Tokwiro releases statement regarding UB - Page 2

On December 24 2008 12:50 DustySwedeDude wrote: Show nested quote + On December 24 2008 08:45 phexac wrote: As I said before, I really do think this was, most likely, a malfunction. There are two main reasons for this. One is that, even by the standards of the last scam, this is so outrageously stupid that no one could have truly believed it would work. Two is that Hellmuth is worth millions of dollars, he really does not need to cheat his way to several thousand in online poker. I think you guys are letting you prejudice against UB/Absolute (that is justified) and your hate for Hellmuth cloud your reasoning in this issue. While I am very wary of UB/ABS, I truly do believe that this is nothing but an honest screw up on their part, which has been corrected. Of course, I may be wrong, but I really don't think so. +1 Wouldn't play on their site though.

Meh, I think I'd believe this is all just a malfunction but thing is, on that precise milli-second while he was playing Phil Hellmuth while I can't imagine him playing a lot of poker there, just some to promote the site and shit. Meh, happening in a hand with one of their sponsored players makes it look extremely sketchy...

Why has it not happened before then ? Probably 1.000.000 guys disconnecting before the exact same time as when a pot got shipped, but still it happened exactly with Phil Hellmuth tilting and losing a pot in a headsup match he is getting owned.

Hmmm... I wouldnt put money into that site And FOR SURE not play vs Phil Hellmuth there

oh im really surprised they didnt admit they were a bunch of cheating faggots for a 2nd time! zomg........... -_________-

This can only mean one thing...

PHIL HELLMUTH IS A DROP HACKER!!!

Way to shady.

zip it cheats :D

imo too much talk about sth that can best be fixed by not playing / giving a fck about their site. no concern of mine, sites like this can lick my ballz and still wont give a fck.

i predict the next post will be "ill never put a dollar in this shit site lolz"

On December 24 2008 08:45 phexac wrote: As I said before, I really do think this was, most likely, a malfunction. There are two main reasons for this. One is that, even by the standards of the last scam, this is so outrageously stupid that no one could have truly believed it would work. Two is that Hellmuth is worth millions of dollars, he really does not need to cheat his way to several thousand in online poker. I think you guys are letting you prejudice against UB/Absolute (that is justified) and your hate for Hellmuth cloud your reasoning in this issue. While I am very wary of UB/ABS, I truly do believe that this is nothing but an honest screw up on their part, which has been corrected. Of course, I may be wrong, but I really don't think so.

and on top of that hellmuth's winrate is like 2bb/100 instead of 50bb/100 of the earlier cheaters (or what was it?)

and if UB wanted to cheat players out of their money why would they let their posterboy in on it

and if they needed this money so bad why would they let their cheater play so few hands

why pick a hand where the other guy has trip kings to cheat

the only way i can believe this was a cheat is if someone else with less money was on hellmuth's account or something or if their motive for cheating was not money but "making things more spectacular"

Think people, think...

They obviously said the truth in this statement and there is no hidden conspiracy to let Hellmuth earn a couple bucks. Of course it is not the first scandal UB has been involved in, but the only thing it shows is you cannot trust the people who work there as well as the bugged software.
Intentional - no, but says a lot about the whole company. It is just better not to play there, period.

TEN-DEUCE'd to avoid phils rage-o-meter crushing the whole internets

I am one of the most watched players on the Internet, hellmuth said
lol what s the traffic in ub?