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Handnr: 1098571
Submitted by : hiems

PokerStars Hand #232924728944: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2022/01/17 10:26:17 ET
Table Celuta 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Lloydering24 ($37.76 in chips)
Seat 2: C.Jordan2000 ($238.97 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($112.06 in chips)
Seat 4: 3000shots ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: B6BOBBY ($87.21 in chips)
Seat 6: davidabcdefg ($104.65 in chips)
C.Jordan2000: posts small blind $0.50
Hero: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to Hero QdTd
3000shots: raises $1.50 to $2.50
B6BOBBY: folds
davidabcdefg: folds
Lloydering24: folds
C.Jordan2000: folds
Hero: calls $1.50

Flop (Pot : $5.50)

   7d4h9h
Hero: checks
3000shots: checks

Turn (Pot : $5.50)

   7d4h9h5s
Hero: checks
3000shots: checks

River (Pot : $5.50)

   7d4h9h5s6s
Hero: bets $8.50
3000shots: folds
Uncalled bet ($8.50) returned to Hero
Hero collected $5.22 from pot
Hero: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $5.50 | Rake $0.28
Board  7d4h9h5s6s
Seat 1: Lloydering24 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: C.Jordan2000 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Hero (big blind) collected ($5.22)
Seat 4: 3000shots folded on the River
Seat 5: B6BOBBY folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: davidabcdefg folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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hiems   United States. Jan 17 2022 17:58. Posts 2757

Solver is meh about overbet size and prefers just normal sizing.

though basically same EV.

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Jan 17 2022 20:12. Posts 2112

was your solver developed in the 19th century because you're telegraphing river

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

hiems   United States. Jan 17 2022 21:41. Posts 2757


  On January 17 2022 19:12 Santafairy wrote:
was your solver developed in the 19th century because you're telegraphing river



Of by telegraphing you mean I only rep 8x for value with this size, it doesn't matter theory-wise so as long as I have enough/not too many bluff combinations for what I'm repping. At least thats my understanding of poker.

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Jan 18 2022 10:14. Posts 2112

what hands do you think you have here?

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

hiems   United States. Jan 18 2022 13:48. Posts 2757


  On January 18 2022 09:14 Santafairy wrote:
what hands do you think you have here?



Idk why don't u just go ahead and get to your point instead of being all cryptic about a spot I already said solver prefers a normal sizing.

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Jan 18 2022 14:45. Posts 2112

my point is if you play the rest of the range that you're supposed to have here differently then it's useless

the solver is telling you what to do on river? what about how you got there?

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

hiems   United States. Jan 18 2022 16:00. Posts 2757


  On January 18 2022 13:45 Santafairy wrote:
my point is if you play the rest of the range that you're supposed to have here differently then it's useless

the solver is telling you what to do on river? what about how you got there?



U realize even simplified strategies will have at least 2 bet sizes on river, sometimes 3.

U can have 8x along with condensed value range in a normal sizing and have a polarized range with 8x only as value for overbet size and I don't think there's anything wrong with that theory wise.

That being said solver likes just having 1 bet size on river. Buts it has it has 0 ev bet -0.01ev overbet at superlow freq. There's nothing wrong theoretically with this size.

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Jan 18 2022 16:21. Posts 2112

size should be 0 if all your value hands have bet a previous street

and if you never lead until river on this runout you're a retard

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

hiems   United States. Jan 18 2022 16:25. Posts 2757


  On January 18 2022 15:21 Santafairy wrote:
size should be 0 if all your value hands have bet a previous street

and if you never lead until river on this runout you're a retard



Lol...so ur saying all if my 8x should have bet already.

The retard is you cause that is obviously retarded.

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Jan 18 2022 17:02. Posts 2112

yes, that would be retarded, which is why i believe it's what you'd do

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

Santafairy   Korea (South). Jan 18 2022 17:16. Posts 2112

you posting this and going "wew i checked the solver and it says the size should be a little smaller" is fucking masturbatory bullshit

>win hand
>pretend to be enlightened kasparov who analyzes wins too and conclude your size is slightly less than perfect
wow great play bro

this would be like pierce brosnan opening a handsome blog and uploading a picture of himself being 12/10 and going "do you think a windsor was right here or should i have used a half windsor instead"

except instead of being the high stakes beauty of pierce brosnan you're more in seth rogen attractiveness stakes which makes this hand dumb as fuck

you can call me exploitable but i insta call shit like this all day with any pair or ace and it's always right because the river bet screams "I am a Retard who is Pokering by Bluffing and then Jerking Myself Off with a Solver Afterwards"

look in your HH for this texture runner runner gutshot with FD and see what you're doing. what i think doesn't matter. i don't play this way. look for yourself so you can know

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

hiems   United States. Jan 18 2022 18:33. Posts 2757

Lol I'm not saying that at all.

Not going to debate u any further if u think leading 100% of all 8x on turn is a reasonable strategy idk what to say. You are obviously wrong lol...

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Jan 18 2022 18:47. Posts 2112



never said that get your fucking eyes checked

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

CrownRoyal   Oman. Jan 18 2022 23:42. Posts 11385

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