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Fox . May 20 2008 09:46. Posts 3110 | | |
So i wanted to start out by talking about the recent Randy Couture situation. Looks like that he'll basically be able to fight Fedor after Fedor faces Tim Sylvia. Before I was hoping for a great fight between sylvia/fedor so people could see that sylvia isn't some weakling and he would give fedor a hard time.... but now i want fedor to crush him in round 1 without any issues so that we can hurry up and schedule the randy/fedor fight of the decade.
Ok so now on to UFC 84 discussions.
B.J. Penn Vs. Sean Sherk
I've said over and over again that I've wanted to see this fight more then randy/fedor. I still do. I love smaller fighters and it doesn't get any better then this. This is really a 50/50 fight on paper and i think most people assume that it's bj in the 1st/2nd round or Sherk by a Decision. I semi disagree with that. I think that sherk can actually finish BJ in the later rounds. If BJ gasses or gets injured then with sherk's tank he can mount him and finish him. What's very interesting to see is how well sherk's bjj does against bj. Yeah i mean we all agree that BJ has some serious jits but sherk against florian and franca his positioning (which to me is 85% of bjj) is incredible. His ability to achieve dominant position is so crazy and against someone like penn who has like a top 5 guard in mma that's gonna be so insane to see. I know keanu who's a BJJ practitioner is basically drooling at the mouth to see this ground game unfold.
My prediction is sherk by late round stoppage. I really think that he can push the pace and crack BJ and finish him late. This is a bold prediction since sherk never really finishes anyone but I think this is the day he will.
Wanderlei Silva Vs. Keith Jardine
This fight has KO written all over it. Jardine likes to sit in the pocket and land punches/kicks while Silva likes to get in the pocket and land hooks and clinch. I think that silva has a small flaw that he has major issues against counterpunchers who like to outbox and use wandy's desire to move forward against him. Crocop/Liddell. While that is true i don't think jardine is that type of fighter. He doesn't like to stay out or move in he likes to get into that comfort zone and is completely ok with slugging it out.
Wandy has lost his last 3 fights and people are like "he's over the hill!" ok listen people... the guy lost to Crocop, Dan Henderson, CHuck lidell. Two of those guys are not only the worst matchup for him but also two of the greatest fighters in history(say what you want about crocop but fedor himself said crocop was his toughest fight). Dan Henderson is the man who's given Rampage his hardest challenge since being in the UFC and he's also the guy who has held 2 belts and beaten guys like Big nog... Losing to those guys is no more shameful then say Matt Hughes losing to GSP.
Jardine on the other hand kos forrest beats chuck and now he has to fight wandy? God if this dude beats wandy he better get a title shot or the ufc is the gayest org of all time. I really wish wandy would use some of his ground skills more often in fights. He has really good bjj and great clinch... working with randy now he probably has improved wrestling... i don't see how he can't take jardine down and just beat him up. I'm ok with standing up and showing an exciting fight, but if you have the option take him down Wandy! I think wandy wins this fight by decision. I think that if he uses his ground game this is his fight to lose... however he doesn't like to do that... so it's hard to say. But i go with wandy because i think he has the toolset to win. I HOPE he wins by dominating Ko in the 2nd round to serve notice that he's back and he's waiting for rampage. Say wandy beats jardine then also possibly wins in a rematch with chuck or something he should be in line for a title shot. The 205 division is full of contenders to rampage's throne heck we have two others fighting on this card as well.
Wilson Gouveia Vs. Goran Reljic
Reljic has a sick ground game. Wilson is also got a nice ground game but trains with ATT. I think that if Wilson keeps it standing he should win this fight either by tko/sub/decision whatever. Problem is if he gets in a sticky situation he may try to go to his roots of jits and reljic would have an advantage there. This is Goran's first fight in the ufc but this might be a setup fight against another BJJ guy to give Goran an opening win. Look for Goran to get a takedown and Wilson allowing it because he's used to the ground but then getting out worked in the jits department. Goran by sub/decision.
Tito Ortiz Vs. Lyoto Machida
Machida is one of my fav fighters. The guy fights like no one else in the world. He's this elusive ninja who has weapons from all facets in mma. He's only finished one fight in his UFC career but he's like 4-0 against some good fighters. If you've seen his fight against hoger and nakamura that should tell you that his ground game is legit and against tito who is just 100% ground game and 0 standing I think he won't be able to dominate machida as much as he think he can. I think this fight comes down to who's able to fight there game. If tito can continue to get a hold of machida and take him down machida is losing a decision. If machida can stay away from tito and pick his spots then machida wins a UD. I think ths is machida's fight to lose and he's a perfect fighter to face tito. He's not agressive and tito will have to chase him across the ring. And even if he does get him down machida's good enough to not really have any issues. I think this is machida by UD. People think he's gonna finish tito. Tito is nearly impossible to finish and only Chuck has done so and chuck is like the perfect fighter to face Tito. Chuck is to Tito as Rampage is to Chuck... Machida though isn't far off. Also look for machida to get a title shot between forrest/rampage winner or get a fight against jardine possibly. I think if forrest beats rampage he'll get a fight against jardine. If Rampage beats forrest it will be machida.
Thiago Silva Vs. Antonio Mendes
rofl Thiago is gonna crush this guy. This is like can vs crusher and all they are doing is letting silva get more cage xp so he can be throw into the next teir of MMA fighters. Which should have happend already but whatever...
Ivan Salaverry Vs. Rousimar Palhares
wtf Ivan is still ALIVE!?!?!? he's like maurice smith.....'s FATHER. He's going against another fighter who's making his debut. Probably ivan by decision or submission because he's so experienced. I don't really know Palhares so i'm interested to see his game.
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou Vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura
If this fight goes to the ground I really see it in favor of nakamura. Nakamura is one of those guys who's really tough and really good but just not good enough to take on the best of the division. Sokou i have no clue what he's made of. His 3 fights are all so quick that it's impossible to tell what he's really all about. Well if he kos nak we'll know! based on the information i have i think nak wins by decision, taking it to the ground and controlling sokou.
Rich Clementi Vs. Terry Etim
Rich is really putting together some quality wins. I think that after a win or two he' ready to go against the elite of the division. Terry is a very long jits fighter who could give rich issues. I really am excited for this fight. I think it could go either way but i'm picking rich since he's on a roll and i love his balance.
Jon Koppenhaver Vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
This should be a good fight. I've seen yoshida fight before he's a pretty tough dude and that's exactly what war machine is. This is a hard fight to pick I'm going to go with yoshida on this. I've seen his ground and i think it's better then warmachine. It's really hard though because this looks like one of those fights setup to give warmachine a win so he can gain some steam. But i dunno yoshida is tough but maybe it's more that yoshida's previous opponents sucked..
Jason Tan Vs. Dong Hyun Kim
Dong Hyun Kim i do watch deep events.. but i don't recall him... but anyone who wins a lot in deep has to have some skills. I really can't pick this fight without information but since i'm a deep fan i'm going with Kim.
Christian Wellisch Vs. Shane Carwin
Um Shane Carwin by anything he wants? He's from denver therefore he's from my state of colorado and obviously he's a hero? In honesty Christian is a AKA member and that spells trouble. That camp is tough... I see Christian winning but I'm going to root for Shane... GO COLORADO.
This card is bonkers it has a lot of great fights. I hope that UFC can continue on this trend and for gods sake can we please stop doing TuF on champs so that they fight like once a year? While i want to see nog show off his skills to new guys I also want to see him submit everyone in the HW division.
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Loco Canada. May 20 2008 10:17. Posts 21004 | | |
nice writeup. this is going to be fun |
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Raidern Brasil. May 20 2008 10:30. Posts 4243 | | |
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NotSorry United States. May 20 2008 12:35. Posts 2603 | | |
I still don't believe all the hype on sherk's cardio. Even more so now that he won't have his "special helper" and Penn knows how to sprawl Sherk is going to be using alot of energy trying to get it to the ground. I say he gasses by the mid 2nd like he did vs Diaz.
I think this is a perfect fight for Wandy, Jardine is not a counter puncher, nor is Wandy, both like to get inside and swing till one is out. Jardine got KTFO by Alexsander. Wandy has a solid chin and is relentless, Wandy's got my money on him for sure.
Going by the theory that Soko is much more powerful and better grappler than Tito and how Lyoto schooled Soko, I'm going to say this fight won't be any different. Tito going for the take down for the GnP, while Lyoto works his chess game for the UD.
Thiago is going to destroy this kid, but stranger things have happened.
As for Fedor/Sylvia, I mean it's always nice to see Fedor in a fight, but there is 3-4 other people on the card that I much rather see Fedor fight that Sylvia. I don't see this fighting getting out of the 1st, Fedor via clinch take down to armbar in under 2mins. As for Couture still don't buy the hype he's 1-3 vs top 10 fighters in his last 4 fights. |
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Fox . May 20 2008 13:36. Posts 3110 | | |
NotSorry i don't know what your basis is for that Soko is a more powerful grappler then tito...
you're talking about a judoka who's lost in a grappling match to guys like karo who are 170.. vs tito who's fought arona in adcc to a decision and beaten someone like vladamir in a mma fight.
I'm not disagreeing that about machida's grappling skill but to say soko is better then tito in grappling is inaccurate. |
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Korea (South). May 20 2008 11:40. Posts 6817
Fight 1 (non-titlematch) he destroyed Hidehiko Hasegawa, then in the rematch he got a draw ; /
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