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Mariuslol Norway. Dec 31 2009 17:35. Posts 4742 | | |
Started watching Tommy Angelo's video's after recommendations from a fellow lp'er.
Was really interesting and cool to watch.
Here are my notes
Right view: (Anything that isn't wrong view)
- Seeing things as they are, having no delusions.
- Example of wrong view: When we are result orientated (When we base an alayzis of a decision on how things turn out, rather than basing it on the decision itself.) Happens when we analyze a betting decision, quitting decision etc.
- Right view: Not being results orientated (result orientated just an example)
Tilt
- "Tilt is any non A-game performance." (Tired, under bankrolled, emotional unstable, etc.)
- Anything that changes your good decisions, to making bad decisions, is tilt.
Being results orientated effects our evaluation
Example: We make a play, it didn't work out, and we think we made a horrible play, and can easily put ourself on tilt, even if the play might have been pretty good.
The professional:
- The little Angel/voice on your shoulder
- What if there was a guy, who had to make money of poker, or die
*All of his decisions will be based on his poker, what he eats, when he sleeps, what he thinks, anything in his controle, it's all metagame for this fictional character*
- What if all "my" decisions were based on maximizing my poker profits?
* Will influence on how I will behave (wouldn't badmouth the casino, want people to be happy, and come there, want players to come there and play. So last thing would be, say something bad about the Casino).
- What if all my decisions including what I say, were based on profit, what would I say, what would I do (How you can use "The professional" as a guide).
More examples of wrong view
- The whole idea by being bugged all day by a hand is something you want to let go
- Any time you think "I finally got a hand, I finally won a pot etc" let it go
- "There was this total fish at the table" (There's no fish/donk/at the table, wrong view) let it go (Look at them as trees instead lol)
- Having a big pair, waiting for an Ace to come (terrible view)
- Hating anything a fish(tree) /regular does is wrong view
Look at things for what it is, there's no room for fear
The gray area
That part of poker strategy evaluation, when you just don't know what the right play is or was, and you never will. And it's built in the nature of the game.
"The decisions that bother us the most matter the least."
(Decisions where your EV was 50% wether you would have bet or folded).
In our mind we're latched to take one side or another
- You don't want anything in/around the grey area to cloud/bother you mind. Don't get stuck in the quagmire of the grey area. All it does it bring us down
Belive and accept that a lot of decisions are very close, and neither would make a diffrence
- Suggestion: Recognize when you've come upon one of those, analyze them, and think what you should have done, then move on. FAST!
(Usually these decisions who get loooong threads on the forum, with a myriads of opinions who's right and wrong, and people fight to the death about it. When you find these, move along).
Interessting fact: 75% of all poker players think they play better than the other 75%.
The grey area is so huge, allows any of us to over evaluate our own play.
More on right view
- A good poker player wants to put himself in +EV spots, by evaluating profitable situations
- A guy who finds a table which looks really juicy, might say: Wow, a table full of fishes(trees) who sucks ass, I'm better than all of these isn't evaluating, he's juding
Judge versus evaluate
Judging is when you bring in type of words which move towards wrong thinking. When you attatch to those words, it detracts from your ability to evaluate.
Improving from the top up and the bottom up
A diffrent approach to how you spend the energy that you put toward improving your score.
- Improve not only your A game, but your C game aswell
- Conciously spend 50% of your energy improving your C game, so when you're losing/playing bad, you don't lose that much, and can get faster back to your A game.
Example of C game:
- You get stuck, and you start playing looser, chasing your losses
(A lot has to do with awareness)
Be honest with yourself, say to yourself (When Im stuck i play to loose, i need to keep tight).
- Bad beats
- When you play bad (compounding tilt)
(When I play bad, I'm very harsh on myself, and go on tilt)
- When too tired, when drunk, berating the fish, so on so on.
(Monster leak to critizise other players.)
Ungracious, un generous way to treat another human being. If your motive is purely profit, there's a much higher road to take.
Summary of Right View
Myself:
- To look at yourself with no delustions, no distortions. It means to be able to step out of ourself and observe ourself in a situation, and be able to objectively evaluate what we are doing without emotional entanglement. This is the rightest view of all, that can help us at the poker table, and anywhere we are. Especially if we find ourself struggling with strong emotions we wish we didn't have.
Example:
Driving, it's one of the most irritating thing we do. People who might be calm and compassionate, lose their cool when driving.
(Right view does not say, you should be good all the time, you should improve yourself. Right view is just the act of being able to view yourself, and being able to say "I am angry now" Without saying "there's something wrong with me for being angry"
- Better off if you can label your emotions
My opponents:
- They're an obstacle, in the way (Look at them as just tree on a golf course). And not hold them accountable, or be emotionally evolved with them. And will let you properly evaluate things.
My play:
- Be constantly aware that you have different levels of preformance. A B C game. What right view does, doesn't pretend your in ur A game all the time, opens your eyes when you're in their C game. Everyone has them.
- Being aware of the diffrent level you preform at, and being aware of which ones your in.
- Knowing your actual weaknesses and strengths within the betting strategy. (Calling big bet to bluff, not being comfortable being the one who bluff etc)
- With no delusions or distortions, step outside yourself to give a good evaluation
End thought
What makes something right view, is the lack of wrong view. (The lack of judgement, the lack of emotional attachment.) The thing added on to a "story". Just tell it honestly.
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phrenik Canada. Dec 31 2009 17:47. Posts 98 | | | |
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Mariuslol Norway. Dec 31 2009 17:54. Posts 4742 | | |
Wha, no link, just notes I took on wordpad watching video's at deuces.
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vegable United States. Dec 31 2009 22:01. Posts 2453 | | |
cool summary, i copy / pasted for view later :D |
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RaiZ France. Dec 31 2009 22:13. Posts 1503 | | |
Wtf ? You're overthinking too much really. You're like the guys who see the world with only variables when you could let the destiny chose your path (luck for the most part) and live the life. The day when i'll see everything predictable, it'll just be my death. |
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Mariuslol Norway. Jan 01 2010 10:33. Posts 4742 | | |
the thing about how I view my oponents really hit home to me, and I really think it helped me. I've committed the crime of thinking all my "bad" oponents were just stupid fishes, even thought I never berated them in chat. And I get hung up on decisions which maybe was 50/50. So really helpful stuff all in all xD
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