Bill Perkins makes a swimming bet with Joeingram1

The worlds biggest prop-bet lover, poker entusiasth, and a billionaire, Bill Perkins made the bet against Joe "ChicagoJoey/Joeingram1" Ingram that he can't swim one mile in the ocean. Doesn't seem like much, but to this time Joe have never learned how to swim.

Ingram has until the end of September and stands to win $15,000 against his own $5,000 after Perkins gave him odds of 3:1.

Joe, who is seen by his twitter name "Joey Phelps" making fun of the bet, shared this news on twitter:


The prop-bet was announced on Joe's podcast where Perkins was making his third appearance. The discussion turned to Perkins upcoming "Streamboat 2" poker stream, where he will be joined once again by Jaime and Matt Staples, Jeff Gross, and Kevin Martin at his yacht in the Caribbean to live stream some poker, record some prop-bets etc.

The discussion passed about ongoing bet Perkins made with the Staples brothers (305 lb Jaime and 134 lb Matt have to get within 1 lb of each other within a year - they are currently halfway there with Jaime having dropped 50lb and Matt being on +35lb), Perkins invited Joey down to hang out with them on the boat. Joe remarked that he wouldn't be "gettin' on no boat" and revealilng that he couldn't swim which almost instantly trigger Perkin's girlfriend to "sounds like a bet". And it was on.

The hedge fund boss offered odds of 3:1 on $5k if Joe could swim one mile in the ocean.

small stakes this time

Joey is in good shape and he has a ridiculous work ethic, easy money for him

On August 04 2017 07:34 Baalim wrote: Joey is in good shape and he has a ridiculous work ethic, easy money for him

Yeah, kinda surprised he didnt go for higher bet. Initial offer was at 10k I think.

If he learns to switch between breaststroke and backstroke effectively in order to relax different types of muscles he is going to do it with no problem. But relaying only on one style is going to be really hard. And we can put freestyle and butterfly out of the picture since one month is not enough for these to learn and succeed. So, it really depends whether he gets this advice from his swimming coach. An interesting bet for sure.

Swimming 1 mile is a lot.
What are the limitaitons, not dying? Can he just float 1 mile trough?

Super easy

He can do that without a break, even if he swims like a dog

I did that distance when I was at my fattest

Its a little more than 32 times back and forth in a normal swimming pool

Yeah this is a super easy bet. You can just do breast stroke and glide quite a ways while saving energy. It would be harder if you had to do it freestyle or if there was a time limit. I remember when I used to swim a lot I felt like I could do a breast stroke forever. Once you get in a good rhythm it is very relaxing.

Prop bet is for swimming in the ocean, not in a regular pool. Difference is big.

On August 04 2017 18:32 Expiate wrote: Prop bet is for swimming in the ocean, not in a regular pool. Difference is big.

Yeah it can be much more tiring but the flotation is higher so the backstroke is particularly easy

With whats going on in the propbetting scene this doesn't even register. Why would anyone care?
[ ] Interesting

On August 04 2017 20:39 cariadon wrote: With whats going on in the propbetting scene this doesn't even register. Why would anyone care? [ ] Interesting

news about a well known user on LP? oh ok

Idk 1mile is longer than you think

On August 04 2017 20:39 cariadon wrote: With whats going on in the propbetting scene this doesn't even register. Why would anyone care? [ ] Interesting

You're honestly the saltiest little bitch ever. Every post.

well, actually I'm interested, most prop-bets are just cool to watch

incredibly easy. Joey is athletic. Can backstroke a mile with almost no effort

Yea, I think this all comes down to if he can backstroke. 1 mile backstroke should be quite do able even for someone that isn't a strong swimmer, but is in good shape

Can any of you backstroke advocates swim at all? Its super easy.
This is more about technique than being strong.
Hey Bill if you come on the show it would be cool if we did a propbet... so i can get maximum views and insert Baals Revolver quote from the other thread. You are just being stringed along.
Can i bet on this not being interesting?

well he'll be dealing with the current, waves, and probably cold water. It wont be easy but as long as he can learn to float so he can take breaks. The jellyfish might make it difficult once his legs and arms go numb from their stingers. Thats after the burning sensation wears off of course. You hear that joey?

The waves can fuck him up. Any sort of breathing difficulties will result in panic and loss in energy. He needs to spend 2 weeks with a coach in the swimming pool doing backstroke or whatever is easiest, then 2 weeks of practice in the ocean.

Joey, screw what they say on the backstroke, stick to the reach-around

I would train like this : wake up - swim a mile. do my day.

wake up, swim a mile, do my day.

rinse wash repeat.

its literally that ez wtf is bill doing

Joey hes payin you 10k to be a more well rounded individual.

You will love boating with ppl like Bill SHiet!

The backstroke idea is horrid imo. It is a technique-dependant swimming style and completely useless in an ocean with waves. He would have no sense of direction, water would go over his face all the time, it would tire him in a short amount of a time, it would be much less efficient than crawl (freestyle) and not to mention the waves that he would not see coming. He should stick to free-style. He can have his head over the water with no effort from time to time and see any wave coming his way.

From an 'activity' point of view it's an easy bet for him as he has 50 days to prepare. It's up to whether or not he panics in the water. There is the obvious fear of sharks if there are any occurance with sharks in the area the pbet takes place. The way he said "i wont get in no boat" because he can't swim makes me wonder if he has some sort of phobia or if its just natural fear because he can't swim.

why would he backstroke this? im confused?If hes in as good as shape as everyone says he should be able to win this prop. I think his biggest worry will have to be if he panics. Even people who know how to swim panic in open water and lock up.

I don't know what kind of shape he's in but I think I would personally bet against Joey. Swimming 1 mile is like running 3 miles, against the current is like 5 miles. If he's never swam in his life so much could go wrong. He'd need a good trainer and good work ethic for the entire month and a half and even then, it'd still be hard imo.


edit: it's actually end of sept so closer to two months. More do-able but still hard.

It hasn't been said if he can try multiple times.
Swimming 1 mile is like running 3 miles...

WHAT THE FUCK ?!

Why would anyone lock up if you can have a friend be there for you to help. Its not like Bear Grylls drops you into the ocean from a helicopter. The bet is interesting if it matters for either or both. For Bill it is couch money.
That being said i wish you the best.

On August 05 2017 15:44 Nitewin wrote: I don't know what kind of shape he's in but I think I would personally bet against Joey. Swimming 1 mile is like running 3 miles, against the current is like 5 miles. If he's never swam in his life so much could go wrong. He'd need a good trainer and good work ethic for the entire month and a half and even then, it'd still be hard imo. edit: it's actually end of sept so closer to two months. More do-able but still hard.

He admitted he's going to lose haha