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Handnr: 68964
Submitted by : Twisted

** Game ID 919852462 starting - 2006-09-02 01:48:07
** Aspen [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money
- 19bjorn sitting in seat 1 with $120.35
- Mahtte sitting in seat 2 with $341.10
- hvaalman sitting in seat 3 with $114.40 [Sitting out]
- sdunsmb sitting in seat 4 with $188.00 [Dealer]
- Fish1984 sitting in seat 5 with $396.75
- ritziz sitting in seat 6 with $207.77
Fish1984 posted the small blind - $1.00
ritziz posted the big blind - $2.00

Holecards
   QhQd
19bjorn folded
Mahtte called - $2.00
sdunsmb folded
Fish1984 raised - $10.00
ritziz called - $10.00
Mahtte called - $10.00

Flop (Pot : $30)

   5h7s3c
Fish1984 bet - $20.00
ritziz called - $20.00
Mahtte called - $20.00

Turn (Pot : $90)

   5h7s3c5s
Fish1984 checked
ritziz checked
Mahtte bet - $76.00
Fish1984 called - $76.00
ritziz folded

River (Pot : $242)

   5h7s3c5s9h
Fish1984 checked
Mahtte checked
Fish1984 shows:QhQd
Mahtte mucks:
Fish1984 wins $240.00 from the main pot

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TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Sep 01 2006 17:50. Posts 3539

pushing river > check calling.

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Twisted    Netherlands. Sep 01 2006 17:52. Posts 10422

Yeah push river when we're both deep and when I get 2 callers on a non-draw board.

It's not a donkament.


SakiSaki    Sweden. Sep 01 2006 17:55. Posts 9685

i would def. check/call river here also.

what wackass site is this nigga?  

TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Sep 01 2006 17:58. Posts 3539

He has $100 left, the pot is $242. How much do you expect him to bet? If your check folding the river fine, but i assume the plan was to check call, and if hes not a total moron his only bet is to push.

So hes going to check behind with all the hands you beat that MIGHT call a bet (A7, TT, JJ, 88) etc and you win nothing, and hes going to bet every hand that you do bet. If you plan to check call his push anyway, its kinda simple to push this river as your going to lose the $100 to hands that have you beat anyway, but you gain value from the hands that might look you up when you push but def won't bet when you check.

The only reason to check call here imo is to fold to an allin, or to catch a bluff - and im not sure this is the correct board to do it.

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Twisted    Netherlands. Sep 01 2006 17:59. Posts 10422

He has 230 left.

and I would probably fold to a push.

 Last edit: 01/09/2006 18:00

TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Sep 01 2006 18:00. Posts 3539

Oh, bleh i missread the hand hahah. I thought it was the other opponent with the $200 stack who you got to the river with, ignore me! I assume if he had $100-150 behind you agree that push > checking yes?

I still bet the river

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Twisted    Netherlands. Sep 01 2006 18:03. Posts 10422

Nah I don't like his bet on the river. If he had 100$ left I would call the push obviously, but knowing I would probably be beat. I wouldn't be able to fold then though.

And I can't really bet this river I think after he bet so big. He either has me beat, or he was bluffing. So no use in betting the river really.


TwistedEcho    United Kingdom. Sep 01 2006 18:08. Posts 3539

If your check calling $100, pushing > calling. Do you not see this? (this is assuming he has $100 left)

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SakiSaki    Sweden. Sep 01 2006 18:09. Posts 9685

I agree with echo here, if he has around 100$ left im pushing the river.

what wackass site is this nigga?  

Twisted    Netherlands. Sep 01 2006 18:11. Posts 10422

Hm.. true. But I might have just bet turn again if he was shorter.

btw I just came out of downswing having lost like 1/4 or 1/3th of my roll so I'm still a bit paranoid

that 88 hand I actually thought he made straight with JQ on river lol

 Last edit: 01/09/2006 18:15

 

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