"Russian Daredevil" rooftop walking - Page 3

Lebowski, have you read Kafka's "A Hunger Artist"? If not, I recommend you do. It's a very short read. I think that there is a point to be made that these guys might, after all, be much like the hunger artist in that story.

On September 08 2015 13:20 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2015 15:53 Jamie217 wrote:   On September 01 2015 14:03 Nazgul wrote: I have trouble watching this too. Madness. I have no issue with them doing it though everyone should live their life as long as you don't harm others. Not sure what is retarded about having other priorities. My only issue is the possibility of them falling to the ground and injuring/killing someone... Although the probability of that happening is slim, it is definitely a non 0 % You guys are really not thinking about this very deeply. Virtually no one exists independently of others. There are always consequences to losing your life that affect other people. These people have friends, families, perhaps partners, you know? Let's find out just how honest you are about not having problems with this: would you support your own (hypothetical) kid doing it because "he's free to live his life how he wants"? Be honest. Most likely than not, what you really mean is: "as long as it doesn't affect me somehow, it's fine." Which is a poor justification for supporting anything.

There's a lot of things that I wouldn't support my own kid doing yet I have no issue with if people want to do it themselves. Drugs are a good example. I'm not saying that doing this can't hurt their family, nor do I think that is a good way to measure whether I'm ok with it.

I guess I would personally say that I'm mostly detached from it, because it's not close to me, but I wouldn't go as far as saying that I'm OK with it. I'm not OK with that guy falling off the crane because he had nothing better to do and was trying to be brave or impress people. I'm not OK with young impressionable minds being influenced by this movement and who will attempt to do the same things. If given the opportunity, I would try to discourage others from doing it, regardless of whether or not they are part of my family. Tragedy is tragedy whether or not I'm there to experience it.

+1 to lewbowski

this guy is definitely ballsy

Loco has a point, it does affect others but he's still "free" to live his life. You can't do so constantly worrying about what might happen etc.. otherwise you'll do nothing. Estimate risk, manage risk, expect fear & conquer fear. Still, what bothers me is that this is posted on instagram/youtube and might encourage other people (especially teens) to do the same sorta stuff. Like, it'll hardly encourage any on the scale of things but with 3+million views, his rep & social circle? Probably at least 10 kids tried it directly due to him. It's not only dangerous when you're up there, it's criminal tresspassing at the very least to go into buildings and do these kinds of things. It's easy to look at a guy like that who's obv very agile, strong & acrobatic and be encouraged to do something similar then fuck it up and end up painting the pavement.

On September 01 2015 14:03 Nazgul wrote: I have trouble watching this too. Madness. I have no issue with them doing it though everyone should live their life as long as you don't harm others. Not sure what is retarded about having other priorities.

I didnt expect support to my idea especially not from you, pleasant surprise

On September 08 2015 17:16 Loco wrote: I guess I would personally say that I'm mostly detached from it, because it's not close to me, but I wouldn't go as far as saying that I'm OK with it. I'm not OK with that guy falling off the crane because he had nothing better to do and was trying to be brave or impress people. I'm not OK with young impressionable minds being influenced by this movement and who will attempt to do the same things. If given the opportunity, I would try to discourage others from doing it, regardless of whether or not they are part of my family. Tragedy is tragedy whether or not I'm there to experience it.

I would discourage it too, If i saw it I would tell them to stop, that its not worth it but its ultimately their life and they are free to do whatever the fuck they want

lol at calling him retarded cuz he s entertaining himself in a dangerous manner - dont try to justify your lack of balls by calling others retarded

world isn't black or white .. get read

perhaps the guy should just go and sit in front of a TV instead of doing what feels right for him for your convenience - is that it ?
the chances of him falling are close to the chances of you giving cancer to someone cause of the CO2 emissions from your car

no its not something I would do either but im not the one to judge him or whatsoever

Ehh, I think you can definitely judge him, he's being pretty reckless and irresponsible for cheap thrills and because it's "cool". Not worth it for anyone with a level head. Do you think the 15 year old kids watching him don't judge him? But it's ok for the kid to since it's in a deluded positive light but we can't since it's bad to judge? Fuck him. Also, you can't state the world isn't black and white then tell us we think he should go sit infront of the TV wtf.. there's something inbetween there. I'd say the chance he falls is extremely high relative to other risks.

On September 09 2015 00:23 Spitfiree wrote: lol at calling him retarded cuz he s entertaining himself in a dangerous manner - dont try to justify your lack of balls by calling others retarded world isn't black or white .. get read perhaps the guy should just go and sit in front of a TV instead of doing what feels right for him for your convenience - is that it ? the chances of him falling are close to the chances of you giving cancer to someone cause of the CO2 emissions from your car no its not something I would do either but im not the one to judge him or whatsoever

So you can't call someone who likes to stick their head into the open mouths of crocodiles for fun retarded? There comes a point when it becomes reasonable to call certain acts retarded in terms of the pleasure they provide in relation to the type and amount of pleasure it provides. There does not need to be an exact formula for these kinds of things. If you're driving down an empty windy road at 100mph in a Honda Civic sure whatever we all speed for fun every now and then, if we hear later that you crashed because you lost control driving at 130mph down a windy road, well then that's what you get for being retarded. If you can't enjoy life without putting your life in serious danger then you obviously have some issues. No one wants to physically prevent this guy from doing what he want's, no one is saying that he has no balls, no one is trying to compare themselves to him in terms of balls either.

I swear man, some people are so full of bs in these forums, if your friend, son, or brother started doing flips on the ledges of of tall buildings out of nowhere your first thought is going to be "WTF are you doing!? Are you retarded or something?" Not "OMG you're such a free spirit, go on and do as you please and don't listen to anyone who tells you that what you're doing is retarded."

People are also assuming that "Oh you think jump on ledges is retarded?" "Oh you must be one of those guys that doesn't live life working a 9-5 in a small cubicle and then go home and play WOW all night."

Where the hell is all this coming from?

Why are people getting so offended and generalizing everyone who is criticizing this thrill seeker in the first place, jesus christ relax we're just calling him retarded, not trying to ban the whole world from walking on rooftops.

On September 08 2015 13:39 Loco wrote: Lebowski, have you read Kafka's "A Hunger Artist"? If not, I recommend you do. It's a very short read. I think that there is a point to be made that these guys might, after all, be much like the hunger artist in that story.

I just read it. Interesting read, I'm still not sure of what the story's main allegory is. It should have to do with a sarcastic take on the artistic world in general. I suppose the parallel you make to the russian daredevils has to do with the hunger artist's final words that he shouldn't be admired because in reality he just couldn't find food that he enjoyed (so he had no choice)? I'm not really sure of the analogy here.

While I wouldn't want people close to me to risk their lives for reasons I can't even understand, I have to give this to the crazy russian dudes:

they are fighting their own fear and winning. Maybe they have no choice, they're bored out of their minds otherwise etc, it doesn't matter. If they were scared first ( I have no reason to think otherwise), they made a giant step; perhaps to their deaths or to a purpose that we could argue is completely stupid, it still doesn't matter. The fear was there and it was overcome. Objections to admiring just this "daredevil" feature probably spring from focusing too much on the reason they do it and I don't understand why. Sure if we were talking about guys hijacking airplanes focusing on their courage would be stupid, but so many people in this forum are too eager to jump on the hatewagon, even if these russians have pretty much unknown/harmless for others motivations.

I have no great logical masterplan for what is objectively worth doing in one's life, or reasons why everyone should drag it down to his late 90s with caution. Yes these guys have families and girlfriends and they'll break their heart when they die etc but if you take this line of thinking too far it's pretty impossible to live at all and I guess people draw the line at different places. I somewhat know where I draw the line for me, but I don't think that it's a universal constant, more like a random occurance. One doesn't buy a motorcycle because he could kill a pedestrian or his mother if something bad happened, the other can't even get out because he could step on an ant and kill it.

Yes basing arguments on primal instincts is whats the best


and rofl at @ggplz 15yo kids argument ... i don't think its even worth answering to that

On September 08 2015 17:16 Loco wrote: I guess I would personally say that I'm mostly detached from it, because it's not close to me, but I wouldn't go as far as saying that I'm OK with it. I'm not OK with that guy falling off the crane because he had nothing better to do and was trying to be brave or impress people. I'm not OK with young impressionable minds being influenced by this movement and who will attempt to do the same things. If given the opportunity, I would try to discourage others from doing it, regardless of whether or not they are part of my family. Tragedy is tragedy whether or not I'm there to experience it.

I think this is the most sane and reasonable comment in this thread so far

and then there are others, not going to quote them and put them on blast, that are useless ones and just plain arrogant.

This is just attention-whoring taken to a new level, no ?

Thou, it was kinda exciting to watch the first time i saw it a long time ago

On September 09 2015 00:23 Spitfiree wrote: the chances of him falling are close to the chances of you giving cancer to someone cause of the CO2 emissions from your car

Indeed. Wait, what?

On September 09 2015 18:26 VanDerMeyde wrote: This is just attention-whoring taken to a new level, no ? Thou, it was kinda exciting to watch the first time i saw it a long time ago

It isnt attenting whoring nor cheap thrills, if you talked to these guys I bet they would tell you that its the best feeling and thing in their lives

Is there a collection of videos of ppl doing the same stuff but falling to their deaths? I'm kinda curious

I'm not entirely convinced that it's not cheap thrills. Sure it's the best thing in their lives, but a heroin addict will tell you the same about heroin. I remember reading about this in a Finnish newspaper some years ago, in Russia there's a whole subculture of young people who refuse alcohol and do stunts like these (kinda like straight edge, except that instead of fighting they do this). I couldn't help but wonder if getting drunk with alcohol instead of adrenalin was after all the more healthy choice.

On September 12 2015 05:03 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2015 18:26 VanDerMeyde wrote: This is just attention-whoring taken to a new level, no ? Thou, it was kinda exciting to watch the first time i saw it a long time ago It isnt attenting whoring nor cheap thrills, if you talked to these guys I bet they would tell you that its the best feeling and thing in their lives

Heroine addicts will tell you the same thing right up to the gutter. With these guys prob more like......down to the splatter ? badumm tsss

It's not that hard to pull it off. Unless you're afraid of heights. I've done more stupid than this when I was younger. But now I don't feel the need to prove anything by doing that. It's their way of life just let them do whatever the fuck they want. If they're confident, then they're nothing wrong with that. Either way it's way better than getting addicted to drugs.