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Submitted by : terrybunny19240

Full Tilt Poker Game #21710822621: Table Supercharger (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:25:54 ET - 2010/06/18
Seat 1: Kronik Man ($49.45)
Seat 2: Romento ($61.90)
Seat 3: Night2o11 ($94.95)
Seat 4: Prufit ($79.40)
Seat 5: guitarizt ($64.25)
Seat 6: Muzilheg ($95.25)
Night2o11 posts the small blind of $0.25
Prufit posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Night2o11AsQs
guitarizt has 8 seconds left to act
guitarizt raises to $1.50
Muzilheg folds
Kronik Man folds
Romento calls $1.50
Night2o11 has 15 seconds left to act
Night2o11 raises to $6
Prufit folds
guitarizt calls $4.50
Romento has 15 seconds left to act
Romento calls $4.50

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $18.50)

   6s8dTs
Night2o11 has 15 seconds left to act
Night2o11 has requested TIME
Night2o11 bets $10.50
guitarizt has 15 seconds left to act
guitarizt has requested TIME
guitarizt raises to $35
Romento folds
Night2o11 raises to $88.95, and is all in
guitarizt calls $23.25, and is all in
Night2o11 showsAsQs
guitarizt shows6h6c
Uncalled bet of $30.70 returned to Night2o11

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $135.00)

   6s8dTs3h

River (Pot : $135.00)

   6s8dTs3h5d
Night2o11 shows Ace Queen high
guitarizt shows three of a kind, Sixes
guitarizt wins the pot ($132) with three of a kind, Sixes

Summary
Total pot $135 | Rake $3
Board:6s8dTs3h5d
Seat 1: Kronik Man didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Romento (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Night2o11 (small blind) showedAsQs and lost with Ace Queen high
Seat 4: Prufit (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: guitarizt showed6h6c and won ($132) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 6: Muzilheg didn't bet (folded)

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terrybunny19240   United States. Jun 18 2010 17:30. Posts 13829

love expert players such as this


tho idk if cbetting flop is best

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YoMeR   United States. Jun 18 2010 17:36. Posts 12435

cbetting flop is 100% standard and should be done: you want to get as much money in the pot when you have the most equity. And if villain set mines to 3 bets as a standard. c betting almost all boards is incrediblly +ev as you can just move him off his stupid 33 on a T82 board anyway in future spots.

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terrybunny19240   United States. Jun 18 2010 17:40. Posts 13829

thanks

after posting I thought about it a sec and realized that cbetting is going to be best, with the plan to shove any turn. Well, my only question remaining might be should I jam turns that pair the board?


joLin   United States. Jun 18 2010 17:48. Posts 3818

really depends on what you think his range is in this spot.

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[vital]Myth    United States. Jun 18 2010 17:55. Posts 12159

wat

check-shoving flop is almost certainly best. you do want to get the most money in while you have the most equity, so therefore you need to accomplish two things:

1. get your opponent to put in money with the widest possible range
2. make sure you get allin on flop (since there's so much money out already)

if you check the flop, sometimes your opponent will just bluff, or he'll bet a hand that wouldn't have continued when you cbet. so that accomplishes #1
also, when you check the flop, you ensure that you get to shove and get ALL the money in. that accomplishes #2

cbetting fails in both regards, forcing you to have more money behind on turns AND forcing your opponent to put money in with a tighter range than he would when you check.

definitely check-shove. and if he checks behind, then he likely has pretty much nothing and you can safely bet tons of turns and take it down no problem

there is a minor exception. if you check this flop and you think your opponent ONLY bets with a very strong range, then check/call is best

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

terrybunny19240   United States. Jun 18 2010 18:04. Posts 13829

thanks corwin, makes sense


YoMeR   United States. Jun 18 2010 18:09. Posts 12435

That's a cool idea, so wats your plan if opponent checks behind hands like 55 on this board? lead turn? or check/fold or call clean turn depending on sizing?

also: wouldn't thinking opponents really own us here if we check? Hard to really represent anything taking a c/r line in spots like these.

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staxxx   Bulgaria. Jun 18 2010 18:19. Posts 652

of course we could balance check shove with tp+ but the problem is that 99% of players are fish that will put us on AK AQ. And if they check any low pair behind, theyre not folding it on any safe turn and river.

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