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Handnr: 909914
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, June 17, 03:45:51 ET 2011
Table Cornelia IV Real Money
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $25.00 USD - VPIP: 17, PFR: 12, 3B: 10, AF: 2.7, Hands: 133
Seat 2: Player2 $25.50 USD - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 3, AF: 1.7, Hands: 67
Seat 3: Player3 $26.48 USD - VPIP: 14, PFR: 11, 3B: 2, AF: 1.7, Hands: 280
Seat 4: Player4 $20.00 USD - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: NaN, AF: NaN, Hands: 1
Seat 5: Hero $36.10 USD - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.4, Hands: 262525
Seat 6: Player6 $27.67 USD - VPIP: 24, PFR: 19, 3B: 10, AF: 1.7, Hands: 134
Player3 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Player4 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [KdAc ]
Hero raises [$0.85 USD]
Player6 raises [$2.50 USD]
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Hero calls [$1.65 USD]

Flop (Pot : $5.35)

   TsJh2h
Hero checks
Player6 bets [$3.20 USD]
Hero calls [$3.20 USD]

Turn (Pot : $11.75)

   TsJh2hTd
Hero checks
Player6 bets [$7.10 USD]
Hero folds

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 17 2011 16:08. Posts 15163

Ok I shouldn't be playing now at all, the cold, graduation and my auntie visiting from Czech Republic disturbed my regime. I felt really bad and told myself I will go for a walk and instead I fired up tables, boo. Well at least I am doing a review, and I broke even - sick run good

On this table I open my standard 13% utg, I was folding to raises but had moderate stats, some 27/23 but I am pretty sure he was on another table with me so he will have my standard 20/17 stats or something.
Villain does have 3b 10%, but 0/18 in position - he 3bet only in blinds so far. that and given positions I don't think 4bet call is +ev with AKo.

cb 3b pot 2/2
cbet mormal 70%
fold to cb raise 0/1 (see read)
30wtsd

We didn't play any significant pots together yet, reads are observed:

 
*PRE*
0.7 aTo CO
*3B*
*POST*
cb tpTK TXX 1.2-1.75, call small raise
vbet rivered tripps 38%



When I play against someone with tight 3b range that I believe AK is not a stack off I have trouble postflop, especially when I am not at the top of my game.
Is it ok to just call to c/f when we miss? I am usually facing a tight range oop.
If someone has just 2-5% 3bet and I'm oop and don't have any specific postflop reads that I could exploit or know he has a bluffing range, can I just fold AK preflop?
To be honest I check called just because I called with a hand I usually 4bet and it's pretty, my only plan was hitting stuff.

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93% Sure! Last edit: 17/06/2011 16:30

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 17 2011 17:13. Posts 5297

it is definitely ok to c/f when you miss. Floating here is ok here too though, with the gutshot and you rep a set of TT or JJ pretty well. Most good players should give up after cbetting here.

i think you should get ak in preflop here tho, even tho its utg they are running 10% 3bet and ak is in top 2.6% of hands if im not mistaken.

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 17 2011 17:16. Posts 15163

He 3bet 0/18 IP and I am tight utg

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 17 2011 17:28. Posts 5297

.1% chance of him even reading your utg pfr stats. I'd try make ur play based more on standard abc and less on stat reading. Try not to let ur stats deviate your play too much

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 17 2011 17:38. Posts 15163

Yeah that's minor, I stack off lighter only when I have been really lose or tighter when I was tight

But anyway, standard ABC v low 3b in these positions definitely isn't a stack off no?

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sunnysky7   . Jun 17 2011 17:45. Posts 1549

i agree with stroggoz , you hold blocker and top preminum hand , when you start 4betting you'll find villain fold more often than you think
when they fold +ev , even run into QQ/JJ its slightly -ev , its hard to play oop and against a good opponent
if i were villain i would def 2-barral any 2 like guttor or FD since T paired the board and you have to fold everything except JJ
i assume you would 4bet QQ/KK/AA pre , there are so few hands you can stand his aggrasion

 Last edit: 17/06/2011 17:48

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 17 2011 17:53. Posts 15163

so you'd stack off pre?

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sunnysky7   . Jun 17 2011 18:04. Posts 1549

y not its AK....i would like stack off everytime playing 6m if i dealt with AK
only against someone 3bet below 2.5% over 1k hand i would like fold AKo to his 3bet , AKs probably still 4bet/call
if you put him on exactly AA/KK/QQ then fold preflop


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 17 2011 18:11. Posts 15163

You know we need 49% equity if he never bluffs right?
AKo has 39% vs QQ+AK. I am pretty sure auto stacking off with AKo without a reason in these positions is a mistake, especially against someone who never 3bet even button and had some 11 opportunities.

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truffesbio4920   . Jun 17 2011 19:05. Posts 111

in my opinion calling is better than 4betting (which looks like 0EV in this spot). by calling you can keep worse value hands in his range whereas a 4bet might look really strong to him.
AK will be easy to play on almost any flop. now you hit one of the harder-to-play flops but I think what you did is about fine.. Id probably rather just fold on the flop

 Last edit: 17/06/2011 19:11

Oly   United Kingdom. Jun 17 2011 19:11. Posts 3585

Flatting pre is fine, but calling the flop is a whole pile of spew. If you don't want to get it in pre against his range then why on earth would you c/c ace high against the same range?? Not only that, but if you do put some weaker hands in his range then they love this flop! And you are just going to have to play another street oop - it only gets worse.

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 17 2011 19:40. Posts 15163

Agreed thx Oly.

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