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Handnr: 1060590
Submitted by : TimDawg

PokerStars Hand #3178373008: Holdem No Limit ($2/$4) - 2015/11/23 2:57:42
Table #10204118 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: PLR_8539297TM ($632.70 in chips)
Seat 2: PLR_2514580DG ($748.50 in chips)
Seat 4: PLR_7919326US ($226 in chips)
Seat 5: PLR_4156318LC ($484.10 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($463 in chips)
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PLR_7919326US: posts small blind $2
PLR_4156318LC: posts big blind $4

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero 6s5s
Hero: raises $10 to $10
PLR_8539297TM: folds
PLR_2514580DG: folds
PLR_7919326US: folds
PLR_4156318LC: calls $6

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $22.00)

   8c5c5d
PLR_4156318LC: checks
Seat sit down
Hero: bets $7
Table deposit $400
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PLR_4156318LC: calls $7

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $36.00)

   8c5c5d9d
PLR_4156318LC: checks
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Hero: bets $26
PLR_4156318LC: raises $80 to $80
Hero: calls $54

River (Pot : $196.00)

   8c5c5d9d4s
PLR_4156318LC: bets $293.54
Hero: calls $293.54

Showdown
PLR_4156318LC: shows 5h4h (a full house, Fives full of Fours)
Hero: Mucks 6s5s (Three of a kind)
PLR_4156318LC collected $781.08 from pot

Summary
Total pot $783.08 | Rake $2.00
Board  8c5c5d9d4s
Seat 1: PLR_8539297TM mucked
Seat 2: PLR_2514580DG (button) mucked
Seat 4: PLR_7919326US (small blind) mucked
Seat 5: PLR_4156318LC (big blind) showed 5h4h and won ($781.08) with a full house, Fives full of Fours
Seat 6: Hero mucked 6s5s

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traxamillion   United States. Nov 25 2015 22:43. Posts 10468

I'm inclined to fold river; people don't bluff you off your perceived range on the turn here often at all because the bottom card pairing makes your overpairs so strong. Not like he can raise 89 for value. Since I would expect this spot to be underbluffed and cannot exclude any value from villain's range

Sure he was probably valuecutting himself on the river if that 4 didn't come but that would have been virtually his only value hand you beat.

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traxamillion   United States. Nov 25 2015 22:45. Posts 10468

As the pfr esp from UTG I get how hard this is to fold though, especially vs an aware villain


Fayth    Canada. Nov 26 2015 00:58. Posts 10085

we wouldn't beat 45 on the river, we chop

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

TimDawg    United States. Nov 26 2015 03:08. Posts 10197

Yeah, I should fold

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

NeverFelted   . Nov 26 2015 03:11. Posts 56

seems like hes repping 67, which is less likely with you having a 6. Most flush draws don't raise turn, unless he has maybe 10j Clubs. Hard to fold, especially if you've been pounding his blind.


TimDawg    United States. Nov 26 2015 04:06. Posts 10197


  On November 26 2015 02:11 NeverFelted wrote:
seems like hes repping 67, which is less likely with you having a 6. Most flush draws don't raise turn, unless he has maybe 10j Clubs. Hard to fold, especially if you've been pounding his blind.


No, he only reps boats when he overbets. My blocker to the straight is pretty worthless

He only reps 88/99/85/95/45 and never has a bluff. It's a pretty easy fold. I just had a brainfart or something and clicked call

Also he was a fish. And fish just never bluff like this

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

Ryan Neilly   United States. Nov 26 2015 04:26. Posts 1626

its really close i wouldnt be to result oriented.

with stats and or reads this is much easier and player dependent


ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Nov 26 2015 18:47. Posts 5070

I wouldn't fold it personally especially after that flop sizing, ranges are just so wide going in to the turn. Against some super passive fish or nitregs you can find a fold I guess, but would def never fold vs anyone competent

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fira   United States. Nov 27 2015 03:10. Posts 6345

^agree... folding river would be a very exploitative play


traxamillion   United States. Nov 27 2015 13:38. Posts 10468

Obviously it's exploitative; that is the point. I think the spot is underbluffed


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 27 2015 16:11. Posts 15143

I'd cbet bigger vs a fish personally

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traxamillion   United States. Nov 28 2015 02:46. Posts 10468

Doubt solver calls every trips 100% in hero's spot


Ryan Neilly   United States. Nov 28 2015 06:29. Posts 1626

midian always words my thoughts well


Fayth    Canada. Nov 28 2015 18:38. Posts 10085

pretty sure it doesn't for 1.5x pot

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Nov 30 2015 14:40. Posts 5070



This is the range that hero gets to the river with given this action in Simple Postflop using the range I open preflop for hero and a standard-ish BB defending range vs MP 2.5x raise. I didn't have any of the relevant suited connectors or A5s at 100% frequency as they make decent 3bet bluffs to balance value, I'm not sure how the results would change if they were at 100% weights, but in this case hero never folds trips given this action

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