** NEW Transfer Request Thread ** - Page 31

wow its pretty bad indeed

best would be post count + reg date restrictio imo

I'm looking for some Full Tilt Poker money right now so I can multi-table some SNG's.

I need roughly 100 to 500.

Message me. I will be on around 8 pm.

On December 16 2007 13:08 Baal wrote: I think we should restrict this thread for people with less than something like 300 post or something, ill discuss this with nazgul and meat... this is a scammer nest its quite sad.

My two cents.

I've seen this discussed elsewhere. It seemed it wouldn't accomplished what was wanted.

1. Scammers would first create many spurious posts in other threads.
2. New members would be prevented from intervening in suspect activities, or reporting scam activities detected on other sites.
3. It's rare, but veteran posters have allegedly scammed (Oliver Nipples on 2+2)

The discussion usually evolves into whether or not trading will be allowed at all.

Trading seems to work best on sites that have an dedicated moderator who is regularly involved in educating and reviewing its users, and can act quickly when suspicious activities first appear.

Even then, many traders are too naive or lazy for even a perfunctory review of their prospective partner's reliability, despite abundant and obvious evidence to the contrary.

I suggest a few rule changes instead.

1. No requests allowed unless the account names are included.

By knowing ahead of time the involved accounts, a trader could research beforehand his prospective partner. This could prevent the 'Imposter' and new account scams.

2. No Paypal. Too easy to reverse.

Sorry all you good Paypal traders. Too many before you have abused it to make it a viable option.

3. Suggest no IM or email.

If you're a good trader, then trade in the open.

4. Sticky a Trading Guidelines and an Alleged Scammers List.

Admin update: account was originally made to scam, but has been given to real IABoomer now.

On December 16 2007 18:15 IABoomer wrote: Anyone interested in a Money transfer please pm me, i need FTP, i can pay in Stars, Paypal adn Party

IABoomer is a respected mod on FT Forum.

Before trading with him here, wait for verification to see if it's the same person posting here.

Am awaiting a reply to my PM there.

On December 16 2007 16:51 Clamper13 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 16 2007 13:08 Baal wrote: I think we should restrict this thread for people with less than something like 300 post or something, ill discuss this with nazgul and meat... this is a scammer nest its quite sad. My two cents. I've seen this discussed elsewhere. It seemed it wouldn't accomplished what was wanted. 1. Scammers would first create many spurious posts in other threads. 2. New members would be prevented from intervening in suspect activities, or reporting scam activities detected on other sites. 3. It's rare, but veteran posters have allegedly scammed (Oliver Nipples on 2+2) The discussion usually evolves into whether or not trading will be allowed at all. Trading seems to work best on sites that have an dedicated moderator who is regularly involved in educating and reviewing its users, and can act quickly when suspicious activities first appear.to constantly dedicated. Even then, many traders are too naive or lazy for even a perfunctory review of their prospective partner's reliability, despite abundant and obvious evidence to the contrary. I suggest a few rule changes instead. 1. No requests allowed unless the account names are included. By knowing ahead of time the involved accounts, a trader could research beforehand his prospective partner. This could prevent the 'Imposter' and new account scams. 2. No Paypal. Too easy to reverse. Sorry all you good Paypal traders. Too many before you have abused it to make it a viable option. 3. Suggest no IM or email. If you're a good trader, then trade in the open. 4. Sticky a Trading Guidelines and an Alleged Scammers List.

i like the idea, ill discuss it.

its a pretty good idea

is boomers aim jessforpoker the guy told me to add him on aim for a trade

On December 16 2007 19:16 BlackEgypt wrote: is boomers aim jessforpoker the guy told me to add him on aim for a trade

I don't yet have confirmation from IABoomer on FT Forum

Were you contacted either of there on IM?

Jess for poker
jessforpoker

If so, which one.

jessforpoker was his aim he told me in pm

On December 16 2007 19:31 BlackEgypt wrote: jessforpoker was his aim he told me in pm

That's a new one.

I would not be surprised if it's the same person as:

Jess for poker on IM
mele_68@hotmail.com

mele68 on PokerForums.org
mele68 on FT Forum
mele8 on FT Forum

mele68 on FT
mele8 on PS

It's not crystal clear what his intentions are.

No alleged wrongdoing yet, but certainly worth keeping an eye on.

Edit:

I re-read your post. If he contacted you here via PM from IABoomer, then said his IM is jessforpoker, then we're on to something.

he contacted me on here via pm as IABoomer and said is was jessforpoker and to contact him.

On December 16 2007 20:08 BlackEgypt wrote: he contacted me on here via pm as IABoomer and said is was jessforpoker and to contact him.

IABoomer on FT replied to my PM.

He stated that he has not created an account on LP.

I strongly recommed that everyone steer way clear of IABoomer on LP.

so he was trying to scam me?

On December 16 2007 20:43 BlackEgypt wrote: so he was trying to scam me?

thats one way of looking @ it

wow. I would of had to kill him

IABoomers post on Ft Forum
http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/viewtopic.php?t=43715

Recent suspicious posts on 2+2
http://forums.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=66268&page=24

thank ou alot clampe

Mod/Admin. FWIW, I'll post the Trading Guidelines, Selecting A Partner, and Alleged Scammers List that I created and maintain on other sites.

Please feel free to modify or delete as you see fit.

If you would like me to maintain the Alleged Scammers list here as well, please let me know.

Trading Guidelines

Successful inter-site transfers can and do occur between players. Proper use of this site can teach you good trading techniques, and help you find a partner that is right for you.

Before you post, please acquaint yourself with this guide. Also, see the posts "Selecting A Partner", and the "Alleged Scammers List".

Please post in the proper thread. An occasional bump is okay, but please be patient.

Ideally, you will attract the attention of a seasoned trader to partner with. Please don't interpret that to mean that a newer forum member will always equal a greater risk. At one point, we were all newcomers. Instead, I suggest that you keep the amount lower with a newer member compared to a member with a verifiable history.

If you request a transfer
It's generally accepted that the person making the request sends first.

If you agree to a transfer
It is your responsibility to act in a timely manner after receiving the funds.

Both of you
Agree beforehand the direction, amount and timing of the transfer.

By saying "Will trade ABC for XYZ" doesn't paint a clear enough picture. By saying "I have ABC, I need XYZ", you leave no doubt as to the direction of the trade.

Give us an idea of how much you want to transfer. Some sites have a minimum.

You will also be at greater ease if you know when to expect funds. If you know that your partner will be offline for a while, then you won't be as worried.

Verify the screen names on both accounts before any funds are transferred. It's not guaranteed that the screen name on this forum will be the same as the account you are sending to.

Copy and paste the screen name that is provided to you. Typos can cost you.

Communicate
I like to see that all communication, especially between newer members, takes place on this forum. Although various chat programs and private messages are faster, sharing the transaction with other members gives us a better idea of who maintains a successfull track record, and can potentially prevent an attempted scam.

But it's all down to preference. If you want a slightly speedier transaction, and don't feel a desire to let others know the details, then please use the method that best suits you and your partner.

Keep your partner informed as to the status of the transaction. Sending a quick post when you have done something is a courtesy and a huge fear-buster. Something like this:

Player A: I sent you $10.00 on PS.
Player B: I received it. Sending $10.00 now to FTP.
Player A: I got it, thanks.

General
Transfers times vary. I've seen some be near instant, upwards to 20 minutes. FTP states that it can take upwards of 24-48 hours, but I have never seen it take that long.

If something goes wrong

Transfer declined: Inform the other person ASAP. This is especially important if you are holding their funds. Give the reason(s).

If your account is the problem, (account too new, or incomplete registration are possible reasons), then give you partner an option.

1. That you remedy the situation.
2. That you end the transaction (and return any funds sent to you).

If their account is the problem, then:

1. Offer to any hold any received funds until they sort it out at their end.
2. Offer to return their funds to them upon request.

Dont's
1. Don't send without a clear understanding of Who, When, and Where.
2. Don't send more than you can afford to lose.
3. Don't feel pressured.
4. Don't disappear if something goes wrong.

Do's
1. Do some checking beforehand.
2. Do stick with small amounts, especially at first.
3. Do communicate with you partner.
4. Do save all communications; emails, IM transcripts, confirmations, etc.

You sent, but did not receive
Ask yourself these questions.
1. Has sufficient time elapsed?
2. Has your partner stopped communicating?
3. Did you save all email confirmations?

Keep in mind that this transaction was a private agreement between two consenting adults. This site will not be able to get your money back for you.

If you communicated using only this forum, then the members here will be able to review the transaction. We might be able to come up with a suggestion or two.

If you used any IM or email, we might be able to glean something from that that could help you. If not, then at least we'll be alerted, and likely save someone else from loss.

There are many pluses to inter-site trading. It can be easily accomplished with the right mixture of common sense and due diligence.

Good luck at the tables!