Nofap bet

Just do no fap. The libido is a mosquito buzzing around. It will pass. A mosquito, my libido.

The first is:

Happiest man on the planet but don't call him that

The second is Kurt Cobain.

I got 7 months of no fap one time. I used to be in the shower horny laughing singing "a mosquito, my libido, yeah!" Then it just becomes kind of natural. I don't remember any profound differences either fapping or not fapping. Fapping quells sexual tension, feels like it makes me a bit calmer, and seems like it helps me fall asleep. No fap I probably have a bit more energy and I don't have to worry about what I jizz on and I am not wasting time watching pornography. That may or may not be illusory experience + bro science.

Have at it.... I mean have at it not having at it.

I may join you. I don't like being attracted by pornography and it is really just compulsion. The liberation through orgasm is not real. There is no freedom there. Only minor temporary pleasure.

Good luck with everything~

@rikd my motivation for this is not for some sort of self discovery or happiness journey like that article. Not even really about wasting time either.
@puertorican thanks

I'll write as a comment on this blog post something I decide on and freeroll some charity or something. Want something to keep me accountable.

On July 21 2018 11:04 hiems wrote: Want something to keep me accountable.

oh wow look it's another santafairy troll post the guy we know pretty much 0 irl information about.

I'll do it jerking off a lot since I stopped cigarettes

^ yea man quit. iirc your alot younger than me so wise choice.

don't want to book the bet against you. I think its better to just each just pick some charity to contribute to if you lose the bet. I having a bit of trouble deciding which charity at the moment.

I'm going to start with $500 bet for 2 months nofap to some organization I haven't decided yet. If I make it I'll still donate some smaller amount.

ok yeah 500 over 2 months.

You better provide pics of your ball sack.

Need to make sure you don't look empty/drained at any point.

Libido is like a buzzing mosquito, let it pass (charity)

Okay I'm starting today, if I fail I'll make a post then take a screenshot of the receipt showing donations to charity

@PuertoRican Haha
@rikd still not sure about which charity

Yea I'll do the same. GL~

Let's start a discussion about charity:

The reason I like Karuna-Sechen is that there is only 9% overhead on the gross donations. 100% of the money donated goes to the projects not administration, bureaucracy, or higher level people in the organization. Hell, the guy who founded it is a Buddhist monk who gives all the profits from his books to this charity (likely covering overhead).

"With your help, we will:

-Plant kitchen gardens to fight malnutrition
-Offer vocational training and adult education to under-served women.
-Build, renovate and/or support schools and childcare centers in remote villages in India and Nepal
-Increase the number of mobile medical clinics in Nepal and India
-Install solar lighting systems in remote village households
-Build a school in a remote mountain area is Nepal
And more…"

What charities are you thinking of donating to hiems? (so I can try to tear them apart)

I was just on the phone with my brother talking about this. Pelotonia is one him and his wife put a lot of money into but it's basically for cancer research so basically a charity to help rich people maybe live longer and the pharmaceuticals to clean up. It sound pretty horrible.

Many charities are not that great so it is important to not support them and support the charities that are doing great. I also like hearing about great charities so ¡Vamos!

^ I think I will just decide later, thanks tho.

Read up on GiveWell before you decide.

Day 1 had a weed and Adderall relapse dream, weird start lol.

Are you in recovery Rinny?

I was never compulsive about other stuff besides weed, didn't like alcohol that much. I quit weed, Buddhism and yoga say not to do intoxicants so I stopped drinking as well. I basically just try to do what my Buddha and yoga books tell me to do now, that's my life plan. I like the idea from AA of praying to a higher power even if you don't really believe in it. At first I would say "buddha" in my head and have like a logical construct that I was praying to an idea of higer ideals or blah blah blah but I would end up just saying "God" when I tried to pray so now I just say god and try not to think about it too much.

I don't really think of myself as being "in recovery" because from an eastern perspective their isn't much distinction between drug addiction and any other attachments so I don't really think of my drug stuff as that different from attachment to jerking off, or external validation.

Actually what I've come to realize about drugs is it's actually a blessing in a way because you can just not do drugs. With all of our other attachments things aren't as clear.

Yeah, I hear you man. My suffering and craving can show up in almost any activity. Tinder, jerking off, posting blogs, food, etc. I totally agree on the external validation. We are grasping at pleasure. It never truly works. May all beings be happy, may all beings be at ease, may all beings be free of suffering, may all beings reduce dissatisfaction, may all beings find peace, may all beings find serenity. That was my loving-kindness meditation "mantra" this morning.

Yeah, totally agree on substances. I just abstain and it is pretty clear. On the ones I listed above I can just abstain except for food. Food wise I just do my best to eat enough and not use it as a pleasure or anesthetic. Which is really difficult to do. If my mom makes a delicious sweet potato, carrot, mango, ginger curry it is going to taste amazing and be pleasurable to eat and I am going to crave a second serving or more pleasurable food. I was out at a nice restaurant and had a delicious vegetarian pasta and I immediately want to run off to my favorite ice cream shop for a gooey butter cake on a waffle cone. I think ideally everyone eats a vegan diet but I have found for me that a mostly vegan with some vegetarian is where I am at right now. I don't really eat eggs, I have found a pea milk (ripple) that is pretty good so I don't drink milk, but cheese and ice cream seem to get me. Not that I am eating a lot of it but if a dish has some pesto in it or some asiago cheese or feta cheese I will just eat it as the chef intended. At home I eat almost entirely vegan unless my mom cooks up a vegetarian lasagna or something. Oh, I still eat fried food. Not as much but many times the only thing I can get on the menu is fried oysters and at that point many times I just get fries on the side. I never bother to ask if it is fried in peanut oil or not and that technically wouldn't matter anyway as other meats would be fried in the same frier?

Rinny, you are in the USA you might like Refuge Recovery. It is a Buddhist path to recovery. This is what it is branded (if you don't like the whole "recovery" idea). It is basically learning Buddhism as it relates to addiction as it relates to suffering and craving. Many times they are held in yoga studios. I have found a lot of really cool and knowledgable people there. In a meeting you go over the 4 noble truths, the eightfold path, then there is meditation, and then you typically read out of the Refuge Recovery book and discuss what you read or just discuss meditation, Buddhism and spirituality in general. Here is a Meeting Finder if you are interested. If anything it is nice to get out of the house and practice meditation and get to know some people with their own voices and gazes and stories who are on somewhat similar journeys. You can help people. People can help you. You never really can predict how it will happen exactly it just does.

Food never goes away. you can live on a monastery, abstain from sex, earning and handling money, stop talking but at the end of the day you gotta fucking eat. I use food as a drug a lot too. Plant based veganism is soft of like being food sober, but then I can get high off feeling high and mighty. At the end of the day it'll come down to your internal state.

Yeah I know about this org. I read noah levine's(founder) book and I related to it a lot because I was really into punk growing up. There's an org near me that meets on thursday but I haven't attended.

I never knew you were strong in the Buddhism Rinny or the fact that you are an ex-problem marijuana smoker (me too).

Maybe give the RR book a go and see if you like it or drop into a meeting one day or not. It's really whatever.

Oh great another RiKD blog

Meh. Not really. I am just trying to maybe help someone a little bit.

It's all related anyway.

I have an idea that hiems is just doing no fap to like have more sexual energy and to be better with women. That's why most do it. I think nofap is wise regardless of the motivations.

The thread was kind of tailing off. It sounds like Rinny is doing nofap because of suffering and craving and is also trying to curtail any substance use. Rinny, I actually had a drinking dream last night. For some reason I just started drinking bourbon and couldn't stop. Oh, I was working at a gas station and I didn't like it. I just left and started drinking bourbon. I drank about the whole bottle and was like "fuck" what do I do with the bottle my parents are going to be home soon. Everyone is coming home soon and they are going to know that I am drunk. I felt remorse. It was crazy. It felt real. Relapse dreams just mean you are the real McCoy and we need to continue to follow the path. Even one Refuge Recovery meeting a week would probably be beneficial.

^Kind of. I last too long in bed lately. Tbh I'd be more comfortable talking about it if there weren't ppl here just looking to troll.

On July 28 2018 07:34 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Oh great another RiKD blog

I actually agree with this.

On July 28 2018 13:33 RiKD wrote: Meh. Not really. I am just trying to maybe help someone a little bit. The thread was kind of tailing off.

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On July 28 2018 16:54 hiems wrote: ^Kind of. I last too long in bed lately. Tbh I'd be more comfortable talking about it if there weren't ppl here just looking to troll.

Well, if you really want someone to talk to you can PM me. I am not a certified therapist or anything like that but I am here to be of service.

It is wise to not share too much in blogs. There is no reason to unveil. Really poor medium for that. Transparency on social media and blogs is unwise.

On July 28 2018 22:11 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2018 07:34 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Oh great another RiKD blog I actually agree with this.   On July 28 2018 13:33 RiKD wrote: Meh. Not really. I am just trying to maybe help someone a little bit. The thread was kind of tailing off. [ ] thread [x] blog

Blogs and threads have a tendency to ebb and flow. Recovery and Buddhism is off topic but not THAT off topic. People with an issue with pornography and masturbation could use recovery and Buddhism. Your particular case doesn't sound like a particular issue with suffering and craving and addiction.

So, it was my fault that the thread got derailed a bit. I apologize if it bothered people.

you might be one of the most annoying people ever.

the distinction between a blog and a thread is that blog is started by someone else so you kind of have to respect it a bit more and not steer the direction wherever you want it. its annoying that you keep making this insinuation that my motivation is somehow less wise than others' motivations, which is a ridiculous statement by itself but its more even annoying considering its my blog in the first place. in addition, its also annoying that after i flame you in your own blog about how you keep spamming the forum with blogs you stopped making as many blogs but then start spamming other threads with your own agenda which is pretty much the same thing.

Whatever dude. Stay in denial and dukkha (suffering) if you want. You strike me as a very confused individual. I don't know your motivations for nofap. You never told me or anyone on here. You are acting like a little brat whose birthday party isn't going how he imagined. "It's my blog and I can cry if I want to, cry if I want to, cry if I want to, you would be too if it happened to you..."

Quite frankly, Rinny was more interesting than you and we had a mini-discussion all of which would likely benefit you and anyone else dealing with suffering and craving.

sure im in suffering to some extent. i have more money than most people my age yet i def feel like its nowhere enough. i also have a desire to have a better life and instagram account or whatever else. but the difference between me and you is that i am very much aware of these things and in control of my life where as you had the same desires when you were younger when you had that big bankroll and you simply couldn't control yourself and pissed it all away "trying to make 2 million/year" or whatever. not everyone is batshit crazy like you are...im willing to work towards my goals. i am also willing to accept that there will be those that have more than i do.

its really crazy how arrogant you are in assuming that because other people didnt spend hundreds or even thousands of hours studying philosophy that they are idiots. especially when really the one who is most prone to suffering is you. ill stay in dukkha, you keep bagging those groceries.

ps. agree rinny is more interesting than me. also it was indeed my birthday a few days ago.

Whatever dude. It sounds like to me you are deeply delusional and confused. What will this "nowhere enough" amount of money get you? More ephemeral pleasures? What are you craving and grasping at? There are reasons you want to do nofap. You have built a castle of cards but the castle is not made of steel it is made of cards. You are not in control of your life. That is another delusion. What are your goals? Buy more fashionable clothing? Take dates to more expensive restaurants? Find an attractive woman you can have sex with or fall in love or have a relationship with? It's simply grasping. Are you capable of these things? Anyone can waste money on clothing. Anyone can feel like they are transcended on a night out at a sensory pleasing restaurant. Not everyone is in a position to have a sane dating life. The only thing that matters is cultivating an inner peace and freedom. Clothes and restaurants and women will never be enough.

I don't think you are an idiot. I think you are delusional and confused. It really feels like the only outcome is that you stay in dukkha until you feel enough of it. Until the dukkha is severe or intense enough nothing will change. That is a pretty predictable path for you to attack my occupation. I don't bag groceries but what's the difference? I have to work at this point to cover even the barest of necessities. I am not harming anyone and I get to eat food and have shelter (and health insurance, car, etc.). I strive to live as a hermit and/or within a monastery. That is not really reasonable at this point but I can reject the Western world to an extent. I don't know. We may not even be in the same ballpark. If you don't wish to be free of anything or experience peace and serenity with out grasping/craving/thirst this is just idle chatter but the fact that you are attempting nofap sends a different message. Get honest with yourself man.

so what should i do man? just give everything up and be a bum like you?

also i just don't understand why you are assuming those things about me. honestly i am pretty offended by it all. i don't understand at what point i said what i'd do with my money.

Nofap leads me to believe you are open to change. The rest of your posts do not.

The motivations behind nofap would dictate what I think you should do.

This idea of not having enough money is suffering and craving. Your idea of the good life might be misinformed. The fact that you put "have a better life and instagram account" in the same sentence there is a lot to be learned if you want to. What are your goals? I am sure almost all of them have something to do with achieving x so I can be happy. Most x, especially if they are dictated by Western culture/consumerism/neoliberalism, are not reliable. Cultivating inner happiness, altruism, and all together spending time wisely are what matters.

Maybe you are addicted to freaks who suck good dick? There is the initial rush, the smooth burn, the peak of climax, a bit of an afterglow and then darkness. We crave a better high or we feel bad or down so we do it again. The craving is satiated but for moments if at all. The emptiness is worse than the fleeting orgasm. It is a tough cycle to break. Abstinence is typically the only way or until sane guidelines are put into place. That can be sort of scaled into any situation. What is enough? It has to be asked. Even if you got a 10% raise what are you going to do with that money? Consume more? Why? Be honest about what makes you happy and what is enough? Is it snorting coke and banging that hooker in that motel or having some tea with a friend?

I am turning into a "bum" simply because as I get deeper into the teachings I realize the wisdom in renunciation. I got rid of almost my entire wardrobe. Most of it is very nice luxury stuff. I had no feelings of remorse or of loss. I felt phenomenal. This trend has been true in all cases so far.

The whole reason I got into Buddhism in the first place was regarding substances. Then I realized it plays into every aspect of my life. Substances is an easy one because I can just abstain and it is pretty clear. Sex, food, money, clothing are not nearly as clear cut. Some guidelines must be set up.

Sex - I am currently celibate from sex and masturbation and am happy I went this route. No more Tinder bullshit, craving, grasping. The perspective changes in a good way for me.

Food - Here is one where I have never experienced obesity or anorexia/bulemia. I still have issues with food but as long as I keep it vegetarian and eat just enough I can't really go wrong.

Money - I only work to cover basic necessities. After that I either work less or give more to worthwhile charity. I prefer to work less and give more (time) to worthwhile charity

Clothing - Matthieu Ricard has 2 robes, 2 sweaters, and 2 coats. I strive for that simplicity but have a bit more than that. If your goal is to be a young professional you will obviously want a "cool," and "appropriate" wardrobe. I am not telling anyone to quit their job but is it really necessary to go out and buy 4 trendy pairs of pants?

If you want to change you will change. If you don't want to change you won't.

Maybe you are addicted to freaks who suck good dick? There is the initial rush, the smooth burn, the peak of climax, a bit of an afterglow and then darkness. We crave a better high or we feel bad or down so we do it again. The craving is satiated but for moments if at all. The emptiness is worse than the fleeting orgasm. It is a tough cycle to break. Abstinence is typically the only way or until sane guidelines are put into place. That can be sort of scaled into any situation. What is enough? It has to be asked.

wtf ru talking about

Even if you got a 10% raise what are you going to do with that money? Consume more? Why? Be honest about what makes you happy and what is enough? Is it snorting coke and banging that hooker in that motel or having some tea with a friend?

wtf ru talking about

Money - I only work to cover basic necessities. After that I either work less or give more to worthwhile charity. I prefer to work less and give more (time) to worthwhile charity

wtf ru talking about ur parents support u

If your goal is to be a young professional you will obviously want a "cool," and "appropriate" wardrobe. I am not telling anyone to quit their job but is it really necessary to go out and buy 4 trendy pairs of pants?

again, wtf ru talking about. you really have no idea about my life.

dude you are fucking crazy.

It is apparent that you don't respect me. In fact, that should have been apparent long ago. Enough of this worthless chatter. You will be in my loving-kindness meditations tomorrow.

this is working really well for me everytime i want to jerk off i think 'hey im gonna have to let the fellas on the 2004 php board know i let them down" I've also decided I will light the 500 dollars on fire if i fail. this is like giving 500 dollars to everyone in the world who owns us currency because it reduces inflation.

yes seems like its an effective format. I might do more of these like some sort of learn how to make some food bet, etc.

lol. thats different. yea I kind of looked at that givewell list and felt kind of meh about it. I also hate doctors with a passion. I was thinking of giving it to some bums/poor kids when I'm in a foreign country or giving it to some people on liquidpoker that have low bankrolls.

good luck with the nofap. it gets easier as you get older lol

haha nah no way man. jesus what a bummer, lol.

2 weeks

* really feel the energy during my yoga practice, big clenching release movements have a sexual aspect to them

lol. never done yoga before.

2 weeks. wanted to bang the 22yo bartender yesterday. I acted / said some dumb shit tho lol. she was pretty hot. not sure if I had a shot.

don't know what to say otherwise, haha.

This is insanely hard.

I started August 1st. It was a bit challenging first few days, but it's been ridiculously easy after. I have to credit mindfulness meditation. Only exception is when I wake up or I'm still in that half-asleep state, since my dreams are fucking crazy erotic and often lucid. Those boners could kill someone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=W5Lg9P-VekA

I know it's 37 min. but he really covers it from all aspects. Specifically his "seeing, seeing" advice. It worked today at work. I didn't really get lost at all in lust so even though the store is full of attractive women the sexual tension/frustration didn't build. "Seeing, seeing." I tried it out on some pornography and I'll be more explicit than Yuttadhammo. I typically get to "seeing, seeing, pleasure, pleasure, erection, erection".... then I sort of see it for what it is. I start questioning why porn is so pleasurable? Yuttadhammo talks about that in the video. I was at the beach the other day too which can be a breeding ground for lust but I just saw the bodies for what they were bodies. Meat vessels. There was a shape of one nubile redhead that I became attached too but "seeing, seeing" and walking ahead it passed rather quickly.

I don't know if it was the same video or a different video but Yuttadhammo talked about the fallacy of people thinking pleasure is inherently good. Many times pleasure is not actually beneficial.