POKERSTARS GAME #19614838269: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/08/14 - 15:10:57 (ET)
Table 'Cevenola III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: castertroy24 ($51.35 in chips)
Seat 3: jdl22 ($85.30 in chips)
Seat 4: ccmoz ($48 in chips)
Seat 5: WAPNER ($50 in chips)
Seat 6: liltunafish ($52.65 in chips)
liltunafish: posts small blind $0.25
castertroy24: posts big blind $0.50
Holecards
Dealt to ccmoz 
jdl22: raises $1.50 to $2
ccmoz : raises $4 to $6
WAPNER: folds
liltunafish: calls $5.75
castertroy24: folds
jdl22: raises $12 to $18
tradercat leaves the table
ccmoz : calls $12
liltunafish: folds
Flop (Pot : $42.50)
jdl22: bets $30
ccmoz - sucks! fold pre flop or shove???
no info on villian
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CCMoz United Kingdom. Aug 14 2008 13:47. Posts 925 | | |
shove pre flop vs a random? |
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CCMoz United Kingdom. Aug 14 2008 13:50. Posts 925 | | |
my plan was to get it in on non ace or king flop... |
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n0rthf4ce  United States. Aug 14 2008 13:50. Posts 8119 | | |
the action is ridiculous id fold pf to his 4bet |
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cariadon Estonia. Aug 14 2008 13:51. Posts 4019 | | |
If you raise for value there is no reason not to get it in. He can get away from ak on a shitty flop whereas you have half of your stack in and an ace or a king flops too often and even then you cant fold.. = imo in these positions he is not out of line often... UTG v UTG1, two of the tightest preflop raising and 3beting positions... either call preflop or be happy to get it in preflop = |
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cariadon Estonia. Aug 14 2008 13:54. Posts 4019 | | |
n0rthface, is this also true for 400nl and 1knl ? I've seen JJ+ do the same thing and wouldn't villain slowplay AA or KK some % of the time? As played i would call... only reason i ever call preflop is you know what !! |
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n0rthf4ce United States. Aug 14 2008 13:55. Posts 8119 | | |
| | On August 14 2008 12:54 cariadon wrote:
n0rthface, is this also true for 400nl and 1knl ? |
depends, but if im 3betting pf folding is awful |
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cariadon Estonia. Aug 14 2008 13:57. Posts 4019 | | |
folding preflop or flop? i guess preflop cause if we call the 18 raise our hand is pretty much face up, right? =
in these positions though... air isn't as much in his range i would guess, especially with the scary raise ! |
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Oly United Kingdom. Aug 14 2008 14:02. Posts 3585 | | |
im not quite sure if peachy is saying to fold preflop, but when he 4bets you are 100% in a push or fold spot. your call is pretty messy. |
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CCMoz United Kingdom. Aug 14 2008 14:04. Posts 925 | | |
i realise my call was bad... but vs a random with no reads / stats is it EV+ to shove or fold? |
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its UTG vs utg +1 i think you coulda flatted pre but as is i feel like ur pretty behind |
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