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So Randy Couture resigns from the UFC |
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KeanuReaver United States. Oct 12 2007 19:03. Posts 2022 | | |
And he had some things to say while leaving. The quote that really got my attention is this:
"The motivation for the decision is two-fold," he continued. "I know Fedor (Emelianenko) just signed with another organization and that's the only real fight that makes sense for me at 44 years old as the heavyweight champion of the UFC. That's the fight I wanted and if that can't happen it doesn't make sense for me to compete with all these other guys. And then obviously that's not going to happen now. And, two, I'm tired of being taken advantage of, played as the nice guy and basically swimming against the current with the management of the UFC. I have a lot of other things going on in my life that I'm doing just fine with. I don't need the problems. I don't feel like I get the respect I deserve from the organization, and that's motivation No. 2 for the letter of resignation that was sent today."
His first reason sounds at least somewhat legitimate, though whiny. Yes, Fedor and the UFC could not make a deal and that is really too bad for everyone involved with mma but it's not like the UFC heavyweight division is full of scrubs. They just so happen to have the 'other' greatest heavyweight in the history of mma in minotauro noguiera. While it's not on the level of fedor vs randy to call it a blockbuster fight would be an understatement. If Couture really is sincere about resigning because he was unable to fight fedor, then he would sign with m-1 to fight him there. But I doubt this happens.
It was his second reason that really irked me. To claim that that he doesn't get the respect he deserves is down right laughable. He is the first of the new age UFC fighters to be inducted into the UFC hall of fame. He has been given more ti<x>tle shots than any other UFC fighter in history. He retires after getting knocked out only to unretire and compete in a weight division he hasn't competed in in 5 years and is given an immediate ti<x>tle shot for crying out loud. What more can the UFC do?
In the end it came down to money, though. He was upset because he wasn't the second highest paid fighter like he was told. "All us athletes are all pretty tightly intertwined," he said. "You hear what other guys were paid signing bonuses and what other guys were paid on the record and off the record with bonuses. I've heard Chuck's numbers. Tito's numbers. Hughes' numbers. Quinton's numbers. Cro Cop, Wanderlei. I heard what they were offering Fedor, and it's insulting."
This is the type of thing that gives pla<x>yers like Terrell Owens such bad names. No, he doesn't make as much as liddell or mirko, but he's still one of the highest paid athletes in the UFC. He makes 250k a fight before bonuses, there are better fighters than Couture that make less than half that and are damn happy for the opportunity. Complaining about being only one of the highest paid athletes in UFC history instead of THE highest paid athlete in UFC history is ridiculous.
If Randy Couture wants to retire because he feels like there's nothing left for him to accomplish with fedor out of the picture, then so be it. But to talk like that about the UFC which has treated him like a king and practically deified him to the fans is just a slap in the face.
-Mehdi
P.S. my friend Gary pointed out that this may actually be good in the long run, and in a way he's right. There are some amazing fighters that make 40k a fight, and while that's more than enough to live and train on, that isn't enough to bring in top notch athletes from other combat sports...most notably boxing. If more fighters complain about pay and start signing with organizations like K-1, m-1, or EliteXC it will force the UFC to really up the pay scale for fighters. This will in turn cause a lot of athletes to choose mma instead of something else which will do nothing but good especially 10 years down the road.
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Zealeo Canada. Oct 12 2007 19:10. Posts 441 | | |
I can't see Couture actually wanting to fight Fedor. |
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Narious Canada. Oct 12 2007 19:28. Posts 4800 | | |
| | On October 12 2007 18:10 Zealeo wrote:
I can't see Couture actually wanting to fight Fedor. |
I can.
Heck, I'ld like to fight Fedor and I'm a 165 pound 6' guy who's never faught a ranked MMA fight. Why wouldn't he want to? Just cause he'll most likely lose? Fedor is widely considered the best in the world, and it's hard to immagine someone like coulture who's been a fighter for so long wouldn't want a shot at him. |
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Stim_Abuser United States. Oct 12 2007 19:29. Posts 7499 | | |
couture is not that good. nog would of won the ufc title from him ez. |
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Stim_Abuser United States. Oct 12 2007 19:33. Posts 7499 | | |
| | On October 12 2007 18:28 Narious wrote:
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On October 12 2007 18:10 Zealeo wrote:
I can't see Couture actually wanting to fight Fedor. |
I can.
Heck, I'ld like to fight Fedor and I'm a 165 pound 6' guy who's never faught a ranked MMA fight. Why wouldn't he want to? Just cause he'll most likely lose? Fedor is widely considered the best in the world, and it's hard to immagine someone like coulture who's been a fighter for so long wouldn't want a shot at him.
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youd die.
fedor is so violent and strong. i dont wanna see couture get beat to a pulp since hes so old. |
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Narious Canada. Oct 12 2007 19:45. Posts 4800 | | |
| | On October 12 2007 18:33 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2007 18:28 Narious wrote:
| | On October 12 2007 18:10 Zealeo wrote:
I can't see Couture actually wanting to fight Fedor. |
I can.
Heck, I'ld like to fight Fedor and I'm a 165 pound 6' guy who's never faught a ranked MMA fight. Why wouldn't he want to? Just cause he'll most likely lose? Fedor is widely considered the best in the world, and it's hard to immagine someone like coulture who's been a fighter for so long wouldn't want a shot at him.
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youd die.
fedor is so violent and strong. i dont wanna see couture get beat to a pulp since hes so old. |
Eh, I'ld certainly get hurt quite badly. Wasn't trying to make any claims about having a chance, but just that emotionally I'ld still like to fight him, and I can't immagine a guy like couture wouldn't feel the same way.
As far as the fight itself I agree coulture would probably get beat pretty bad and it wouldn't be a very close fight, but I still can't see a guy like that not wanting the shot. |
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Stim_Abuser United States. Oct 12 2007 19:58. Posts 7499 | | |
| | On October 12 2007 18:45 Narious wrote:
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On October 12 2007 18:33 Stim_Abuser wrote:
| | On October 12 2007 18:28 Narious wrote:
| | On October 12 2007 18:10 Zealeo wrote:
I can't see Couture actually wanting to fight Fedor. |
I can.
Heck, I'ld like to fight Fedor and I'm a 165 pound 6' guy who's never faught a ranked MMA fight. Why wouldn't he want to? Just cause he'll most likely lose? Fedor is widely considered the best in the world, and it's hard to immagine someone like coulture who's been a fighter for so long wouldn't want a shot at him.
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youd die.
fedor is so violent and strong. i dont wanna see couture get beat to a pulp since hes so old. |
Eh, I'ld certainly get hurt quite badly. Wasn't trying to make any claims about having a chance, but just that emotionally I'ld still like to fight him, and I can't immagine a guy like couture wouldn't feel the same way.
As far as the fight itself I agree coulture would probably get beat pretty bad and it wouldn't be a very close fight, but I still can't see a guy like that not wanting the shot. |
no i mean youd literally die if he was going full force. the man hits harder than anyone else ive ever seen. |
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Zealeo Canada. Oct 12 2007 20:31. Posts 441 | | |
I doubt he'd want to cap off his career by being manhandled by fedor is what I meant. |
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Fox . Oct 14 2007 16:03. Posts 3110 | | |
Yeah good post. I think that if randy defeats fedor he basically can solidify himself as the most desired coach in mma.
already having tyson taking down the LW division and forrest defeating shogun his set of guys are very strong and if he could defeat fedor at 45+ that just makes his career set in terms of money and what he wants. Also it pits himself against considered the greatest fighter in mma. Winning validates couture as the greatest mma fighter ever. I do think that couture's comments are weak in some ways, but they could because he was angry when he said them. In any case this really shakes up mma and one year from now we will look back and see this fedor/randy thing as a huge change in the sport. |
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pocakey United States. Oct 18 2007 05:31. Posts 280 | | |
I have to defend TO here even though it's not key to you argument. In the NFL contracts are not guaranteed. When negotiating, it is understood by both sides that all contracts are simply 1-year deals and are declared as longer simple so the team can amortize under the sal cap rules. The team can cut you and not have to honor the rest of your deal if you start sucking or get injured. As soon as contracts are honored by the teams in years 2+, then players like TO can be expected to honor then as well.
I've been sporadic with my interest in UFC/MMA. I've heard opinions that UFC isn't a rung below the others in terms of quality of fighters... is that so? |
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