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Handnr: 994695
Submitted by : bigredhoss

PokerStars Hand #90527172847: Holdem No Limit ($100/$200 USD) - 2012/12/09 21:47:53 ET
Table Arlon 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: Ben86 ($76466 in chips)
Seat 6: wilhasha ($33222.24 in chips)
Ben86: posts small blind $100
wilhasha: posts big blind $200

Holecards(Odds)
Ben86: raises $400 to $600
wilhasha: calls $400

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1,200.00)

   3h9c6s
wilhasha: checks
Ben86: bets $754.74
wilhasha: calls $754.74

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2,709.48)

   3h9c6sJc
wilhasha: checks
Ben86: bets $2030.61
wilhasha: calls $2030.61

River (Pot : $6,770.70)

   3h9c6sJc8h
wilhasha: checks
Ben86: bets $5076.52
wilhasha: calls $5076.52

Showdown
Ben86: shows 4c5c (high card Jack)
wilhasha: shows JhKs (a pair of Jacks)
wilhasha collected $16921.74 from pot

Summary
Total pot $16923.74 | Rake $2
Board  3h9c6sJc8h
Seat 3: Ben86 (button) (small blind) showed 4c5c and lost with high card Jack
Seat 6: wilhasha (big blind) showed JhKs and won ($16921.74) with a pair of Jacks

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Dec 09 2012 23:03. Posts 8633

q for hu players: if you’re ben86, what assumptions do you make about wilhasha’s overall gameplan from this hand? i realize KJ is going to be good there (flop) pretty often, but I don’t think he can be calling flop oop with the intention of showing down K high vs a smart aggressive player? does it imply he’s going to be donking some turns and firing rivers that don’t improve his hand, or is it more likely he’s just calling for implied odds to hit a K or J (that doesn’t seem right but what do I know)?

i know this is oversimplified and there’s lots of other possibilities and it depends a ton on history. but i guess what i’m asking is: what are the most logical conclusions to make about his postflop plan from his play here, given both players are good and no other info?

thanks if anyone answers this

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player999   Brasil. Dec 09 2012 23:11. Posts 7977

not much to conclude imo, you can conclude stuff when he DOESNT hit the J, when he does we dont know what his plan was

from the small sample of hands I've seen tho wilhasha seems pretty bad

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Dec 09 2012 23:37. Posts 8633

hmmm how about this then:

if you were in wilhasha's spot and forced to call flop, how would you play the rest of the hand on turns/rivers that don't improve you vs good player?

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player999   Brasil. Dec 09 2012 23:53. Posts 7977

idk, not many good cards to c/r besides the T, its a shitty super vulnerable spot to be vs a good aggr player

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Dec 10 2012 00:08. Posts 4428

floating with KJ here seems pretty standard. He can c/f turns when villian bets turn and not get exploited because he is still going to have pairs in his range to call turn with. When he does hit a K or J villian will barrel off and get owned. Whereas if he just has Ahigh, 3rd and 2nd pair and maybe top pair in his flop calling range, his range is going to be more capped vs overcards(except aces) and he will not be able to face 2-3 barrels as easily since with every overcard ben will be able to vbet thinly.

supposed to have greenstar not bracelet 

 

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