY TO ANYONE ON THIS LIST, YOU HAVE A DEATH WISH.
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`dExX103 on PS
321Frank123 on PS (watch)
59tbird on Stars
ace_acehigh on UB
aces_acehigh on FTP and PS and AP
acez_acehigh on AP
adamkatip on FTP and PS
Alan227 on PS
Alarm19 on FT (watch)
ald1das3 on FT
Andersvisa UB
annathedonk on PS
atc7777 on PS (watch)
atc7777 on UB
bi0h4z4rd on PS (watch)
bigbluffer247 on FTP (watch)
blaster17 on PS
bLeZZed1 on FTP
bobthebutthead on FTP
botchman on PS (claimed unauthorized use, promised to repay)
BowChikaWoWo on FTP
BP1985 on FT
Brian Shaw on PS (watch)
BSTNAMEEVER on AP
Bulldog889 on FT & PS (watch)
canonfjserie on Stars (watch)
cantinflitas on PS (watch)
CarolinaTk on PS
Centurianm77 on ?? (watch)
Chef2882 on FTP
Chewsh on PS
clamperthe13 on PS (watch)
cMeWinS on FTP
cmoreeyes on PS (watch)
cookiesnatcher on FTP (watch)
danacannon12 on FTP
deczero05 on UB
dethrone on UB
dExX103 on PS (see `dExX103 on PS)
diomed3000 on FTP
djmuggs on FT & PS
dlishs on FTP (watch)
Donate2You on FTP
DonovanMD on FTP and PS
Dop_Tk on FT
DoubleMeUp2 on FTP
dougieboy888 on PS (watch)
dparks222 on AP
dustinkeenan on AP
dyarbs on FTP
emberphoenix on FTP
englandpl20 on PS
EVISCERATED on AP
fadi89 on PS
fkeplastictrees on FTP (watch)
Frankie_696969 on FTP
Ftops2 on FT (watch)
Funny Joke on PS
fusting4321 at FTP (watch)
ginger1984 on PS
gofishhaha on FTP
GreenIsMyFavit on FT
greensmoke on Stars and AP
grlbflo07 on PS
HateToFold33 on FTP
hellmuthsboy768 on FTP (disputed)
holdempkr27 on FTP
hooknladder on Cake
hoyasacksa on FTP (watch)
huang866 on PS
iamgenious99 on PS
imad0nk0nk on PS (watch)
IRdyourcards on Cake
itss myy timee on FTP (watch)
j4lvlie on AP
jackboy86 on Red Kings
jacksparrowarrr on FTP (watch)
JamesBond_AA on Prima, PS and FTP
jay__323232 on FTP and PS
jay_323232 on FTP and PS
Jaycen190 on PS
JayNAzz on PitBull
Jazz Flute on FTP
Jeff3 on Bodog
Jeff311420 on FT & PS
jeppg11111 on FTP
JewyJewstein on PS (watch)
Jimbo51 on FTP
JOCO23 on FT
JoCo23 on PS
joejean19 on FTP
johnabess@yahoo.com
jonnyj123 on FTP
joshman on PS
jt21jt21 on epassporte
JUJILICIOUS on FTP
Jvilchez on PS
Jvilchez13 on PS
katienotaro on ePass
l__Lil_WaYne__l on FTP
Lamb Kabobo on PS
lamb kabobo on Stars
Lambobo on UB
Lambobo100 on Abs
likesmoney on FTP (watch)
limitninja on Stars and FTP (reparations)
limitninja15 on AP (reparations)
LP7SLIP on FTP
Lucky1223 on FT
Manleyyy on FTP
Marco995 on FTP (watch)
masterman07 on FT (watch)
Matthew Yankley on FTP (watch)
mele68 on FT (watch)
mele8 on PS (watch)
MightyMike11 on PS (watch)
MikeFarha on PS (watch)
mojavedesert on AP
molbydick on PS
MoneyyMakerr on PS
mrblond21 on FTP and PS
mtg1985 on Cake (watch)
Munchers94 on PS (watch)
Munchrs on FT (watch)
newaruizdomaat on FT (watch)
Nez Gros on FTP
ngaplz on UB
ngaplz1 on PS
ngaplz1 on UB
nohchi19 on PS
o_u_wi_sh on PS
oneouterson on FTP and PS
Onion_Bagel on FTP
p0kerpl4yer2007 on FTP
patgragg123 on FTP (watch)
phillysphinestz on FTP
PimpNuHoe on FT (watch)
PlzDontCRMe on UB
pokerlife2 on PS
pokerlife654 on PS
pokerplayer4352 on FTP
pokerswaps.com (watch)
pothitter85 on FT & PS (watch)
ptdatabase@gmail.com (Jeff) on Cake
puepwnage on AP
pushdonkey on AP
rachelmorris on FTP
Rags4Sale on PS
Rakim Allah on FTP
Randy Hickey on PS
ReadinVin92 on FTP
redsd00dz on PS
river_rotta on PS
robertswift on FTP
robertswift82 on Stars
robkil0 on PS
robzanti on FTP
rosso87 on FTP, rosso_87 on PS
RTK121 on UB
ryanfields86 on PS
Samp15555 on PS
schruterules on AP
senorfrogz on UB
shipmntz on PS
ShockAndAww on FTP
Shoobee on FTP (watch)
Shoremen8938 on PS and FTP
SlipdonAK all sites
sportzboy226 on FTP (watch)
Stop_Kanting on FTP (watch)
strongbad311 on PS & UB
StrongBad311 on UB
stubblebeard on PS (watch)
svenskfisk on UB (watch)
SwgCrazy on PS
Ta5kMa5ter on FTP
ThaWackoKidd on PS
THE INVASION at FTP
The_N_Sider on FTP (watch)
TheBigYak on PS
thechinacat on FTP
TheMacGuy on Stars
theman728 on AP & FT (watch)
TheQuadfecta on FTP (watch)
therealkramm on PS
TheYankley on UB
TiltHappens on UB, FTP, PS
Timnogaj at AP
Toyota4Banger on FTP
TrainInVain on PS
Turdburglar13 on FT
voippoker200 on FTP
WEBMAN27 on AP
wetback123 on PS
Wetbacks123 on PS (watch)
whyamisohawt on FTP
wsucoug2010 on FTP and PS
x_13i0hazard_xx on FTP (watch)
xxbi0hazard on FTP
xxnashxx on FTP
xxxslicknick on PS and FTP
yahoo1212 on epass
YanniYankiev on Stars
yipekeyyamofker on FTP
The_N_Sider on FTP (watch)
TheBigYak on PS
thechinacat on FTP
TheMacGuy on Stars
theman728 on AP & FT (watch)
TheQuadfecta on FTP (watch)
therealkramm on PS
TheYankley on UB
TiltHappens on UB, FTP, PS
Timnogaj at AP
Toyota4Banger on FTP
TrainInVain on PS
Turdburglar13 on FT
voippoker200 on FTP
WEBMAN27 on AP
wetback123 on PS
Wetbacks123 on PS (watch)
whyamisohawt on FTP
wsucoug2010 on FTP and PS
x_13i0hazard_xx on FTP (watch)
xxbi0hazard on FTP
xxnashxx on FTP
xxxslicknick on PS and FTP
yahoo1212 on epass
YanniYankiev on Stars
yipekeyyamofker on FTP

Note: Some players on on "watch". There are no allegations, but have been linked to suspect activity.
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Caveat emptor

 Last edit: 17/12/2007 16:37

Meat   . Dec 17 2007 07:17. Posts 3385

I was contacted by IABoomer and I have given to account to him now, so any posts from IABoomer from now on would be the real one.


IABoomer   United States. Dec 17 2007 08:21. Posts 2


  On December 17 2007 06:17 Liquid`Meat wrote:
I was contacted by IABoomer and I have given to account to him now, so any posts from IABoomer from now on would be the real one.



So, I guess this will be my official First Post.

First, thanks to Clamper for being involved in as many places as he is and playing watchdog over these money trades. Without his heads up, I wouldn't have even known that I was being impersonated.

Second, I wasn't planning on signing up with any other forums, but since I have the account, I'll be sure to check around and see what's up.


flopthenutx   United States. Dec 17 2007 12:16. Posts 32

Have 450.00 on Tilt. Swapping for stars or paypal. Will only send first to reputable people. I have been around a few months here. PM me if interested.


Shipittopapa   United States. Dec 17 2007 12:38. Posts 146


  On December 17 2007 11:16 flopthenutx wrote:
Have 450.00 on Tilt. Swapping for stars or paypal. Will only send first to reputable people. I have been around a few months here. PM me if interested.




I can do 350 on stars. Let me know if you still need this. I would suggest not taking pay pal either. PayPal can be reversed and then you would be out money...

EDIT: Actually only contact me if you can't find anyone else. I would like to keep more then what I would have left at stars for sunday.

 Last edit: 17/12/2007 12:55

BlackEgypt   United States. Dec 17 2007 15:19. Posts 167

flopthenutx pms me for a trade. I say ok and ask him to sit at a table he refuses.
Here is our aim convo

retardomongha (4:10:08 PM): YO
retardomongha (4:10:14 PM): this is flop from liquid
BlackEgyptMTT (4:10:40 PM): hi
retardomongha (4:11:07 PM): so orginally i wanted paypal for tilt.. but you have cake?
BlackEgyptMTT (4:11:21 PM): yeah I won a big tournament ont hee
retardomongha (4:11:24 PM): nice
retardomongha (4:11:40 PM): how much did you win
BlackEgyptMTT (4:12:27 PM): 40k
retardomongha (4:12:34 PM): lol wow
retardomongha (4:12:42 PM): ok so 450 on cake for 450 on tilt?
BlackEgyptMTT (4:12:57 PM): fine with me
retardomongha (4:13:00 PM): k
BlackEgyptMTT (4:13:02 PM): what do ou play?
retardomongha (4:13:17 PM): /.50.1.00 nl
retardomongha (4:13:18 PM): low stuff
retardomongha (4:13:31 PM): all my bankroll provides atm
BlackEgyptMTT (4:13:53 PM): 450 is bad bankroll management playin 50/1 dollar nl
BlackEgyptMTT (4:13:57 PM): if u wanna make good mone
BlackEgyptMTT (4:13:59 PM): you should stick to ftp
BlackEgyptMTT (4:14:03 PM): and just grind omaha 8 hu sngs
retardomongha (4:14:09 PM): I can't stand omaha
retardomongha (4:14:19 PM): too many things to calculate
retardomongha (4:14:24 PM): i do well in stud hi low though
retardomongha (4:14:26 PM): or razz
retardomongha (4:15:25 PM): so how do you want to do this are you willing to send first, since ive been on liquid a lot longer
BlackEgyptMTT (4:15:52 PM): you have 26 posts
BlackEgyptMTT (4:15:56 PM): we can go threw clamper
retardomongha (4:16:00 PM): who
BlackEgyptMTT (4:16:05 PM): mod
retardomongha (4:16:08 PM): hes not a mofd
retardomongha (4:16:09 PM): mod
BlackEgyptMTT (4:16:10 PM): yes he is
BlackEgyptMTT (4:16:16 PM): hes a mod at ftp forums and 2+2
retardomongha (4:16:18 PM): i need to do this now
BlackEgyptMTT (4:16:21 PM): lol
retardomongha (4:16:25 PM): lol what
BlackEgyptMTT (4:16:29 PM): whats ur ftp username
BlackEgyptMTT (4:16:33 PM): and cake username
retardomongha (4:16:49 PM): why so you can tell people im a scammer because i want you to send first as you have 8 posts
BlackEgyptMTT (4:16:55 PM): no?
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:00 PM): i have 150 posts
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:05 PM): what are you talking about
retardomongha (4:17:05 PM): then why do you need my tilt name
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:12 PM): so I cna look up your sharkscpe
retardomongha (4:17:14 PM): im not asking you to send to my tilt
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:20 PM): oh
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:24 PM): whats your cake name?
retardomongha (4:17:30 PM): and i dont give that out to people im not transferring with
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:34 PM): lol
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:36 PM): scamming faggot
retardomongha (4:17:37 PM): k
retardomongha (4:17:38 PM): sure
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:40 PM): k
retardomongha (4:17:40 PM): 8 days
retardomongha (4:17:43 PM): on liquid
retardomongha (4:17:46 PM): and u want me to send first
retardomongha (4:17:48 PM): go fuck urself
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:48 PM): LOL
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:50 PM): ur posts
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:52 PM): have nothing on em
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:55 PM): go sit on a table
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:57 PM): with ur money
BlackEgyptMTT (4:17:59 PM): if u got itt
BlackEgyptMTT (4:18:00 PM): ill send first
BlackEgyptMTT (4:18:02 PM): if not
retardomongha (4:18:02 PM): then u will have my name
BlackEgyptMTT (4:18:05 PM): ur getting banned
retardomongha (4:18:05 PM): FUCK
retardomongha (4:18:06 PM): OFF


flopthenutx   United States. Dec 17 2007 15:19. Posts 32

Watch out for user BlackEgypt.

Wanted me to send first.. He has been registered for 8 days. Said to go through clamper as he is a mod and send to ps account strongbad311... WHICH ISNT EVEN CLAMPERS PS NAME.

Ban please.


BlackEgypt   United States. Dec 17 2007 15:23. Posts 167

Here are all our PMS on here

From: flopthenutx
Posts: 27
Subject: Re: hey
Date: 12/17 11:13

Yes I do. do you have aim?


From: flopthenutx
Posts: 27
Subject: Re: Hey.
Date: 12/17 13:59

I am on aim now. Log on to ur aim.




To: flopthenutx
Posts:
Subject: Re: hey
Date: 12/17 13:30
yeah I do blackegyptmtt or look me up on stars




To: flopthenutx
Posts:
Subject: Re: Hey.
Date: 12/17 14:10

im on aim


BlackEgypt   United States. Dec 17 2007 15:32. Posts 167

Our whole conversation was right there and then he signed off. I never once mentioned clampers ps account as strongbad311 and I dont even know clampers account name it just seemed safer after clampers posts and what he said to do when you wanna do with a trade.

I googled strongbad311 and im pretty sure strongbad(flopnutx is this guy

http://www.pocketfives.com/BEBD51D9-3AEE-43E1-9BF9-A0705ACD53FC.aspx

clamper if you can help me out later i need some money on ftp for sngs

thanks and fuck you scammer ill murder you if you try to take what is mine


BlackEgypt   United States. Dec 17 2007 15:36. Posts 167

I've googled more this guys name is Jeff Lapointe and he goes to salem state in massachusetts(sp?)

This pisses me off so mauch

 Last edit: 17/12/2007 15:44

BigFrank   Canada. Dec 17 2007 15:42. Posts 83

I was going to post this earlier but I talked to flopthenutx a couple of days ago about a FTP trade and he refused to sit down at table to show me his money. That rung bells and I immediately backed out. I suggest caution when dealing with him.


Clamper13   United States. Dec 17 2007 16:44. Posts 43


  On December 17 2007 14:32 BlackEgypt wrote:
Our whole conversation was right there and then he signed off. I never once mentioned clampers ps account as strongbad311 and I dont even know clampers account name it just seemed safer after clampers posts and what he said to do when you wanna do with a trade.

I googled strongbad311 and im pretty sure strongbad(flopnutx is this guy

http://www.pocketfives.com/BEBD51D9-3AEE-43E1-9BF9-A0705ACD53FC.aspx

clamper if you can help me out later i need some money on ftp for sngs

thanks and fuck you scammer ill murder you if you try to take what is mine



Strange tidings indeed.

BlackEgypt, I can trade $100 of my FT if that helps.

flopthenutx, $100 of my PS is available too.

Both of you, if you want me to act as middleman, post here. If you would like to trade, post you account names on both sites. No PM's please.

Clamper13 on FT
Clamper13 (Fremont) on PS


newbie.cjb   United States. Dec 17 2007 17:00. Posts 3096

[QUOTE]On December 16 2007 23:32 Clamper13 wrote:
Alleged Scammers List

DISCLAIMER (for the lawyers in the crowd)

Inclusion on this list does not imply any criminal act, or any actionable civil cause.

This is a compilation gleaned from this and other public forums.

Each player ID will have at least one assertion levied against them, without exculpatory or disputatious replies.
----------
If a name is NOT on this list, it does not automatically mean that they are okay. Scammers change names frequently, and will even try to assume the identity of a known and respected trader.

If you ever have any doubts, questions or concerns about anyone, post them in the forum before sending funds, then wait for advice.
----------
The following players are alleged to have unsuccessful transactions.

If you believe any information here to be inaccurate, then post or PM without delay.

If you would like me to add to this list, then post or PM with relevant links.

I'll say this one time only, so pay attention, sit closer, and turn up your speakers.

IF YOU SEND MONEY TO ANYONE ON THIS LIST, YOU HAVE A DEATH WISH.
----------
clamperthe13 on PS (watch)

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

my lose is a win. my wins are nothing.Last edit: 17/12/2007 17:01

flopthenutx   United States. Dec 17 2007 18:24. Posts 32


  On December 17 2007 14:42 BigFrank wrote:
I was going to post this earlier but I talked to flopthenutx a couple of days ago about a FTP trade and he refused to sit down at table to show me his money. That rung bells and I immediately backed out. I suggest caution when dealing with him.



I have not been on liquid for close to two weeks, yet I messaged you for a trade??? LMFAO.

Where do all you idiots come from?


flopthenutx   United States. Dec 17 2007 18:25. Posts 32


  On December 17 2007 14:32 BlackEgypt wrote:
Our whole conversation was right there and then he signed off. I never once mentioned clampers ps account as strongbad311 and I dont even know clampers account name it just seemed safer after clampers posts and what he said to do when you wanna do with a trade.

I googled strongbad311 and im pretty sure strongbad(flopnutx is this guy

http://www.pocketfives.com/BEBD51D9-3AEE-43E1-9BF9-A0705ACD53FC.aspx

clamper if you can help me out later i need some money on ftp for sngs

thanks and fuck you scammer ill murder you if you try to take what is mine



Oh goodie, now I have some interesting evidence to forward to the police. Just an FYI threatning to kill someone is against the law.


flopthenutx   United States. Dec 17 2007 18:30. Posts 32

99 percent sure bigfrank and this blackegypt are the same person.

Registration dates within 48 hours of one another. Both also registered in december.

Do an ip check, and ban please, it's hard enough to find legit people let alone slanderous scammers hanging out on every corner of the internet.

 Last edit: 17/12/2007 18:37

BigFrank   Canada. Dec 17 2007 18:42. Posts 83

Are you joking?

There is substantial evidence that makes you look EXTREMELY sketchy, kind of ironic how you are trying to turn it around.

Police? Get real.

 Last edit: 17/12/2007 18:43

BlackEgypt   United States. Dec 17 2007 18:57. Posts 167

LOL funny I have our saved conversation and you can IP check I dont know the guy shady dude.

Foward it to the police buddy scamming people like you do over the internet is wire fraud.


BlackEgypt   United States. Dec 17 2007 19:05. Posts 167

I would wager that any member on here adds him or messages him and tries to trade with him he will make a loot of excuses up and will not send first.

I can't just make up a whole aim conversation about some random guy.


 
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