It burnsss

1) money went in way ahead

2) money went in way ahead

3) totally standard, you beat 99% of his range here, huge cooler

4) money went in way ahead, you should be stoked about this hand

5) money went in way ahead

6) played perfectly against villain u described

7) just call his 10 cent river bet here, simply because if you raise you're never getting called by worse. played fine otherwise

8) well from my experience minraises = nuts at NL2. so i would personally have just done some pot control and played a medium pot here lol (yes im a sick nit). hes getting sick odds to stack you with 500 BB stacks with a set. just ask yourself if you think he's doing this with more hands u beat then hands that have u beat, and play accordingly. if you think he gets it in with Ax here then by all means get it in. it is 3 handed tho so getting it in would be the default for top two i guess. just scares me how he saw flop for 2c, yet pot is $10

9) if you think you might be beat on the turn alot of the time u can call flop and c/c river for sure. its a board 99xx which doesnt make much sense for a villain to go crazy on without a boat or trips, so if he's a retard get it in but otherwise maybe just play a medium pot again

10) id just raise/shove or fold flop. there are too many turn cards that screw things up, like bringing a 4-straight, or a king/ace. how would he play AJ, or Jx? if you think he's raising, then get it in. and that turn is good normally.

btw raise more preflop, if ppl are calling ur raises with 79o, make it more expensive for them. 10c is normally good, and try to make it 12c/14c if you are still getting calls

and also, no one runs worse then u. well u seem to run pretty bad at least. where abouts in australia do u live?

What exactly do you mean by "money went in way ahead"?

I live in Sydney, Manly

I know nuts about 6 max, so take my comments with a pinch of salt...

Hand 2: At FR people are usually happy to shove PF with KK. At 6 max people are always happy to shove PF with KK, unless you're facing someone really, really, really tight.

Hand 3: With a PP, you'll hit a set 1 in 8 times, so you the very, very maximum raise you can call with a low PP is 1/8th of the ffective stack size. However, you have to assume that you won't stack him every time, and sometimes you'll lose. You can use the 5-10 rule to make things simple: if the raise is 5% or less of effective stack size, call. If more than 10%, fold. If in between, use your jdugement. At PS NL2, the stacks are so huge in relation to the blinds that you can almost never fold a small PP, even to a decent reraise. In fact, since a reraise usually means a fantastic hand they won't be able to let go off, it's even more tempting to call (always assuming you're getting the right odds, of course). In this case, set over set is a definite cooler.

Hand 6: This is a cooler, I think. Even at FR I wouldn't fold this, let alone 6 max! There'll almost always be a possible straight on the board somewhere. And on the river, he has so little money left you might as well call. I don't know whether it's worth checking the river on a board with a possible straight and flush. Someone better than me will be able to tell.

Hand 8: Never fold! You played it right! Especially when the table is short handed!

Hand 9: At FR I've missed out on so much value by not getting it all in with trips, regardless of the kicker. But probably someone who knows 6 max can give better advice based on villain's betting behaviour.

Hand 10: With an overpair, I'd definitely reraise the flop.

He means the money went into the pot while you were ahead of him, and he basically got lucky on later streets. That means if you could have seen his cards, you would have done the same thing. i.e. you did the right thing.

you're not really misplaying most of your hands tbh :> just variance getting the better of you

p.s. playing 16/13 in 6max hurts my eyes

I'm gonna look at hands later, but when you play 15/13 with a Went to SD of 21% and a won$@SD you know you are running bad.

On May 30 2008 09:24 rogier wrote: you're not really misplaying most of your hands tbh :> just variance getting the better of you p.s. playing 16/13 in 6max hurts my eyes

what do you suggest i play?

I feel like chiming in, mostly since I play 6-max and I think lachlan and storyteller mostly play FR, but even so their advice is very good.

Hand 1: This is played fine, just wanted to point out a terminology thing. A cooler is where you get unlucky by the opponent having an unusually strong holding and there's no way you could have known he was that strong. Usually this means when the money goes in the pot, you were behind, but there's really no way you could have gotten away. Set over set is the easiest example of this, both players are quite justified in going all in with their set but one of them was just "coolered" by the deck. This hand is a bad beat, which is where you had the better hand but the opponent sucked out on a later street.

2: Don't call pf, he might fold a non-ace flop with an Ax hand and even though you will lose to an ace spiking sometimes you will win most of the time.

3: Setmining like this is perfect since you are so deep. At higher stakes it often won't be worth it to call 3bets with low pocket pairs but for now this is good.

4: nice read

5: run better plz, well-played again

6: sucks but you can't fold to that river raise, it's not very big and there are still lots of hands you beat. I play this the same.

7: lachlan's advice here is an important concept to get a handle on, it's one of the methods of pot control. Raising an opponent on a scary board often narrows his calling range to the portion of it that is scaring you. Especially after you pot control by checking behind on the turn, his river bet should be a bit scary because as you have noted, in general NL2 players are passive and don't bet or raise very much. He might do this with an Ax hand or a ten, and raising here will usually get called or folded by Ax and reraised by a ten. It's just not worth it.

8: It's hard to put him on 66 because you have one of them, so I can't easily put him on exactly 44 especially with an ace out there. Microstakes people love their aces. If you think he can be doing this with Ax, play it like this all day. This was well-played and a bad beat.

9: Wow forget what I had here before, I didn't even see the flush draw. Pair and flush draw is a fairly strong combodraw and in a raised pot I would try to get it in on the flop since you are basically flipping against an overpair and you probably have some fold equity (which is where you make money with aggressively played draws). But in a limped pot your fold equity will be very small since the pot is so small, and being a limped pot overpairs are less likely to be in his range. This means the 9 on the turn, which would probably be one of your outs if this were a raised pot, might not be any good since top pair is a big part of his limp -> raise flop range. Sets also improved to kill even your flush outs here, so I would probably flat his raise to try to keep the pot small on the turn, hope to improve to a flush on the river (or best case scenario hit a 6!) and hope he doesn't go nuts.

10: Unless this player is very passive postflop (and you need a decent sample on him to properly judge aggression factor), I say reraise flop and get it in. Overpairs are great on NL2 precisely because people call with crap like 97o and then can't fold a pair. This hand makes the greatest case for bumping up your preflop raises. If you had raised to .10 or .12 here (I would .10 personally, .12 seems a bit big unless the table likes to call you at .12 anyway) I would be a lot more comfortable about getting this in. You expect to beat Jx mostly.

On a side note, what lachlan said here is true and I want to explain it a bit further: the board pairing here actually helps you, not hurts you. Paired boards hurt flushes/straights because those hands are afraid of sets improving to full houses. Paired boards help sets and overpairs. Sets can improve to beat better hands, and overpairs simultaneously can improve to beat two pair and are less likely to be facing a set. When the 7 hits, you can basically remove 77 from his range and you now beat J9. J7 (unlikely since it's such a poor hand) and 97 beat you now but since the second seven hit they are less likely as well. With 77 out of his range, it makes it more likely he has something like top pair, which is good for you. The only time I hate seeing a board pair when I have an overpair is when it pairs the top card. If I have AA on K73 and a K hits the turn, I now lose to 33, 77, and Kx and that is just about everything that might have called me on the flop.

Edit: Don't worry about your stats, 16/13 is fine. Most people at higher stakes play looser than that but they forget that NL2 is played 250bbs deep and so tighter is better. Reverse implied odds are not your friends, and implied odds are. And I want to echo one more time that in general it looks like you're playing quite well.

Thanks a lot for all the feedback guys, i didnt expect to get this much and it really helps

edit: and its a massive psychological boost

On May 30 2008 09:30 fenner wrote: Show nested quote + On May 30 2008 09:24 rogier wrote: you're not really misplaying most of your hands tbh :> just variance getting the better of you p.s. playing 16/13 in 6max hurts my eyes what do you suggest i play?

I think your numbers look fine considering you are just starting out.

OT: Thanks for the advice on that AK hand, TianYuan. I've been on a pretty big downswing at NL100 and it's started to make me lose some confidence that I really know what I'm doing there.

All are ok
7. you do know there's a call button right? You dont have to raise or fold, just call his halfpot bet. Yeah yeah, you dont beat much but people are retarded.
10. The 7 is such an OMG AWESOME card it's like "Yay he doesn't have a set of 7s and if he has J9 I now > him! So c/shove is good, on the river dunno why you lead exactly but definitely not folding once you do. Anyway I don't think he's folding any jack on the turn so shoving is ok.

On May 30 2008 09:57 rgfdxm wrote: OT: Thanks for the advice on that AK hand, TianYuan. I've been on a pretty big downswing at NL100 and it's started to make me lose some confidence that I really know what I'm doing there.

Np, it's a weird spot and I dunno if I'm entirely correct on what's best here

u pretty much got coolered in most of those hands, so like rogier said its variance
u should open up ur game more since ur playing 6max too...
i tried 2nl 6max playing super lag and it's pretty fun cuz everyone is retarded and plays fit or fold