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UFC 246: McGregor vs. Cowboy

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 24 2019 03:38. Posts 13044

Date: Saturday, January 18
Preliminary Card (ESPN+): 00:30 LP.net / 3:30pm PST / 4:30pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN): 2:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (ESPN): 4:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://crackstreams.com/mma/2/




Main Card (ESPN+)

Conor McGregor (21-4) vs. Donald Cerrone (36-13) (Welterweight)
Anthony Pettis (22-9) vs. Carlos Diego Ferreira (16-2) (Lightweight)
Claudia Gadelha (17-4) vs. Alexa Grasso (11-3) (Women's Strawweight)
Holly Holm (12-5) vs. Raquel Pennington (10-7) (Women's Bantamweight)
Andre Fili (20-6) vs. Sodiq Yusuff (10-1) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (ESPN)

Roxanne Modafferi (23-16) vs. Maycee Barber (8-0) (Women's Flyweight)
Nasrat Haqparast (11-2) vs. Drew Dober (21-9) (Lightweight)
Grant Dawson (14-1) vs. Chas Skelly (18-4) (Featherweight)
Aleksei Oleinik (57-13-1) vs. Maurice Greene (8-3) (Heavyweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Tim Elliott (15-9-1) vs. Askar Askarov (10-0-1) (Flyweight)
Brian Kelleher (19-10) vs. Ode Osbourne (6-2) (Bantamweight)
Sabina Mazo (7-1) vs. JJ Aldrich (8-3) (Women's Flyweight)

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 24 2019 03:41. Posts 13044



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First impression of the match-ups:

• McGregor > Cerrone
• CDF > Pettis
• Gadelha > Grasso
• Holm > Pennington
• Fili vs. Yusuff (dunno)
• Barber > Modafferi
• Haqparast > Dober
• Dawson > Skelly
• Greene > Oleinik
• Askarov > Elliott
• Kelleher vs. Osbourne (dunno)
• Mazo vs. Aldrich (dunno)

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cariadon   Estonia. Dec 26 2019 16:19. Posts 4019

Cerrone looks like a bum on that poster.


PuertoRican   United States. Dec 26 2019 21:23. Posts 13044

By the way, I will be flying out to Vegas for this event. If any of you plan to be there, let me know.

I met up with a couple of MMA bettors from Sherdog when I was in Vegas for UFC 245. It was fun to break down fights and sweat the fights together.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 30 2019 00:22. Posts 9634

that poster is not kind to Cerrone at all

also... welterweight fight, da fuck?

I'd normally say McGregor takes this, but I honestly don;t see him having the motivation anymore. No idea why he s back, he s made millions and accomplished his goals, I wouldn't feel too confident about him, while Cerrone legitimately just loves fighting

 Last edit: 30/12/2019 00:24

PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2019 00:52. Posts 13044



  On December 29 2019 23:22 Spitfiree wrote:
that poster is not kind to Cerrone at all

also... welterweight fight, da fuck?

I'd normally say McGregor takes this, but I honestly don;t see him having the motivation anymore. No idea why he s back, he s made millions and accomplished his goals, I wouldn't feel too confident about him, while Cerrone legitimately just loves fighting


- Cowboy loves to fight.
- Conor has made millions, and the only reason why he would return is because he, too, loves to fight.
- Both of these guys are natural 155ers, so it makes sense for both of them not to cut weight and fight at 170 instead. That being said, Cowboy is better at 170 than 155.

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 30/12/2019 00:58

rOm   Canada. Dec 30 2019 20:24. Posts 60


  On December 29 2019 23:22 Spitfiree wrote:

No idea why he s back, he s made millions and accomplished his goals, I wouldn't feel too confident about him, while Cerrone legitimately just loves fighting



My best guess is that his new venture (Proper 12) is an extremely capital intensive business, and without his checks and free marketing via the UFC, this venture becomes unfeasible.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 30 2019 22:40. Posts 9634

Going to enjoy the fight regardless.. should be a fun one

Don't think he has as huge negotiation weigh nowadays though after Khabib smacked his ass and him being away for practically 3 years (excluding the Khabib fight)

 Last edit: 30/12/2019 22:41

Into Infinity   United States. Jan 01 2020 12:27. Posts 1884

dont see a world where clawja beats grasso


PuertoRican   United States. Jan 02 2020 07:44. Posts 13044


  On January 01 2020 11:27 Into Infinity wrote:
dont see a world where clawja beats grasso


You should meet me in Vegas for this card. You will be able to get +100 or better on Grasso's money line on fight day.

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Into Infinity   United States. Jan 02 2020 22:23. Posts 1884


  On January 02 2020 06:44 PuertoRican wrote:
Show nested quote +


You should meet me in Vegas for this card. You will be able to get +100 or better on Grasso's money line on fight day.


enlighten me.

 Last edit: 02/01/2020 22:33

PuertoRican   United States. Jan 03 2020 00:44. Posts 13044


  On January 01 2020 11:27 Into Infinity wrote:
dont see a world where clawja beats grasso



  On January 02 2020 21:23 Into Infinity wrote:
Show nested quote +



enlighten me.


You essentially said that Grasso beats Claudia.

If you feel really strong about Grasso beating Claudia, then you should go to Las Vegas and place a big bet on Grasso over Claudia, as Grasso's money line will be at least +100 on fight day.

I will be in Las Vegas for this card, so if you want to meet up with me and a couple of other guys I know from Sherdog, you can chill with us and watch + bet on the fights while we eat and drink.

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Into Infinity   United States. Jan 03 2020 01:40. Posts 1884

lol im an idiot for taking your first response as you saying i don't know what im talking about


traxamillion   United States. Jan 03 2020 17:43. Posts 10468

I might be out there to sweat the fights, if I am I will let you guys know.

I imagine McGregor by 1st round finish is the favored result (-105 or more)


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 04 2020 03:35. Posts 9634

Ehh they are both counter-strikers and both like to establish their range, McGregor won't have a size advantage ... and even if he does he's not going to be much bigger, so he can't come out and be too overly aggressive right off the bat


PuertoRican   United States. Jan 04 2020 09:18. Posts 13044


  On January 03 2020 16:43 traxamillion wrote:
I might be out there to sweat the fights, if I am I will let you guys know.


Sounds good.

If you end up going, send me your phone number and real name via PM, and I'll text you so we can meet up.

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iakim322   United States. Jan 07 2020 09:18. Posts 1335

Like Holm and Gadelha odds. I think Holly just matches up really well vs Pennington and would win 8 of 10 even though the actual overall skill difference isn't that much. But I've been pretty bad recently so Raquel probably wins

Barber is a -1000 favorite. Haven't seen that in MMA in awhile. Probably justified

Conor within 2 if he's in form


PuertoRican   United States. Jan 10 2020 06:14. Posts 13044

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Into Infinity   United States. Jan 11 2020 08:06. Posts 1884

i actually thought the fight would be a lot closer than what people were speculating, something along the lines of 60/40 in favor of conor. then i rewatched cowboys recent fights since they were uploaded to youtube and immediately changed my mind.

i still think donald is probably the value bet but fuck i'd hate betting on him. i can see him winning if it somehow ends up on the ground early, like the olivera and perry fights

conor > cowboy
holm > pennington
grasso > gadelha
ferreira > pettis
barber > roxy
gastelum jr > dober

not sure what it is but something about macey barber makes me not like her; she'll probably cruise to a title shot then get demolished by valentina.

 Last edit: 11/01/2020 08:13

whammbot   Belarus. Jan 11 2020 14:25. Posts 518

Conor's worst enemy is cardio. The man could fight Henry Cejudo and lose in 5 rounds. If Conor had 5 good rounds in his tank he can beat anyone and everyone in LW, could probably be WW champion even. If his cardio is much worse now because of the layoff, he'll be having a tough time getting the FW belt


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 12 2020 13:58. Posts 9634

don't understand how the layoff would impact his cardio ... he either improves it in training or doesn't but the idea of him not fighting having much to do with that is confusing

there will be no weigh cut related fatigue now as well

 Last edit: 12/01/2020 14:00

PuertoRican   United States. Jan 12 2020 23:47. Posts 13044




Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 15/01/2020 05:14

whammbot   Belarus. Jan 15 2020 01:30. Posts 518


  On January 12 2020 12:58 Spitfiree wrote:
don't understand how the layoff would impact his cardio ... he either improves it in training or doesn't but the idea of him not fighting having much to do with that is confusing

there will be no weigh cut related fatigue now as well



That's because fight cardio is way different from training cardio. Conor can last 18 rounds even in hard training (ive seen videos and he brags about it constantly) but in actual fights breathing is way heavier and harder to regulate, pressure is tremendous and there are zero breaks unlike in sparring. Conor fades sharply after the 2nd round and unless he manages it well or his opponent doesn't put it on him it just gets worse and worse. He got lucky Nate went HAM on him in round 3 of the 2nd fight thinking he'd get finished and surprisingly winded himself out as well which gave COnor enough time to get back on track. I honestly believe Nate could've easily won the rematch had he paced himself in the 3rd and not try to finish Conor.

People like Tony F and Nate who are naturally gifted with gas tanks are like Conor's opposite because his game relies heavily on hurting opponents early while he's got a full tank of gas


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 17 2020 00:45. Posts 9634

I mean Nate won the fight according to the majority of websites, judges screwed him imo too


I guess it makes sense on how your body reacts pumping blood in those two situations


Also seems like McGregor won the mental battle again ... just in a VERY different manner this time. I'm not sure Cerrone even realizes it

 Last edit: 17/01/2020 00:46

Baalim   Mexico. Jan 17 2020 01:26. Posts 34250

how did he win the mental battle? I haven't been following the prefight trashtalk

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PuertoRican   United States. Jan 17 2020 05:07. Posts 13044


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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 17 2020 09:49. Posts 9634


  On January 17 2020 00:26 Baalim wrote:
how did he win the mental battle? I haven't been following the prefight trashtalk



I've just seen the press conference and it might be a crazy idea. So Conor is actually NOT trash talking whatsoever, he s won the batttle by... making Donald think he s doing him a favor almost fighting him, I got to believe this cause of 2 moments during the press conference:
1) when a journalist asked Donald something along the lines whether or not Conor thinks he s basically a bum that he will smash ... except in a polite manner - Conor instantly start being loud and diverts the topic,hijacking the journalists moment to defuse the tension, Donald still gets to answer the question 30s later except its in a much different 'setup'

2)when they face off, Donald goes with a big smile and makes a funny joke like 'u re 1 inch shorter' - Conor s not playing any games and is pretty serious plus makes Donald take a few steps back, even though he is the bigger dude ...


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 18 2020 02:50. Posts 9634




When he talks about 'boxing title' does he realize that Canelo and Golovkin are the two guys that dominate all weights he's compatible with and they will both absolutely take his soul out in a boxing match lol

 Last edit: 18/01/2020 03:01

PuertoRican   United States. Jan 18 2020 18:50. Posts 13044




$1800 slot machine win.

As for my bets on this card, my only serious bet thus far is $200 on Fili +120. I have several small fliers on props and stuff.

I'm looking to add $100 to Holm. Just waiting to see if her line improves.

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Into Infinity   United States. Jan 19 2020 04:09. Posts 1884

nice win

barber got exposed pretty hard


whammbot   Belarus. Jan 19 2020 05:24. Posts 518

give this russian a glass o water ffs lol


PuertoRican   United States. Jan 19 2020 08:51. Posts 13044

Barber is so bad when she isn't dominating her opponent.

Great job by Roxanne.

I ended up +$194. Two fights I wanted to make another couple hundred on were canceled, so that sucks.

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Into Infinity   United States. Jan 19 2020 08:56. Posts 1884

dumb fight


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jan 19 2020 11:55. Posts 9634

damn Cerrone basically lost in around 5 seconds


SpasticInk   Sweden. Jan 19 2020 14:45. Posts 6298

How much was the difference in weight just before the match? (not the weight in 24 hours before)


 



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