Daniel Colman wins 2014 WSOP Big One for One Drop, Negreanu takes #1 spot all-time profit - Page 2

he literally made a life rant about markets that exploit people's weaknesses and stuff like that, like it is a really bad thing and then he says "I capitalize off this game that targets peoples weaknesses". He does basically the same thing he ranted about...

"It bothers me that people care so much about poker's well being. As poker is a game that has such a net negative effect on the people playing it. Both financially and emotionally. " yeah, sure... like he doesn't care if poker dies and again bashing the game he spend most of his life with?

complete hypocrite... but at the same time completely understandably, because it's easy to have this distorted vision about poker.

On July 03 2014 17:04 JonnyCosMo wrote: I played w him & Olivier Busquet all summer at Aria 2 years ago, and I found him to be a pretty nice / very funny guy. With that said: that kid litterally would not stop talking at the table ever. Just constantly needling people and shit talking in a (i thought) kinda funny way. Apparently on the internet he's also a huge chat shit talker / troll. I'm like positive he's one of those guys that "wants to see the world burn". So when I saw he denied the media after his win, gave no words or interviews, my initial reaction was like "Ofcourse, don't these people know this kid is the biggest troll ever?" Then he gave some heart felt response to his actions on twoplustwo about how he doesn't want to promote poker because it's "evil" and that he's "conflicted" with loving an evil game etc, and if you ask me that's just complete bullshit caz if you ever met this kid irl he litterally does not stop talking ever and loves to needle the shit out of people constantly. High level troll.

Yes. It is all pure trolling. Declining the interviews (he's trolling the media among other things) and trolling further with that response

On July 03 2014 22:08 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2014 21:49 Nitewin wrote: LP pay for 66% of the buy in to get 5% back? You never understood what?? Notice I said, "or whatever." The, "or whatever," lets you know it's just an idea, and not something I put much thought into. LP would obviously ask for a percentage that benefited them. Basically, stop being a little bitch.

Clearly.

Trashtalking aside... It's one thing to play the game and It's another to participate in media or promotional coverage. On a purely personal and self-serving level that kind of attention is just too loud for me. Most people are here because the games are (or were) as good as they are and do little to nothing to promote it themselves. Thats why you pay rake, eh? Disconnection, safety and control. Given the choice, would you honestly promote it coming with the intention of poker bringing overall happiness and good into peoples lives? No way in hell. Intending only to bring in fresh clueless fish it's easy to ignore what actually happens to most players. Poker can help people if they're open to it and can see past the confetti. There are potentially mathematical/logical/psychological skills developed if the person is interested but if not are they really benefiting beyond mindless gambling that may get them in serious trouble and will likely cost them money? If poker was to totally dry up and die completely live and online (no real playerbase) perhaps some would begin promoting homegames with total newbies but most would just quit or play with some buds.

p.s. he looks like doomer, no? total doomer clone

You guys know Coleman's story? Like 2 years ago he was an FTP/stars railbird watching the high stakes games. He would observe Livb/Adonis playing high stakes hu sngs. He would call out Livb's hands in observer chat so Livb sharks coped him and saw he won at micros so he took him under his wing and coached/staked him. A short time later he now owns the 1k hyper and 5k turbo lobbies and has won the One Drop

Player999, is he better than liv now if he is multi accounting him for action (super shady to do to the guy that made you). Would you say mrGr33n is better than skaiwalkurr?

lol wut, he isnt doing that

i accept the fact that this game destroys a lot of people's lives. it's beyond my control, and if they lose their money to me, better than them losing it to the casino.

this dude is trying to say that the game is a problem and destroying people's lives, yet trying to rise above the fact that he's the one that's benefiting from it. you can't have it both ways which is why i'm calling him a hypocrite.

why is refusing to promote it "rising above the fact that he's the one benefiting"?

would you promote the game in his position?

tbh to say something that hypocritical proves hes a full troll and isnt serious at all. guy must love stirring people up on such a high scale. lmao he wins the one drop then says poker is bad and destroys lives. ahahah you gotta give him props hes trolling the fuck out of everyone and still people are second guessing this

On July 04 2014 19:56 MARSHALL28 wrote: i accept the fact that this game destroys a lot of people's lives. it's beyond my control, and if they lose their money to me, better than them losing it to the casino. this dude is trying to say that the game is a problem and destroying people's lives, yet trying to rise above the fact that he's the one that's benefiting from it. you can't have it both ways which is why i'm calling him a hypocrite.

-Fish see fortunes being made, intense action, fame, how "easy" it seems and get suckered in. That's the way it's always been because they're vulnerable.
-Regs see a situation that already exists (the casino industry) that they can then take advantage of in a calm and controlled way. Less vulnerable. They have developed math/logic/psychological/strategical skills through experience and can turn a profit.

It's anothing thing entirely to promote and take part in (actively or passively) trying to "grow" the industry by suckering more new players in. You could argue the regs are contributing to the promotion of poker through volume and rake generation and definitely through media coverage making them look like superstars. Even if all regs stopped playing the game wouldn't go away, you would just have a different tier of regfish at the top of the chain. Thats the nature of the game.

i'm assuming that the "destruction of lives" is not just about money, it's also about psychological injuries related to poker, so...

poker, like all pvp games, is a sport. there are winners and there are losers. it's not fun being a loser. games that cause negative fun for players are evil. all sports are evil. competition is evil.

...what is evil?

On July 05 2014 05:05 fira wrote: poker, like all pvp games, is a sport. there are winners and there are losers.

TRIPLE edit - I'm an idiot, I failed to read your whole post before responding haha. (Note to self. Don't respond before reading whole posts. Ok.)

Grats to this guy. I read that someone said he has 1 mill or so in online winnings? I wonder how much of the buy-in was staked.

On July 04 2014 02:21 MARSHALL28 wrote: id hate to be this dude....completely conflicted with the thing he focuses all his attention on .. seems like he's living a nightmare. complete hypocrite.

if you think there s a single human being that isn't a hypocrite you're living in an illusion

anyway- guy seems to be quite intelligent - thats what created those conflicts too, he obviously realizes way much better himself and his actions than anything you guys can write here... but he is either in a really deep utopian dilemma or trolling

The utopian view + narcissism would explain everything he s saying + actions + why he would try to multi account win vs his former coach

A lot of respect for his opinion. Not so much in combination with how he acts online apparently.

On July 04 2014 02:21 MARSHALL28 wrote: id hate to be this dude....completely conflicted with the thing he focuses all his attention on .. seems like he's living a nightmare. complete hypocrite.

that is not what the word hypocrite means

ok looking through posts here, you all need to look up the word hypocrite

oops double post

Personally I find it more hypocritical that people (subconsciously) adjust their opinions to suit what is benefiting them in life in order not to having to live with what they think is hypocritical. This guy is on the money. You should totally be allowed to think poker does not have a net positive contribution to society and still play it because it benefits you.

+1

I think everyone is good for poker and this is pretty cool of him, but it almost sounds like "Sheldon Add3ls0n" backed him for the event with the further coverage

i think this is cool for a couple reasons,
it must be awkward being on tv, what if you say the wrong thing? fart? mallrats style.

Such a bad troll the more I think of it tho.

A quick, "congrats, thx, tough field, managed the win, come out and play the next one with me" woulda been sweet.

nobody will know outside us in the inside of the poker matrix.

normies etc will overlook it, they prolly wont even mention it on tv