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k2o4   United States. Sep 24 2007 10:18. Posts 4803
Played about 3 hours of live yesterday. Had $110 to play with on a $1/$2 table. Seemed like a pretty regular crowd with 3 good pla<x>yers and a few laggy ones. I sat into a semi run of cards with KQ, 99, 22, QQ... hit a set with the 22's and doubled but lost money on the KQ and 99. Then hit the QQ and got raised PF by a passive guy and folded em after getting about 40 in the pot - he ended up having KK and hit a set on the flop. Then my cards got very very cold for about an hour and a half.... folded so much that everyone kept saying "Jesus play a hand" so I knew my image was tight. Finally hit AJo, played it strong and took it with a contb on the flop. Then floped top pair out of the blinds and took that. So I was starting to get more involved. But 3 hours had gone by and I wanted to go home and take my tiny profit of about 45 dollars with me, so I decided to leave on my next BB. Then this hand.

I picked up KQs UTG, and with my image starting to loosen up I thought it might be worth a try. Here's how it went down:

NewB ($155 in chips) - Bet $10
Villain 1 (to my left, ~$180 in chips) - Call $10
Villain 2 (2nd to my left, ~170 in chips) - Call $10
Villain 3 (Big Blind, ~$400 in chips) - Call $10

Flop (Pot - $41):
Jh 5d Qc

Villain 3 - Check
NewB - Bet $25
Villain 1 - Fold
Villain 2 - Hesitates for a bit then calls $25 (I start thinking a straight draw for him)
Villain 3 - Calls $25

Turn (Pot - $116):
Jh 5d Qc 2c

Villain 3 - Check
NewB - Bet $50
Villain 2 - Quickly calls $50
Villain 3 - Fold

River (Pot $216):
Jh 5d Qc 2c Ac

NewB - Check
Villain 2 - Slight pause, then gently bets $75 (he's almost all in now, like $20 left). His betting hand looks like it is shaking, just barely. After completing the bet he leaned back in his chair a bit, put both hands in his lap, and stared at the rail. I told him that he put me to a tough decision and he said "there's a lot of money in there" and when the dealer asked me for a decision the villain said "give him time, he's thinking".
NewB - Calls

Showdown:
Villain 1 - KcJc for nut flush
NewB - KsQs for a pair of queens

NewB = broke T_T

All my instincts told me to fold, and looking back at the hand his body language told me what he was holding the entire time, but I just didn't interpret it correctly. The shaking hand thing was huge but I wasn't sure whether his hand was shaking or if I was just seeing things, cause it was very very slight. The shaky hand thing is a tell from "Caro's Book of Tells" for when someone has a monster hand, so when I saw that I started thinking "shit he hit a straight." But then when he got so passive in his body language I started remembering how that's what bluffers do... but that's what bluffers do AFTER they make an aggressive bet, and he bet gently with his shaky hand... didn't put it all together properly at the table, just saw it clearly afterwards. Plus the things he was saying all fit with someone seeking a call (reminding me of the great pot odds, asking the dealer to give me more time). So there was lots of reason to fold despite the fact that it would leave me walking out of there w/ about $60 and a $50 loss for the night.

I ended up calling cause the pot odds were somewhere between 4-1 or 5-1, and I really wanted to see if my instincts were right (that stupid thing we do where we want to see if our reading skills are accurate). Seeing as this wasn't money from my real BR but the money I'd won when my stepdad staked me, I wasn't so worried about losing it. So I made a kind of stupid call, IMO.

Well, that ends my live poker run here in rica. Learned a lot more about live games though, which was good. I have much more difficulty paying attention in live games, but it is more fun with the social atmosphere.

My Mistakes:

1) First mistake I made was on the turn. I completely underbet the turn. I was torn on what to do. In my mind I was very worried about 2pair with someone holding JQ suited. I also did not see the new flush draw at all (I suck at knowing the pot size and reading the board cards for potential hands when playing live, just not used to doing it yet and focus on other things, while online it comes naturally). In my mind I thought "I need to make a defining bet here that makes a straight draw pay and also let's me know if I'm up against something real". Then I got a bit scared cause of my short stack and no BR to rebuy, plus I wasn't sure of the pot size, and I ended up betting $50. I really should have bet $75 to $90, but then again if I was going that big I should just push because it would leave me with barely any chips for the river. I was scared to bet too big and just easily pay off 2pair or a set though = What do you guys think? Is that a push situation?

2) After fucking up on the turn, I should have folded the river. All the signs pointed to him making a hand that beat me, and with the A completing a straight draw, creating a possible larger pair or turning AJ or A5 into 2 pair, and also completing the flush, I think I should have folded. The board was bad, his betting pattern made the board likely to help him, and all of his body language said he had a big hand.

Other than that I played w/out error all night. Tends to be pretty easy when you're folding 90% of your cards =)

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Bejamin1   Canada. Sep 24 2007 10:27. Posts 7042

Easiest fold ever.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

devon06atX   Canada. Sep 24 2007 11:09. Posts 5460

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k2o4   United States. Sep 24 2007 14:22. Posts 4803

sorry, was putting up a bunch of old stuff at once =

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vegable   United States. Sep 25 2007 00:20. Posts 2453

HI NEWB whats up

Stir fry Normandy 

k2o4   United States. Sep 26 2007 08:37. Posts 4803

omg i have friends, me so cool.

hi salad. i'll go post in your blog too so you have a friend. awsum.

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NerO   United States. Sep 26 2007 23:24. Posts 2402

brett u'll always be #1 in my heart however horrible u are at this game ur on pace to beat logiabs record for longest grind( most hands played ) to grind outta micro stakes how many hands have u played on stars? email support and find out i wanna kno lol


k2o4   United States. Sep 26 2007 23:43. Posts 4803

way too many. I swear!

I spent some time doing Limit cash games and got up to 2/4 with a $1,200 BR. Then I tilted bad and lost it down to 500. Did some micro SNG's for a bit and won for a little, but started losing. Just switched to NL cash games at the end of august, so been doing it for a month now. I've got 22,000 hands so far.

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