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Full Tilt Poker Game #20815313820: Table Baltic (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:52:52 ET - 2010/05/13
Seat 1: afklml ($100)
Seat 2: Xo4u2Tuza ($220.45)
Seat 3: Dr Koks ($105)
Seat 4: Rob The Slob ($108.55)
Seat 5: Babykillerface ($263.05)
Seat 6: Hero ($101.50)
Babykillerface posts the small blind of $0.50
Hero posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #4

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
afklml folds
Dr Koks folds
Rob The Slob raises to $3
Babykillerface folds
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $11.50
Rob The Slob has 15 seconds left to act
Rob The Slob raises to $26
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $101.50, and is all in
Rob The Slob has 15 seconds left to act
Rob The Slob folds
Rob The Slob adds $17.45
Uncalled bet of $75.50 returned to Hero
Hero mucks
Hero wins the pot ($52.50)

Summary
Total pot $52.50 | Rake $0
Seat 1: afklml didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Xo4u2Tuza is sitting out
Seat 3: Dr Koks didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Rob The Slob (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Babykillerface (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Hero (big blind) collected ($52.50), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #20815304754: Table Prelude (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:52:29 ET - 2010/05/13
Seat 1: ravagee ($125.35)
Seat 2: PDima ($140.45)
Seat 3: Hero ($100)
Seat 4: fleemeeee90 ($103)
Seat 5: Oberguru ($101.85)
Seat 6: CookbytheBook ($541.90)
Hero posts the small blind of $0.50
fleemeeee90 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Oberguru folds
CookbytheBook folds
ravagee folds
PDima raises to $3
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero has requested TIME
Hero raises to $11.50
fleemeeee90 folds
fleemeeee90 stands up
PDima has 15 seconds left to act
Xenodor adds $100
PDima raises to $24
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $100, and is all in
PDima has 15 seconds left to act
PDima folds
Uncalled bet of $76 returned to Hero
Hero mucks
Hero wins the pot ($49)

Summary
Total pot $49 | Rake $0
Seat 1: ravagee didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: PDima (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Hero (small blind) collected ($49), mucked
Seat 4: fleemeeee90 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Oberguru didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: CookbytheBook didn't bet (folded)
Full Tilt Poker Game #20815301452: Table Thirsty (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:52:21 ET - 2010/05/13
Seat 1: ISkippdWrk2Play ($206.85)
Seat 2: juniehoney ($43.50), is sitting out
Seat 3: Babykillerface ($109.95)
Seat 4: honortheBlix ($110)
Seat 5: CookbytheBook ($122.35)
Seat 6: Hero ($105)
CookbytheBook posts the small blind of $0.50
Hero posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #4

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
ISkippdWrk2Play folds
Babykillerface folds
honortheBlix has 15 seconds left to act
honortheBlix raises to $2
CookbytheBook folds
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $8
honortheBlix has 15 seconds left to act
honortheBlix raises to $21
Hero raises to $105, and is all in
honortheBlix folds
honortheBlix adds $11
Uncalled bet of $84 returned to Hero
Hero mucks
Hero wins the pot ($42.50)

Summary
Total pot $42.50 | Rake $0
Seat 1: ISkippdWrk2Play didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: juniehoney is sitting out
Seat 3: Babykillerface didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: honortheBlix (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: CookbytheBook (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Hero (big blind) collected ($42.50), mucked

Full Tilt Poker Game #20816172302: Table Baltic (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:31:12 ET - 2010/05/13
Seat 1: afklml ($132.45)
Seat 2: Xo4u2Tuza ($175)
Seat 3: Dr Koks ($157)
Seat 4: dalleray ($105.50)
Seat 5: treppex ($107.55)
Seat 6: Hero ($191.10)
Hero posts the small blind of $0.50
afklml posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #5

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Xo4u2Tuza raises to $3.50
Dr Koks calls $3.50
dalleray folds
treppex folds
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to $13.50
afklml has 15 seconds left to act
afklml folds
Xo4u2Tuza folds
Dr Koks calls $10

Flop (Pot : $31.50)

   
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Xo4u2Tuza stands up
Hero bets $16.50
AillemKall adds $100
Dr Koks calls $16.50

Turn (Pot : $64.50)

   
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero checks
Dr Koks checks

River (Pot : $64.50)

   
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero checks
Dr Koks has 15 seconds left to act
Dr Koks has requested TIME
Dr Koks bets $127, and is all in
Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $127 returned to Dr Koks
Dr Koks mucks
Dr Koks wins the pot ($61.50)

Summary
Total pot $64.50 | Rake $3
Board:
Seat 1: afklml (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Xo4u2Tuza folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Dr Koks collected ($61.50), mucked
Seat 4: dalleray didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: treppex (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Hero (small blind) folded on the River

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On May 14 2010 12:10 mnj wrote: [QUOTE]On May 13 2010 16:11 edzwoo wrote: Well if you get 3bet a lot, then there are a few ways to adjust. You can back down and tighten up like you are, but my favorite is to bring the noise and start 4betting. .

standard edzwoo

for me, when i'm getting 3bet a decent amount i 4bet bluff, when im getting 3bet a ton i call in position a lot.

AQ hand if vilain hasn't a % 3bet > 10 it's a fold pre.( OOP , reverse implied odds ...)
flop the board is really bad , I give up. (his range hit more this flop than you by far )

at what point is it ok to just ship over the 4 bet? Like how much do you think I should pay attention to betsizing. I mean a 4 bet is usually 20-26 percent of your stack and my question is what is the most optimal bet size, and do you ever bother 5 betting it back.

If you bet 30% of your stack you're commited.

Basically , you don't 4bet , 5bet shove a specific range.
Your 4 bet range 5bet shove depends on the %3bet %4bet of vilain and position (eraly or late position , IP/OOP)

I prefer by far 4bet bluff with A5s- than AQ

On the last hand, I think it's best to fire/shove the turn if you get something, or get equity. Like if the board gives you straight draw on the turn, or a flush draw, or something, I would play it same here, since it's a pretty bad board for C betting, most of the time villain has a medium pocket pair, and when the turn becomes a 2, he ain't folding 88,99,TT. May get him to fold 66,55, or AK, but I don't know enough about the villain to know here.

The 4bet size I think in general should be around x2,5 the 3b or around there. You want good leverage, but you don't want to give people odds is a good way to think when it comes to bet sizing. So at 5-10 (to make it easy) someone bet 30e, your 3b should be around 100-105, under that and they get better and better odds at calling, over and you create too much dead money. The reason for making the 4b a bit smaller because we almost always put our oponent to the exact same decision, and the size won't matter, and we're getting a better price, creating less dead money, allowing us to 4b bluff at a higher frequency.

Example, so someone 4b to 310, opponent shove and you were bluffing, you fold. If you made it 255, you'd save 55 each time you do it

I wouldn't 4b in the blinds an UTG opener either, if you start doing that, most utg ppl play like 10% of their hand, the range you're representing is stupidly narrow, And if you get action, you better have AA KK AK, and if you only 4b with those from the blinds vs utg, you're exploitable.

I've had good succes with flatting, but I have to do it with AA,KK as well, as AQ, AK hands vs utg, and just know that I prolly won't win a huge pot, and got for some value.

No.
The only reason you 4 bet 25% of your stack is the commited thing.
if you have to 4 bet more than 30% , shove is superior.
(If vilain is not a nl2 grinder who don't get basic maths obv )

edit : yup don't 3 bet UTG with AQo lol

It's fine to 3bet utg alot imo as long as you're IP, a lot better than 3betting from the blinds.

top 10% of a range still has boatload of shit he won't want to get it in with without history, range of like TT-AA AK is top 4% or even less.

i agree, 4betting is wildly +ev, but you are prob even more +ev just calling their 3bets and letting them play terribly post flop

On May 14 2010 14:44 Bigbobm wrote: i agree, 4betting is wildly +ev, but you are prob even more +ev just calling their 3bets and letting them play terribly post flop

gold advice i think