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UFC 231: Holloway vs. Ortega

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 05 2018 07:36. Posts 11210

Date: Saturday, December 8
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 00:15 LP.net / 3:15pm PST / 6:15pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 2:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 4:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
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Main Card (PPV)

Max Holloway (19-3) vs. Brian Ortega (14-0) (Featherweight Championship)
Valentina Shevchenko (15-3) vs. Joanna Jedrzejczyk (15-2) (Women's Flyweight Championship)
Alex Oliveira (19-5-1) vs. Gunnar Nelson (16-3-1) (Welterweight)
Hakeem Dawodu (8-1-1) vs. Kyle Bochniak (8-3) (Featherweight)
Jimi Manuwa (17-4) vs. Thiago Santos (19-6) (Light Heavyweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Claudia Gadelha (16-3) vs. Nina Ansaroff (9-5) (Women's Strawweight)
Katlyn Chookagian (11-1) vs. Jessica Eye (13-6) (Women's Flyweight)
Eryk Anders (11-2) vs. Elias Theodorou (15-2) (Middleweight)
Olivier Aubin-Mercier (11-3) vs. Gilbert Burns (13-3) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Devin Clark (9-2) vs. Aleksandar Rakic (10-1) (Light Heavyweight)
Brad Katona (7-0) vs. Matthew Lopez (10-3) (Bantamweight)
Chad Laprise (13-3) vs. Dhiego Lima (12-7) (Welterweight)
Carlos Diego Ferreira (13-2) vs. Jesse Ronson (20-8) (Lightweight)

Other

- Antonio Carlos Junior and The Ultimate Fighter: Nations middleweight winner Elias Theodorou was initially scheduled to take place at UFC Fight Night: Santos vs. Anders. However, Junior pulled out on August 28 due to injury. The pairing was then rescheduled for this event. In turn, on September 13, it was reported that Junior was forced to withdraw as a surgery is required to treat the injury that caused the first cancellation of this bout. On October 1, it was reported that Eryk Anders would replace him.
- A featherweight bout between Renato Moicano and Mirsad Bektic was expected to take place at the event. However, Bektic was forced out of the bout due to an undisclosed injury on November 15. In turn, Moicano is not expected to compete and instead will serve as a "replacement" option in the event that one of the headlining participants is unable to fight at the event.
- John Makdessi was expected to face Carlos Diego Ferreira at the event. However, Makdessi pulled out of the fight on November 28 and was replaced by returning veteran Jesse Ronson that same day.

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Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 09/12/2018 00:11

PuertoRican   United States. Dec 05 2018 07:41. Posts 11210







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First impression of the match-ups:

• Ortega > Holloway
• Shevchenko > Jedrzejczyk
• Oliveira > Nelson
• Bochniak > Dawodu
• Santos > Manuwa
• Gadelha > Ansaroff
• Chookagian > Eye
• Theodorou > Anders
• Mercier > Burns
• Rakic > Clark
• Lopez > Katona
• Laprise > Lima
• Ferreira > Ronson

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[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Dec 05 2018 14:48. Posts 1569

Can't wait for this.

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alejandicto   . Dec 05 2018 18:56. Posts 765

Nice card

I am gonna bet on Holloway, Nelson and Manuwa


Baalim   Mexico. Dec 05 2018 21:32. Posts 32244


  On December 05 2018 06:41 PuertoRican wrote:


First impression of the match-ups:

• Ortega > Holloway
• Shevchenko > Jedrzejczyk




Really ortega > holloway, why?


I also think Shevchenko will beat Jedrzejzyk

... lol those lastnames are hard to spell

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 05 2018 23:37. Posts 8452

I mean Shevchenko is 3-0 vs Jedrejzcyk and its not like the MMA rules will change much. It's not like Joanna grapples or clinches. It would be such a bad idea to try to clinch with Shevchenko, considering she seems to be so much stronger, she could probably brute force herself in a better position every time

If Holloway comes out with his A game I dont see Ortega winning, unless he somehow manages to be in his face all the time or throw a random 1 hit KO. Then again Holloway most likely s gonna have a super hard weight cut... Media trying to push Ortega with the "only guy to ever KO Frankie Edgar" ... Frankie Edgar is 37 fuckin years old. He might be an absolute legend, but age is age.

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 06 2018 03:43. Posts 11210


  On December 05 2018 20:32 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



Really ortega > holloway, why?


I also think Shevchenko will beat Jedrzejzyk

... lol those lastnames are hard to spell

- Ortega is probably 1 inch shorter or so (UFC/Wikipedia shows 5'8, but I think that's wrong)
- Both have the same reach (Max has short arms for being 5'11)
- Ortega has the grappling advantage by a large amount and doesn't need wrestling to get it to the mat (his wrestling sucks, but he has multiple ways to get an opponent down)
- Max starts slow, which benefits Ortega
- Ortega striking has gotten better; it's not as good as Max's and Max has more output, but Ortega's MMA striking is underrated
- Ortega has a great chin, while Max relies on volume strikes
- Max needs to fight on the outside the entire time to win. If he wins, I think it will be by decision.
- Max pulled out of his last fight against Ortega in July 2018 cuz he had "concussion like symptoms." Nobody really knows the truth. If Max is even just 1% worse because of what happened in July, it opens another door for Ortega. If I was betting Max to win, I'd be worried about my bet cuz I don't know if he is going into this fight at 100% health or not.

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lucky331   . Dec 06 2018 04:04. Posts 1066


  On December 05 2018 20:32 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



Really ortega > holloway, why?




because mexicans are tough as nails. viva mexico!

no sarcasm.


Baalim   Mexico. Dec 06 2018 08:35. Posts 32244


  On December 05 2018 22:37 Spitfiree wrote:
I mean Shevchenko is 3-0 vs Jedrejzcyk and its not like the MMA rules will change much.



what are you talking about?

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 06 2018 10:07. Posts 8452

Shevchenko is like a 10 time Muay Thai world champ, she met Jedrejzcyk 3 times and beat her all 3 times.


iakim322   United States. Dec 06 2018 18:09. Posts 1284

Valentina had been training since she was younger and was a lot more experienced than Joanna at the time who was relatively young in combat sports. And yes MMA rules do change the fight even if it's contested mostly on the feet. With that said, I think Valentina still wins but I also think Joanna is going to surprise most with a good performance

Actually see Max getting a late stoppage in the main. As long as his health issues are behind him

Manuwa for the upset


[GiTM]-Ace   United States. Dec 06 2018 22:38. Posts 1569

i think schevchenko crushes joanna too.

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lucky331   . Dec 07 2018 05:23. Posts 1066

don't know about crush. it will be close. there's value in the polish girl.


drone666   Brasil. Dec 07 2018 08:23. Posts 1599

I dont think it will be close, JJ usually gets hit a lot, doesnt seem to have a very good distance awareness, and Valentina is a master here


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 07 2018 11:16. Posts 8452





Max looks pretty healthy so far, lets see the weigh ins later today

 Last edit: 07/12/2018 12:57

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 07 2018 17:38. Posts 8452



Weigh ins

Holloway looks pretty good.

 Last edit: 07/12/2018 17:39

iakim322   United States. Dec 07 2018 20:45. Posts 1284

Ironically I thought Ortega was the one who looked drained on the scale and Max looked fine. Never seen Ortega weigh in before though so maybe that's normal for him

Joanna looked great not having to cut to 115. Too bad for her that the judges gave Nunes the close win vs Valentina otherwise Valentina would've stayed at 135 and Joanna prob could've had a stranglehold on the weight class she actually belonged at this entire time


lucky331   . Dec 08 2018 01:57. Posts 1066


  On December 07 2018 07:23 drone666 wrote:
I dont think it will be close, JJ usually gets hit a lot, doesnt seem to have a very good distance awareness, and Valentina is a master here



true. but we'll see. excited for this one nonetheless


PuertoRican   United States. Dec 08 2018 04:14. Posts 11210




Max Holloway (144.5) vs. Brian Ortega (144.75)
Valentina Shevchenko (123.5) vs. Joanna Jedrzejczyk (123.75)
Alex Oliveira (171) vs. Gunnar Nelson (170.25)
Hakeem Dawodu (145.75) vs. Kyle Bochniak (145)
Jimi Manuwa (204.75) vs. Thiago Santos (205.75)
Claudia Gadelha (115.5) vs. Nina Ansaroff (115.25)
Katlyn Chookagian (125.75) vs. Jessica Eye (126)
Eryk Anders (186) vs. Elias Theodorou (184.5)
Olivier Aubin-Mercier (155.75) vs. Gilbert Burns (155.75)
Devin Clark (205) vs. Aleksandar Rakic (206)
Brad Katona (135.5) vs. Matthew Lopez (135.5)
Chad Laprise (171) vs. Dhiego Lima (170.25)
Kyle Nelson (155.5) vs. Diego Ferreira (155.75)

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 09 2018 00:06. Posts 11210



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My final picks:

• Ortega > Holloway
• Shevchenko > Jedrzejczyk
• Oliveira > Nelson
• Bochniak > Dawodu
• Manuwa > Santos
• Gadelha > Ansaroff
• Chookagian > Eye
• Theodorou > Anders
• Burns > Mercier
• Rakic > Clark
• Lopez > Katona
• Laprise > Lima
• Ferreira > Nelson

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