UFC 174: Johnson vs. Bagautinov

Date: Saturday, June 14th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 18:00 LP.net / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (FX): 19:00 LP.net / 5:00pm PST / 8:00pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 21:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm PST
Live Streams: http://www.vipbox.tv (All MMA events are listed under the UFC button. Press the UFC button and you'll see the event in the list.)





Main Card (PPV)

Demetrious Johnson (19-2-1) vs. Ali Bagautinov (13-2) (Flyweight Championship)
Rory MacDonald (16-2) vs. Tyron Woodley (13-2) (Welterweight)
Ryan Bader (16-4) vs. Rafael Cavalcante (12-4) (Light Heavyweight)
Andrei Arlovski (21-10) vs. Brendan Schaub (10-3) (Heavyweight)
Ryan Jimmo (19-3) vs. Ovince St. Preux (15-5) (Light Heavyweight)

Preliminary Card (FX)

Daniel Sarafian (8-4) vs. Kiichi Kunimoto (16-5-2) (Welterweight)
Valerie Letourneau (5-3) vs. Elizabeth Phillips (4-1) (Women's Bantamweight)
Yves Jabouin (19-9) vs. Mike Easton (13-4) (Bantamweight)
Kajan Johnson (19-10-1) vs. Tae Hyun Bang (16-8) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Roland Delorme (9-2) vs. Michinori Tanaka (9-0) (Bantamweight)
Jason Saggo (9-1) vs. Josh Shockley (11-2) (Lightweight)

Other

- Germaine de Randamie was scheduled to face Milana Dudieva at the event. However, de Randamie was removed from the card due to an alleged visa issue restricting her travel to Canada. Promotional newcomer Valerie Letourneau was tabbed to face Dudieva. In turn, Dudieva pulled out of the bout as well and was replaced by Elizabeth Phillips.
- Unlike other recent events the preliminary card is being shown on FX instead of Fox Sports 1.

First thoughts:

• Johnson > Bagautinov (DJ via finish. Bagautinov is way too slow to beat DJ and Dodson. He was super hesitant against Lineker cuz of his 1-dimensional heavy handed boxing. This is a showcase fight for DJ to show how much more dominant he is than most of the division. Bagautinov only has a punchers chance, which is kinda ironic, considering his nickname is the "Puncher King." )
• Woodley > MacDonald
• Bader > Cavalcante (Kind of a close fight. Cavalcante has the better striking, while Bader has the better wrestling and cardio. Both guys can KO each other.)
• Schaub > Arlovski (Schaub opened up as the underdog for this fight, which is crazy. Too bad it was only on 5dimes and not Bookmaker.)
• Jimmo > OSP (Close fight here. OSP is slowly improving but, I expect Jimmo to know this and fight smart, and either look for a stoppage in round 3 or coast to a decision win.)
• Sarafian vs. Kunimoto (dunno)
• Letourneau vs. Phillips (dunno)
• Easton > Jabouin (Hard fight to call. Easton is the better overall fighter, but not by much. I can see Jabouin winning a close decision.)
• Johnson > Bang
• Tanaka > Delorme
• Saggo vs. Shockley (dunno)

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as "stabbed to face" and was like "WTF!".

Bets I am thinking:

- DJ inside distance +140 (DJ has become a finisher, he is always looking for the finish specially the submission but that line is not yet so I will wait)
- Rory Macdonald +120 (I think Tyron is good but he looked very bad against Shields)
- Bader -140 (I think this is a close fight but to me Bader seems to improve a little every fight, and he almost knock out Glover Teixeira)

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My only strongish opinions:

MM > Ali B - big time, will throw it in my parlays to make it more entertaining and because I just don't see him losing so I'm fine with the heavy odds.

RMac > Woodley - Close to a pickem in my head, but I'll go with the underdog for betting purposes in Rory - he should be able to keep the distance and I don't think he'll get out-grappled, and it's only a 3-rd fight so I don't think cardio will be an issue for either guy. Rory is a more well-rounded fighter and that should serve him well if it ever hits the ground. If R-Mac is smart, he's ready to mix in a heavy clinch game when Woodley tries to unload power punches to keep him guessing and once the pace slows down, it favors Rory.

Calvacante > Bader - I tend to think Cavalcante should get it done over Bader, VERY close fight but getting him as the underdog is just fine by me. I just feel like Bader is way chinnier than other very good wrestlers that Cavalcante has put away - King Mo, Yoel Romero, and he even rocked Hendo. His cardio isnt good, but against Thiago Silva he was clearly fighting very emotional and not smart so it looked even worse, which I don't foresee being an issue here. I expect Bader to get some TD's but won't be able to hold him down or do much damage with them.

Easton > Jabuin - Easton has more ways to win and a gnarly good chin. Jaboiun is a more technical kickboxer but as long as it's an MMA fight and not a sparring session, Easton should get it done via tko or decision.

On June 12 2014 18:12 soberstone wrote: My only strongish opinions: MM > Ali B - big time, will throw it in my parlays to make it more entertaining and because I just don't see him losing so I'm fine with the heavy odds. RMac > Woodley - Close to a pickem in my head, but I'll go with the underdog for betting purposes in Rory - he should be able to keep the distance and I don't think he'll get out-grappled, and it's only a 3-rd fight so I don't think cardio will be an issue for either guy. Rory is a more well-rounded fighter and that should serve him well if it ever hits the ground. If R-Mac is smart, he's ready to mix in a heavy clinch game when Woodley tries to unload power punches to keep him guessing and once the pace slows down, it favors Rory. Calvacante > Bader - I tend to think Cavalcante should get it done over Bader, VERY close fight but getting him as the underdog is just fine by me. I just feel like Bader is way chinnier than other very good wrestlers that Cavalcante has put away - King Mo, Yoel Romero, and he even rocked Hendo. His cardio isnt good, but against Thiago Silva he was clearly fighting very emotional and not smart so it looked even worse, which I don't foresee being an issue here. I expect Bader to get some TD's but won't be able to hold him down or do much damage with them. Easton > Jabuin - Easton has more ways to win and a gnarly good chin. Jaboiun is a more technical kickboxer but as long as it's an MMA fight and not a sparring session, Easton should get it done via tko or decision.

My favorite line on the card is Demetrious Johnson/Ali Bagautinov u4.5 +145. Johnson opened at +418 ITD, but it wasn't on the bookie I currently use.

I except DJ to be better than Ali in every area of MMA, which means that Ali literally only has a punchers chance. Since DJ is so much faster on the feet and attacks from all angles, I except him to stun Ali at some point and then finish the fight on the ground. Ali's only way to win is within the first 3 rounds, where he's still fresh and his power is still there. IMO, I don't think Ali will be dangerous at all in the 3rd round, so I give him the first 10 minutes to get the KO/TKO.

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Rory MacDonald vs. Tyron Woodley is an online bookies wet dream. Rory went as high as -165 to +145, while Tyron went from -165 to +125. The current line is even at -110 for both guys* on 5dimes. You can get Tyron at -103 at Bookmaker right now.

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On June 12 2014 18:12 soberstone wrote: My only strongish opinions: RMac > Woodley - Close to a pickem in my head, but I'll go with the underdog for betting purposes in Rory - he should be able to keep the distance and I don't think he'll get out-grappled, and it's only a 3-rd fight so I don't think cardio will be an issue for either guy. Rory is a more well-rounded fighter and that should serve him well if it ever hits the ground. If R-Mac is smart, he's ready to mix in a heavy clinch game when Woodley tries to unload power punches to keep him guessing and once the pace slows down, it favors Rory.

I think cardio would be an issue for only Woodley if it were a 5 round fight. The guy seems to be like many insanely ripped/muscled guys in that he's really explosive early and then starts to fade a bit. He faded as the fight went on against Nate Marquadt and I actually thought he was already starting to look pretty winded at the end of just a round and a half of his last fight with Condit before a great takedown spun out Condit's knee. Whereas Rory fights at a pretty measured pace. So I'd really like Rory in this if it were for 5. But as it is, I see a lot of 2 rounds to 1 decisions for Woodley if this were played over and over. Like you say tho, Rory's a pretty smart fighter. Rooting for him

I wasn't gonna bet this event due to school, but the opening lines for this event were wild. 8 out 11 or so of the fights had lines that were near even.

My bets and picks pre-live betting:

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These streams are really bad, does anyone have anything less laggy than vipbox?

This is on the FX channel, which you should have on your cable box.

aint got no cable -_-


these streams r better though

On June 14 2014 19:23 milkman wrote: aint got no cable -_- these streams r better though

http://www.bestsportgo.tv/20140607/vv-834623--53937b6b728581.98907767.html

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Managed to get a couple live bets in on Bang, which set me back to even. I had lost the first 2 fights of the night, as I took Shockley and chased on Delorme. Currently up $3.

I've never seen Mike Easton get tired like that. This is the best live-bet I've had in awhile.

Damn! Another sick live bet.

Letourneau +596 during round 1 $10
o2.5 rounds -125 during round 1 $35
Letourneau +177 during round 2 $10

Bookmaker is hella slow today with reacting to the actual fight! I love it!

Got Kunimoto +290 while he had Sarafian's back in a turtle position. I had also taken u2.5 -118 before the fight started. Sick day so far!

-$30 from that fight due to Jimmo being a mental midget.

Interesting decision..

LOL SCHAUB LOST LOL

was that decision correct?

Wow... I lucked out on that one. I originally had Schaub -130 $10 pre-fight, then bet Arlovski +195 $10 and Arlovski +177 during the fight. Arlovski was over +1000 during round 3, but I didn't touch it cuz I already felt like I had lost my money.

Schaub should have won that. It was his fault for not pushing the pace in the first 2 rounds. Arlovski won due to holding Schaub against the cage and looking busy, but he didn't even throw any strikes when he held Schaub against the cage.

Sick result...

i only watched rounds 1 and 2 and if 3 wasnt really even different that was bs

I cant see how he won by decision tbh..

ufc judges whats new

Arlovski won via cage control.

obv they didnt show big brown interview because for sure he's going off on that bad decision which he talks a lot about in the podcast

ufc judges pocketing larges bags of money with $$$ signs on them

anyone know the song woodley just walked out to?

Woodley just got exposed.

woodley aka punching bag

Im so glad I didnt bet on him

30-27 was generous

I want the last 4 hours of my life back.

Easy win for Demetrious Johnson. Unfortunately, since he didn't finish the fight, he still won't get much respect from the casual fans and will continue to do poorly when it comes to selling PPV's.

dont know why people dont like watching the midget division, I really enjoy watching all the top 4 FW fighting

I like the smaller weight classes too (for me, along the lines of... LW > WW > FW > BW > MW/LHW/FLW > HW ,,, there are some exceptions like JDS or Cain who make HW super worth watching, but on average HW is a horrible division to watch), but I think after how horrible most of the card was, my brain just couldnt handle a 5 round fight =.=

On June 15 2014 11:11 TianYuan wrote: I like the smaller weight classes too (for me, along the lines of... LW > WW > FW > BW > MW/LHW/FLW > HW ,,, there are some exceptions like JDS or Cain who make HW super worth watching, but on average HW is a horrible division to watch), but I think after how horrible most of the card was, my brain just couldnt handle a 5 round fight =.=

I usually like Mighty Mouse's fights, but I kept my headphones on and started surfing the internet after the 2nd round was over.

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Dana White: "For anybody to think [Schaub] got robbed, the first two rounds could have gone either way. First two rounds could have gone either way, and the third round, Schaub won the third round. I made a big mistake putting that on the main card that should be on the prelims. For Schaub to walk around to think he got robbed is hysterical. First of all, Arlovski looked slow. Arlovski looked soft. Arlovski looked like he couldn't get off tonight. And neither one of them threw any punches in the first two rounds and Schaub still looked like he got hit with a baseball bat. For him to think he was robbed tonight is absolute comedy."

"I think everyone would agree that fight sucked. That fight was horrible. Do you know who lost in that fight? The fans. The fans lost in that fight."

Man, I'll tell you something. If Arlovski is not a HUGE dog in his next fight, I've made a mental note to bet a nice amount of $$$ against him. I won money on him last night but that was just me stealing from some poor bastard who bet on Schaub.

The Arlovski that showed up last night had NOTHING.

Schaub talks like he's top 5 HW in his podcast. Hes great his day job though

On June 15 2014 17:44 whamm! wrote: Schaub talks like he's top 5 HW in his podcast. Hes great his day job though

The market seems to favor people that act like that though. I think its actually better for you to act that way if you believe it or not..
He didnt look real confident walking into the ring though, almost had that look of someone that was pretending he fit in.

I'm so glad i watch the events @ PC so i can fast forward...
Although Johnson went the distance he s still amusing to watch cause of his speed

I guess I'll give Jimmo a pass for his verbal tap. He'll be out for awhile.

Not sure about this sport. I think Tyson in his prime would have dominated these guys easily.

i can understand guys 5'8 to 5'11 being decent fights to watch. but 5'3? I'd rather watch rhonda rousey fights all day.
the ufc don't need that bullshit. There's just too many average sized guys out there to scout and develop which would definitely more interesting to watch. UFC just wants more excuses to sell shitty "title" PPVs