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mnj   United States. May 13 2010 16:22. Posts 3848
having a somewhat hard time adjusting to the .5/1 game

ppl 3 bet somewhat frequently and squeeze quite light as well.
i've made these adjustments
-stop opening AXs ep
-calling somewhat early with 22-88
-3betting 88-JJ almost always to prevent myself from getting 3 bet
-utg range no longer always includes KJs ATs



i guess i'm looking for general feedback or some helpful tips. one situation that did occur today ALOT was me opening ATs-AQs utg and getting 3 bet by button. Do you guys prefer calling here? I have a hard time playing on many flops as we're playing pot control on the few flops we do hit an A and we have to pretty much c/fold on flops we dont hit. I feel like against a wide range calling with suited connectors 89+ is good to defend more flops with?

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barbieman   Sweden. May 13 2010 17:10. Posts 2132

My advice is to move down to at least nl50. So that you can make money improve your game.
Get a subscription for video training site and look at some good videos, and just study, study.

Edit: ok, i sound like an ass. But it sounds to me like you probably move should down and work on your game.
my view on 3bet pots, don't flat 3bets oop, it sucks. If someone is 3betting you a lot ip, I'd A) change table, B) 4bet almost only for value and stacking off with something like TT+, AK+.

 Last edit: 13/05/2010 17:18

edzwoo   United States. May 13 2010 17:11. Posts 5911

Well if you get 3bet a lot, then there are a few ways to adjust. You can back down and tighten up like you are, but my favorite is to bring the noise and start 4betting. The thing is, you're probably getting 3bet more than at NL50, but still not actually a lot.

What I mean by that is just because you open Axs and get 3bet more frequently doesn't mean you should be folding it. It's still probably +EV, just less than at a lower limit because a reg is smart enough to take some of that away from you. You really can't do anything about it but just accept that your winrate will probably drop a little. Further proof of this is if you're super uncomfortable 4betting someone's 3bet; that's because they may be 3betting more, but they're still not very balanced and more often weighted toward value.

Now if you're just getting absolutely stomped on, check your database and see if Axs type hands are consistently losing money for you. That's when you stop opening it.


Mariuslol   Norway. May 13 2010 17:19. Posts 4742

If the games are as you're describing, cutting out AXs ep is smart, it's smart in most games anyway.
If 1 other guy calls a 3b, it's profitable to call with a medium/small pair just for set value, and usually if you call utg+1 and there were a few callers behind you, if you call, more people will call as well, Don't know if It'd cut out 88,77,66,55 that can't be correct adjustment.

If people are 3-betting you light, just 4-bet get it in with JJ,TT etc,

And you almost ALWAYS want to avoid playing ATo utg, because of the reverse implied odds anyway.

And when it comes to squeezing, I'm not experiencing it a lot myself on those stakes, but if you do, here are some of my thoughts on squeezing.

I know that people who like to do it, usually don't stop until someone gives them a reason to stop, or if they've been doing it too long, they won't stop because when you keep doing it, you get adrenaline, and you become more and more aggressive, kind if addictive. It is a move that looks extremly strong, but people who are good have some method to the madness.

They generally won't squeeze if a nit opens from the first positions, and generally not if there are shortstacks in the pot, because they usually come along because of all the dead money.
If the preflop raiser is loose, they usually squeeze with a very strong range, if it's a more tag'ish guy from middle/late position, they squeeze with more speculative hands as well in the mix.

If a Tag from CO opens, and 2 tag behind calls, he knows the 2 tag who's calling have marginal holdings, otherwise they would 3b, and the tag's range is wider from CO, so it's tons of dead money, and you just need to get the first guy who opened to fold.

Oh and, if you're squeezing yourself and do get called, I think it's good not bet unless you think he will fold, or you are willing to bet/shove get it in on the turn

And if people are 3-betting a ton in pos, you should just leave table and find a better, I find it much better to have tight nits behind me than fish on my right. Also the correct adjustments is go tighter, and 4b lighter.

Ok, sorry for the rant, but I think I have lots of good points lol

 Last edit: 13/05/2010 17:22

Mariuslol   Norway. May 13 2010 17:20. Posts 4742

What someone above said, if you get 3b and you're oop, FOLD or 4b get it in. Never call


NewbSaibot   United States. May 13 2010 18:39. Posts 4947

You can also try increasing your raise size. Make it 5BB's utg. You'll have to tighten up a little but not as much as if you were 4betting, and it really gives him awkward stack to pot ratios to try and mess around with you versus.

bye now 

mnj   United States. May 14 2010 13:06. Posts 3848


  On May 13 2010 16:10 barbieman wrote:
My advice is to move down to at least nl50. So that you can make money improve your game.
Get a subscription for video training site and look at some good videos, and just study, study.

Edit: ok, i sound like an ass. But it sounds to me like you probably move should down and work on your game.
my view on 3bet pots, don't flat 3bets oop, it sucks. If someone is 3betting you a lot ip, I'd A) change table, B) 4bet almost only for value and stacking off with something like TT+, AK+.



i take no offense to your advice and find it very solid.


Sanai   United States. May 14 2010 13:27. Posts 643

How do you know if someone is 3betting you light during a session or if he's getting a nice rush of value 3bet cards...


 



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