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Bejamin1   Canada. Feb 21 2010 22:09. Posts 7042
Well I'm sure Nolan is feeling overjoyed right now but I'd like to take a few moments on this blog to recap the game.

1. Miller was excellent. He is easily the best goalie in the NHL right now, and that's nothing new.

2. Brodeur was not very good. His scrambling style, stick flailing, pad stacking bullshit was atrocious to watch. He used to feel unbeatable now I feel nervous watching his poor play. Luongo should start from here in.

3. Canada badly outplayed the Americans and spent most of the game in the Americans end of the rink.

4. The officials were clearly afraid to give the Canadians PP's until the Americans put the game out of reach. How is it possible to out-shoot the opposition 30-15 through 40 minutes, out-chance them 19-6, play the entire game in their end of the rink, and only get one measly PP? My personal feeling is that with the tournament on Canada's home soil the officials are afraid of appearing biased and don't feel comfortable giving Canada PP's. It's looking like home field disadvantage as far as the officials doing their job properly.

5. I estimate based on the above. If the game was called properly Canada would have had 10-12 PP's to the American's 4.

6. It was very clear that the Americans had no answer for the strength and skill of the Canadian players when they keep the game simple and work the puck down low. Absolute dominance by Canada for 60 minutes.

7. The reality is that in a tournament like this it's one game playoffs and anybody can win if they get lucky. The Americans were absolutely dominated for 60 minutes tonight. In a 7 game series Canada would win easily. It's not close. As a Canadian fan my only anger is the play of Brodeur, Pronger, and Neidermayer. Seabrooke should be given more ice with Keith and Neidermayer should be the 7th guy because he's been downright awful on the defensive side of the puck.

8. The Americans are unlikely to make the finals, and if Canada consistently played the way they did tonight they're the favorite to win it all despite the Russians being so deep in skill.

9. Much will be made of the Canadians having to play 4 games in 6 days. The game against Germany should be a walk so the extra game won't be any excuse. It's nothing these guys aren't used too. On top of that with two extra bodies in the lineup and lower average on ice time for just about everybody there will be no excuse about the amount of games.

I think that about sums it up. Anybody else with any thoughts? TLDR ?

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Jamie217   Canada. Feb 21 2010 22:15. Posts 4351

Yeah Miller was unreal but team canada definitely couldnt finish either... I think duncan keith has played amazing on d and i agree that pronger and niedermeyer should be playing the least out of anyone.

I think crosby has played like crap as well

and luongo should absolutely start the rest of the way


Newblish   Canada. Feb 21 2010 22:20. Posts 560

Some people, myself included think lecavalier should have been part of the roster. The roster as a whole was obviously solid and didnt need much improvement.. but i think he should have been part of it. Its pretty difficult to come up with a roster for this team, but i honestly dont see how he was not part of it.

Second, I was right when i said Luongo should have been the starter, it was obvious against the swiss. I was telling that to everyone and they all said i was crazy. Its his building, he was incredible against Norway and was just playing better overall this season in the NHL.

Third - jesus fucking christ that was biased officiating. I mean, i have no words to describe how ridiculous that was. Like you said Ben, Canada should have had 10+ penalties(and thats honestly quite modest).

Guess there isnt much else to say.. The Americans know that they won purely because of Miller and that they are complete outmatched in every other aspect of the game. Just didnt go Canada's way, oh well.


Bigbobm   United States. Feb 21 2010 22:20. Posts 5511

Woooooo Woooooooo
Sounds like the excuse train is pulling into the station

Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket 

Bejamin1   Canada. Feb 21 2010 22:49. Posts 7042


  On February 21 2010 21:20 Bigbobm wrote:
Woooooo Woooooooo
Sounds like the excuse train is pulling into the station



Oh really? Excuses you say?

In a seven game series with these same exact team rosters where luck is less of a factor Canada wins and it's not even close. I'd bet a million dollars against you on it.

You'd never take that bet at 1:1 odds, hell you probably wouldn't take it at 5:1 because you watched your team get ass-raped tonight for 60 minutes and know that they were very lucky to win. In one game eliminations anything can happen. Sometimes the shitty team wins. The shitty team won tonight. Doesn't make a shred of difference. The Canadian team basically beat the shit out of the limp-dick American squad for 60 minutes and got unlucky not to win. It happens. I'm feeling much better about Canada's chances of winning gold after watching them play tonight, bet you can't say the same about the Americans who will be lucky if they even medal.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

Newblish   Canada. Feb 21 2010 22:54. Posts 560


  On February 21 2010 21:49 Bejamin1 wrote:
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Oh really? Excuses you say?

In a seven game series with these same exact team rosters where luck is less of a factor Canada wins and it's not even close. I'd bet a million dollars against you on it.

You'd never take that bet at 1:1 odds, hell you probably wouldn't take it at 5:1 because you watched your team get ass-raped tonight for 60 minutes and know that they were very lucky to win. In one game eliminations anything can happen. Sometimes the shitty team wins. The shitty team won tonight. Doesn't make a shred of difference. The Canadian team basically beat the shit out of the limp-dick American squad for 60 minutes and got unlucky not to win. It happens. I'm feeling much better about Canada's chances of winning gold after watching them play tonight, bet you can't say the same about the Americans who will be lucky if they even medal.




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Red9   Canada. Feb 21 2010 23:25. Posts 7447

dbl post

I will grind you into dust.Last edit: 21/02/2010 23:26

Red9   Canada. Feb 21 2010 23:25. Posts 7447

to get to the gold thell have to get by russia on wednesday and thats gonna be a sick match to watch..too bad its not for the gold though

I will grind you into dust. 

Bigbobm   United States. Feb 21 2010 23:33. Posts 5511

Lol quit being grumpy losers.
At least Jamie had some class about it

Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket 

Jamie217   Canada. Feb 21 2010 23:37. Posts 4351

yeah I mean theres no point whining about it...lotta games to go hopefully we can see a rematch later on


Bejamin1   Canada. Feb 22 2010 02:09. Posts 7042


  On February 21 2010 22:33 Bigbobm wrote:
Lol quit being grumpy losers.
At least Jamie had some class about it



Oh right. That's what happened. Typical American revisionist history at work? Note that my blog post is simply a breakdown of the way I saw the game. I complimented Miller on a tremendous game and said I felt that Canada badly outplayed the Americans but came up short which can happen in single game elimination formats.

Then you decided to make a lame comment about how I was making excuses for Team Canada?

In response I called you out on you're shit. I made a statement that is obviously true. You would never in your life risk a huge proportion of money that the USA would beat Canada with these same rosters in a best of seven series at a 1:1 ratio. What does that tell you? That deep down when you're faced with dropping the bravado and doing a calculation based on logic and +/- EV you know that Canada is the better team and would therefore not take the bet.

This also means that my so-called excuses are just and accurate summary of the hockey game.

I am extremely passionate about hockey and there's no way in hell I'm going to back down when some asshat comes onto my blog to insult my analysis of the game. I embarrassed you for your stupid remark and I don't feel bad about it at all.

I don't care that Canada lost, I'm not sore about it at all. I was sore after the Swiss game. I was angry with them for not performing up to expectations. Tonight Canada played about as well as a hockey team can and I have no issues with their performance. I'm upset that Brodeur was the guy put in net and I'm praying its Luongo going forward because Brodeur is clearly done and he struggled badly. I'm also upset that the officials were clearly afraid to give Canada PP's even though the Americans were fowling all night long because A) Canada had the puck most of the time and B) they were simply unable to keep pace with the Canadian onslaught.

I'll bet you $100 that we can sit down and watch the game tape that I can pick out at least 10-12 clear penalties. I'm not talking about a slight non-call that is a 50/50 whether the official makes the call and heavily influenced by fan bias. I mean like a blatant penalties that nobody could argue after watching the video evidence. There was a shit-ton of blatant non-calls that the Americans got away with until they had the lead. Then all of a sudden the officials felt comfortable giving Canada a PP or two because shit the Americans are leading 4-2 and have had 4 PP's to Canada's 1 PP thus far in a game during which 65-70% of the play has been inside the USA blueline and shit son that just doesn't make any sense at all does it.





Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

nolan   Ireland. Feb 22 2010 18:28. Posts 6205

benjamin: omg, if we best of 7's we'd smoke them blah blah blah

reality: champions win, losers come up with excuses.

all that matters is the W, you canucks know that.

On September 08 2008 10:07 Baal wrote: my head is a gyroscope, your argument is invalid 

Bejamin1   Canada. Feb 24 2010 22:22. Posts 7042

Honestly Nolan I don't mind losing the way we lost. Had we been outplayed and lost because we didn't give our best I would have been mad. I'm certainly mad that Brodeur played like shit and mad that we didn't start Luongo. The Canadians gave it their all in dominated the game and when you lose like that it's okay. Sometimes the best team loses. Canadian hockey still dominates. It's not close. I'll kindly remind you who kicked your ass for the Gold in Salt Lake .

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

 



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