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Handnr: 599240
Submitted by : DustySwedeDude

** Hand # 2342258338 starting - 2009-01-01 17:24:44
** Copernicia [Hold 'em] (2.00|4.00 NL - Cash Game) Real Money
Al-the-greek sitting in seat 1 with €125.80
Lexxar sitting in seat 2 with €137.45
derr8303 sitting in seat 3 with €585.83
Dustylove sitting in seat 5 with €420.10
IJburg sitting in seat 6 with €600.34[Dealer]
Al-the-greek posted the small blind - €2.00
Lexxar posted the big blind - €4.00

Holecards
   7s8s
derr8303 raised to €16.00
Dustylove raised to €56.00
IJburg folded
Al-the-greek folded
Lexxar folded
derr8303 called - €56.00

Flop (Pot : $118.00)

   Tc4h9h
derr8303 checked
Dustylove checked

Turn (Pot : $118.00)

   Tc4h9h7d
derr8303 bet - €82.00
Dustylove??

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anon   Lithuania. Jan 01 2009 11:30. Posts 5965

well, i would just call there, you might have the best hand a lot and by raising you put yourself in quite akward spot , thou id rather bet flop and check turn

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Zanjong   Afghanistan. Jan 01 2009 11:34. Posts 3076

I like how you play to now.. i guess its call or fold, depending on if you think he has a hand or not


anon   Lithuania. Jan 01 2009 11:41. Posts 5965

folding would be stupid, what's the point of 3betting pf and folding on a good board?

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Zanjong   Afghanistan. Jan 01 2009 11:43. Posts 3076

well you 3bet because you think he will fold right? And when he calls you put him on AQ JJ+. And maybe you 3bet a hand like this because he will fold or 3bet alot preflop, hence you want to polarize your 3betting. You see what i mean?


SakiSaki    Sweden. Jan 01 2009 11:43. Posts 9685

cause villian folds so much its instant profit?

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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Jan 01 2009 11:47. Posts 4697

I call and FML if the river's an 8 and he shoves.

 Last edit: 01/01/2009 11:48

DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Jan 01 2009 11:54. Posts 8623

History: Has been 3betting him a lot.

I shoved, he folded


Oly   United Kingdom. Jan 01 2009 12:00. Posts 3585

I don't really see him folding better too often when you shove. If you are prepared to to do that, surely you might as well call twice?

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Zanjong   Afghanistan. Jan 01 2009 13:13. Posts 3076

agree with oly, the only thing we sacrifice by calling turn is giving freecard, which prolly is like 10-15% of equity we give him. If he is stupid enough to bet-fold A9 or KT then I guess shoving is nice, but I dont think it happens that much.

As well we are blocking the J for him, if he has like QJ or KJ, even if that gives him straight cards to hit.

But I think if we call turn, and river is an 8, we call again. And if river is K or Q and he shoves, we fold. If river is an Ace and he shoves, I think we might call, depending on if he likes to bluff. If river is like 5,4,3,2 and he shoves, I think we can fold. But I see alot of ppl betting turn as a bluff, but discouraged by your call, checks river. And I think alot off ppl can check down JT QT on river.


DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Jan 01 2009 13:30. Posts 8623

It must be more, he has like 10 outs or so all the time here, and he opened UTG so he shouldn't have anything that hits this hard except overpairs and maybe TT. Don't see how we can know which outs are good either, except 7 and the straight outs.


Zanjong   Afghanistan. Jan 01 2009 13:42. Posts 3076

Board: Tc 4h 9h 7d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 82.107% 82.11% 00.00% 8237 0.00 { 87s }
Hand 1: 17.893% 17.89% 00.00% 1795 0.00 { 66-55, AJs, KJs+, QJs, AJo, KJo+, QJo }

Seems fair, that is what i would give him as a reasonable bluffrange.


Zanjong   Afghanistan. Jan 01 2009 13:44. Posts 3076

You are right, its not easy to know what card will hit him or not. But I dont think he will bluff river 2/3/4/5 if he has KQ KJ QJ, just some ppl that goes for bigger bluffs, saying 2 streets in RR pot.


 

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