What is this All-In EV Graph?

All-In EV is how much you should be up if your cards held, if your winnings are above the EV, it means your running good .

9 out of 10 times when you see an allin ev graph, it will be from a player who wants the world to know how bad he runs.

It's an ok approx for how good/bad youre running, but it's flawed.

For example, say you have AA and 3-bet someone with QQ, they call. Flop comes 483 rainbow, you bet they call, turn is a Q. You bet, they shove, you call, your equity to the river is approx 5%, river blanks and you lose. HEM will say that you were supposed to lose money on that hand and will effect your all-in EV calculation, when you were way ahead on the flop.

On June 21 2009 18:07 MayZerG wrote: All-In EV is how much you are expected to win given the equity of your hand in all in situtations. if your winnings are above the EV, it means nothing .

On June 21 2009 18:17 egood wrote: It's an ok approx for how good/bad youre running, but it's flawed. For example, say you have AA and 3-bet someone with QQ, they call. Flop comes 483 rainbow, you bet they call, turn is a Q. You bet, they shove, you call, your equity to the river is approx 5%, river blanks and you lose. HEM will say that you were supposed to lose money on that hand and will effect your all-in EV calculation, when you were way ahead on the flop.

Yeah, it doesn't show coolers/suckouts that happen one street before allin, I find it less useful than something that shows you how good you got your money in would be.

EV graphs are what bad players use to blame their losses on

i would know because i've been there, done that

I think if youre going to use EV for anything, you should use it when you're running above expectation. I.E. shoving a low PP on the turn based on a bad read and sucking out on the river. If you notice a string of bad decisions and you are just getting lucky, you might need to reevaluate your game before you go busto.

On June 21 2009 19:18 Into Infinity wrote: EV graphs are what bad players use to blame their losses on i would know because i've been there, done that