Poker winning in canada - Page 2

On October 24 2013 09:55 player999 wrote: by your logic football = luck, any crappy team can luckbox a win against Barcelona too

do you serisly compare the ''luck'' factor in poker with a sport?
wtf? rly?

canada is exactly like sweden pretty much, only much cooler bigger moose and better at hockey, gg

Luck in poker:

Your hole cards
Your seat/position
Other players
Hitting flop
Hitting turn
Hitting river
Getting called by worse when you got hand
Getting folded to when bluffing
Always depend of your hand vs other guy hand
Getting KK when vilain has AA
Making right play at the right time

i mean there is TONSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS of factors that involve luck
you cannot reduce the luck factor
you can.. LONG TERM.. well, the luck factor is the same
actually long term or not doesnt change shit
what change is that if you alwyas make the right play ull be making money at some point , doenst change that you gona get money in with 70 vs 30%

thsoe %%%%%%% we count,... its all luck

its funy you bring up variance, whch kinda say it is a game of luck xd

On October 24 2013 09:57 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2013 09:55 player999 wrote: by your logic football = luck, any crappy team can luckbox a win against Barcelona too do you serisly compare the ''luck'' factor in poker with a sport? wtf? rly?

it is a mind sport in case you aren't aware

a better comparison to your "1 hand poker game" example is a "1 point tennis game". I can def beat Djokovic in a game like that, doesn't mean it is a luck game, just means it's a skill game with a lot of variance; in the long run he will crush me.

as regulars we dont see tons of stuff as luck becuase we are used to it
...

all those ''coolers'' we get, well, its luck you know xd

On October 24 2013 10:07 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: its funy you bring up variance, whch kinda say it is a game of luck xd

do you even know what is variance? every sport has variance. are sports games of luck?

wtf winning a ''1 point tennis game'' vs a pro or w/e doenst mean you are better and doesnt mean you got lucky
there is no..third party controlling the outcome...

On October 24 2013 10:13 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: wtf winning a ''1 point tennis game'' vs a pro or w/e doenst mean you are better and doesnt mean you got lucky

so tennis is a game of luck?

and what third party controls outcome in poker?

On October 24 2013 10:10 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: as regulars we dont see tons of stuff as luck becuase we are used to it ... all those ''coolers'' we get, well, its luck you know xd

tht just proves chance is a factor, but the difference between a skill game and a luck/chance game isn't the absence of luck/chance, but rather the PREDOMINANCE of skill over the luck chance/factor

okay
what the fuck
poker is skill only
apparently you dont know the ''beauty of that game is that anyone can win''

if you can overcome the luck/chance, like in poker or any sport, it means they are skill-based games. if you can't like in roulette or slots, it means they are luck/chance-based games

oh so you can tell us how big of a % luck is and how big of a % skill is? with facts?

On October 24 2013 10:22 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: okay what the fuck poker is skill only apparently you dont know the ''beauty of that game is that anyone can win''

you are just not reading anything I guess

nothing is "skill only" not even sports, but a "skill-game" is one where the skill can overcome the luck

poker is (-) sum game because of rake. There is a difference between scientific proof of winning > causal inference > correlation > anecdotal data.

There is no scientific proof you are a winning player, at best causal inference, but most likely only correlation for most people.

So anyways, good judgment.

On October 24 2013 10:24 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: oh so you can tell us how big of a % luck is and how big of a % skill is? with facts?

you don't need to say how big % it is, just that it is possible to apply strategies that will win in the long run regardless of the luck

I think Hero is just saying there is much more luck in poker than any other sport, which is pretty hard to argue against especially in the eyes of non poker players

trying to make the right play isnt a strategie man ...

On October 24 2013 10:28 Jamie217 wrote: I think Hero is just saying there is much more luck in poker than any other sport, which is pretty hard to argue against especially in the eyes of non poker players

no one can argue with that, but then what?

Not sure where I stand on this issue.

The fact that casual players in the US are supposed to be taxed on gambling winnings is pretty ridiculous. A 3-5% house edge is one thing, but a 28% govt cut on your year's winnings makes so many games much worse from an EV perspective. Its only not an issue because pretty much everyone loses to begin with and the rare winners cheat on their taxes anyway.

But it doesn't really make much sense from a govt perspective that a poker pro could make 100k a year and pay no taxes whatsoever. He would be getting all government services for free while some poor sap working minimum wage at McDonald's is paying for them.