Is this standard on this turn card especially? villain is mostly unknown but I do know he's a regular of some kind

Here are two stoves, same hand ranges for us on diff turn cards

Board: 3s Qh Tc Jh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.537% 30.17% 05.37% 876 156.00 { AhQc }
Hand 1: 64.463% 59.09% 05.37% 1716 156.00 { TT+, AQs+, KJs+, QTs+, AQo+, KJo+, QTo+ }



Board: 3s Qh Tc 5h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.879% 58.88% 04.00% 1943 132.00 { AhQc }
Hand 1: 37.121% 33.12% 04.00% 1093 132.00 { TT+, AQs+, KJs+, QTs+, AQo+, KJo+, QTo+ }


plzzzzzz help this is a very important type of spot I need to learn about

you're rarely good here and only beat bluffs, fold until you get better reads on him i guess?

thanks

Just raise flop and get it in, man. Stop playing scared. Don't play 3-bet pots with AQ and flop TPTK if you're going to play scared. I remember playing with you at the deepstacked NL100 tables on FTP and you play the same then as you do now.

Just sayin'.

yeah it's tough to fold here, but not much you can beat

how can raise flop and get it in be best here without any history

there are times I have done so when I have knowledge about the player, including 200bb deep, but not when I don't have any history...?

You shouldn't worry too much about stacking off here without reads for 100bb. And this is also NL50, man. I remember playing these stakes like it was yesterday because I spent the longest time playing it. I mean, what are you plans for a blank turn and river? The money is quite frankly going in by the river so just pop flop or don't fold ever.

You raise flop to get information

I mean, just what kind of flop are you looking for with a hand like AQ and you flop TPTK? Jesus, this hand is bad.

On April 16 2010 02:34 kingpowa wrote: You raise flop to get information

anything but this plz.

On April 16 2010 02:34 kingpowa wrote: You raise flop to get information

you are in position, you'll have information if you call.

On April 16 2010 02:28 Night2o1 wrote: how can raise flop and get it in be best here without any history there are times I have done so when I have knowledge about the player, including 200bb deep, but not when I don't have any history...?

dont call pf with AQ if you cant get it in with a smile in your face when you flop TP on a safe board

On April 16 2010 02:35 TheHuHu3 wrote: I mean, just what kind of flop are you looking for with a hand like AQ and you flop TPTK? Jesus, this hand is bad.

On April 16 2010 03:03 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2010 02:28 Night2o1 wrote: how can raise flop and get it in be best here without any history there are times I have done so when I have knowledge about the player, including 200bb deep, but not when I don't have any history...? dont call pf with AQ if you cant get it in with a smile in your face when you flop TP on a safe board

THIS

On April 16 2010 02:57 vlseph wrote: Show nested quote + On April 16 2010 02:34 kingpowa wrote: You raise flop to get information you are in position, you'll have information if you call.

ok maybe I shloud have put more smileys...
You raise to get it in. And that's all.

as played, this turn hits your perceived range big time. So for him to bet that means its a clear fold.

People monkey c-bet after 3betting oop, calling flop on this board is fine, raising flop is spewy vs unknown, what do you think he calls you with? QJ?

I don't think you're thinking in the wrong way or anything but those ranges are really weird. Why do you give him QTo but not 87hearts or 98 of spades? It's possible that he's such a tight ass that you should fold here, but then you can't give him QTo or anything like this.