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Submitted by : napoleono

PokerStars Hand #113359459696: Tournament #877280489, €1.80+€0.20 EUR Holdem No Limit - Level XXVI (20000/40000) - 2014/03/16 16:14:44 CET [2014/03/16 11:14:44 ET]
Table 877280489 39 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: subarou62 (1457371 in chips)
Seat 2: 2fish4u (1324952 in chips)
Seat 3: millionai174 (492986 in chips)
Seat 4: momobaggio94 (301506 in chips)
Seat 5: 7dobermann7 (580779 in chips)
Seat 6: 030209 (260590 in chips)
Seat 7: Dahwelh (241520 in chips)
Seat 8: le nap0 (2797544 in chips)
Seat 9: leduc13130 (1253758 in chips)
subarou62: posts the ante 4000
2fish4u: posts the ante 4000
millionai174: posts the ante 4000
momobaggio94: posts the ante 4000
7dobermann7: posts the ante 4000
030209: posts the ante 4000
Dahwelh: posts the ante 4000
le nap0: posts the ante 4000
leduc13130: posts the ante 4000
millionai174: posts small blind 20000
momobaggio94: posts big blind 40000

Dealt to le nap0 AdJh
7dobermann7: folds
030209: raises 216590 to 256590 and is all-in
Dahwelh: folds
le nap0: calls 256590
leduc13130: folds
subarou62: calls 256590
2fish4u: folds
millionai174: folds
momobaggio94: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $865,770.00)

le nap0: checks
subarou62: bets 400000
le nap0: raises 2136954 to 2536954 and is all-in
subarou62: calls 796781 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1340173) returned to le nap0

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $3,259,332.00)


River (Pot : $3,259,332.00)


le nap0: shows AdJh (two pair, Eights and Threes)
subarou62: shows 5d5h (two pair, Eights and Fives)
subarou62 collected 2393562 from side pot
030209: shows 7dAh (two pair, Eights and Threes)
subarou62 collected 865770 from main pot
030209 finished the tournament in 25th place and received €17.57.

Total pot 3259332 Main pot 865770. Side pot 2393562. | Rake 0
Board  8d3d4d8c3s
Seat 1: subarou62 showed 5d5h and won (3259332) with two pair, Eights and Fives
Seat 2: 2fish4u (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: millionai174 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: momobaggio94 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: 7dobermann7 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: 030209 showed 7dAh and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes
Seat 7: Dahwelh folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: le nap0 showed AdJh and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes
Seat 9: leduc13130 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

FML. With 25 left for 1/4th of all chips in play. 72/42 whale

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napoleono   Romania. Mar 16 2014 11:25. Posts 771

Flatting pre seemed like the better move as I dont want to commit PF with AJo against some of the bigger stacks. What you think?

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chris   United States. Mar 16 2014 12:09. Posts 5498

i like a minraise to isolate the guy and create a sidepot to play for in the event someone calls.

if you had a sidepot, i would like leading this flop because you have the ace of diamonds and you aren't folding, but don't mind if villain folds. so i think bet / call the flop

it's a shame that guy held. GL

5 minute showers are my 8 minute abs. - Neilly 

napoleono   Romania. Mar 16 2014 12:51. Posts 771

Meh, if I minraise its lmost 1M in the pot, so it would feel kinda weak to fold (and it would be super good odds as well). Also flatting looks a bit stronger than iso-ing. Dunno really. Probably such a marginal spot, it does not matter that much.

BTW, didnt bet/call because the guy was a huge maniac whale, was 100% sure he would lead and if we were to get it in, I wanted to have fold equity by my side, rather than to call his all-in raise.

ended up busting 6th 66 < a10. Gotta flip better ^^

 Last edit: 16/03/2014 12:59

chris   United States. Mar 16 2014 17:53. Posts 5498

how did you finish up?

i think you can minraise because the guy is a short stack and by flatting you let opponents squeeze you out a lot more and you really don't want another person flatting behind you, either. very few people will be capable of 4betting after you with anything less than AK or JJ+

while that guy may be a maniac, you have to consider that you still only have ace high. it is good that you want to have fold equity with a check/raise shove but maniacs rarely fold after putting more chips in the pot and this a scenario where you don't mind sweeping out that short stack and collecting the dead money from the other guy.

if the maniac is getting his hand in there no matter, what, a c/r or b/c doesn't make much difference and you just have to hope for the best. i still like leading because i think you are over valuing the fold equity you have in a tourney of this limit. in other low stakes games you still see stuff like this once in a while (or at least i did) but generally people aren't cold calling with 55 pre and getting it in on that flop.

5 minute showers are my 8 minute abs. - Neilly 


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