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k2o4   United States. Sep 20 2012 01:19. Posts 4803
Hello wonderful LP world... do miss you guys, but what tends to happen is that if I don't play poker I don't wander here often, and then I don't post or read often, and then it's a drift away. Occasionally I have some weird desire to post something somewhere and I think of LP, usually at like 2am or in between classes or something, and I'll post and then forget I posted. It can be quite a while before I make it back here again. It's weird how that happens as you age, being an internet kid as I was, to not be in a daily engagement with a tight online community.

Anyway, that's my ramble, and now the point. It seems that there's some dislike of my title choices. Maybe it's cause they're not original. Maybe cause I keep using the same one over and over again. Maybe cause that repeated title sounds crazy to some people. Whatever it may be, I'm here today cause I had one of those inspired moments and I thought it would be nice to finally reply to some comments and explain why I keep using that same old annoying title over, and over, and over again. So with no further ado,

CANNABIS CURES CANCER
The comments edition




I use the title because I believe it to be true, and I'm fine with making a bold (or crazy sounding) claim that people will eventually catch up to. There's cautious, which is a good thing, and then there's stubbornness, which holds back progress. I've seen enough evidence to be convinced that cannabis has the power to not only slow tumor progression, but to also completely cure cancer. My definition of cure cancer may be a little different than your definition, so let me make it clear - by "cure cancer" I mean that someone has cancer, then they change nothing in their lives other than adding cannabis, and then they no longer have cancer. I hope that's simple enough. I know that this has occurred on our planet, that people have met that definition, and therefore I feel secure in speaking what I believe to be the truth in my title.

I get it - some of you are indoctrinated into the belief that you shouldn't believe, that you must doubt anything which can't fit into a test tube or hasn't been replicated a million times in a lab. That's fine, your needs will be satisfied... eventually. I've decided not to wait around like you though. I'm on a journey of letting truth flow into my life and not denying it, but embracing it. I don't blindly accept things, I require evidence just like you do. Just not as much. When I tell you the story about a 3 year old boy with a brain tumor who beat it by using cannabis oil, you just see anecdotal evidence and assume that there are too many unknown variables to be valid because it's not in a lab. You see reasons to doubt so you don't even investigate. But I see my brother, or my father, or myself, undergoing an experience and then being dismissed because my experience didn't happen in a lab where these doubters could watch me. I understand that by putting things in a lab you can eliminate variables from influencing the result and therefore be sure of cause. But I also know that you can witness something with your own eyes and know it to be true, and taking it into a lab is just a confirmation.

I'm not making this up about the kid with the brain tumor, and the story is well documented and actually quite epic... A 3 year old who's traditional cancer treatments have all failed, a desperate father who wasn't willing to give up on his son, and a daring journey to secure a medicine which his government deemed illegal and could land him in jail. And in the end, the fathers daring journey paid off, and his son lives.


  What would you do if your 3-year old son was stricken with brain cancer? Most parents wouldn’t think twice about bringing their child to a mainstream doctor, only to undergo modern-day cancer ‘treatments’ such as chemotherapy. This is what one father, Mike Hyde, from Montana did when his 3 year old was diagnosed with brain cancer, but the father doesn’t attribute his sons victory against cancer with the use of chemotherapy or any other mainstream treatment; the dad actually says marijuana oil is what made the young boy beat cancer. While the story isn’t recent, it is one that everyone should hear about.

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Doubt all you want, and fall further to the back of the pack as new truths emerge and reshape our world. That's fine, that's your choice and it's your right. But for those of us who are moving forward, it's going to be good.

And now to the comments:


  On September 16 2012 22:39 Carthac wrote:
You couldn't have come up with a worse title. Marijuana is useful for slowing down the progression of certain types of cancer. Curing it would mean it eradicates the spread of the disease.



Now that I've explained my view above, I think it should make sense why I use the word "cure". The language of "slows progression" is just cautious scientists, which I respect and understand, but it's just caution because there's so much skepticism that they don't want to overstep. They've just recently found that cannabis "stops metastasis in aggressive cancers", so you can see the evolution occurring. More data arrives which confirms what was obvious to many of us earlier, while those who are cautious held back on their conclusions at the time. Carthac, I'm glad to see that you are aware that cannabis does have healthy effects on cancer, and I'm sure as the science moves along you'll be able to grow with it =)


  On September 17 2012 17:14 NewbSaibot wrote:
I guess k2o doesnt read responses much anymore, but I've said time and time again that he'd do a far greater service to his skeptics if he cut the sensationalist bullshit and just created reasonable sounding topics. Saying "Pot cures cancer!!!1" is an immediate red flag and causes many people to just ignore the "evidence" and write off the information as likely bullshit, information which may in fact be quite valuable. His goal shouldnt be the preach to the quire, it should be to preach to those who are in doubt.



I think you make a very good, valid point here. And it makes a lot of sense. I'm still gonna behave differently though as I have a different goal in mind, but I agree that if my goal was to bring in the masses then there are better titles to choose. But this one is the most honest one to me, and I gotta speak my truth on this issue. I'm fine with sounding crazy or ridiculous now because I know soon people will catch up and a phrase like "cannabis cures cancer" will be common and normal. I'd rather be part of making that phrase normal to the masses, even if it means they won't read my posts. When they're ready, they'll remember those crazy, annoying, idiotic, sensationalist titles which that douche k2o4 used to post, and maybe they'll look up my post and read it then, maybe they'll find another source to get more info from, and then they'll know it too. That's my hope at least. Such an idealistic idiot I am.


  On September 17 2012 20:49 whamm! wrote:
he must be high when he wrote this



You're so busted for not reading, cause I didn't write anything, just copy/pasted something and put it in a quote. osnap



Thank y'all for the fun comments to reply to. Till next time.

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Sep 20 2012 02:53. Posts 8648

are you still dating that hot chick?

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TheHuHu3   United States. Sep 20 2012 04:46. Posts 5544

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Mariuslol   Norway. Sep 20 2012 06:53. Posts 4742

wat hot chick


2c0ntent   Egypt. Sep 20 2012 08:49. Posts 1387

k2o4 - maaaaaaaaaaaaah buddy

holy crap, just realized I didn't re add you when I reactivated facebook

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k2o4   United States. Sep 20 2012 10:31. Posts 4803

Married to the hottest chick I know, assuming it's the same hot chick you're talking about hoss.

2c0ntent aka?

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Sep 20 2012 11:54. Posts 8648

yea she made an lp acct that started with a 'z' i forget it though if thats the same one then nice work =D

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Critterer   United Kingdom. Sep 20 2012 16:14. Posts 5337

I dont think injecting a kid with marijuana oils AFTER he has already been through some extensive chemotherapy is a good test for anything.

The article you link about stopping metastasis in aggressive cancer is promising but also massively misleading in the way you present it. This is about cannabidol showing potentiol in animals, it hasnt even progressed to any real human clinical trials yet.

Also "Slows Progression" is not cautious scientist wording at all. It means EXACTLY that.

I'd like to qualify this by saying i do see the potentiol in marijuana as a medicine, but i think you are getting wayyyy carried away here.

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NewbSaibot   United States. Sep 20 2012 17:50. Posts 4944

Much better post k2o, I actually read it all the way through instead of skimming for "home run" statements. Anyway you apparently admit that you dont require much evidence to come to a conclusion and if a few people smoked pot and happened to have gone into remission, then you are going to directly attribute the pot to the remission. You even seem to be aware of the flaws of this, and simply say the rest of us are requiring too much proof to be convinced. Personally I'd like to see a clinical trial of 10,000 people smoking cannabis on a regular basis, each with any stage of cancer, and not be subjected to any other form of healing. If there was a remission rate of 80%+ I'd be convinced. Otherwise how can you not attribute this to other outside sources? If anybody has EVER healed themselves of cancer without cannabis, then CLEARLY other events can influence the spread of cancer.

What kind of large scale highly isolated studies have you learned of?

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jeffv8x_-_16   Belgium. Sep 20 2012 20:17. Posts 2835


  On September 20 2012 01:53 bigredhoss wrote:
are you still dating that hot chick?




  On September 20 2012 05:53 Mariuslol wrote:
wat hot chick




  On July 15 2009 21:23 zaragyemo wrote:
Pic of k2o4 and me




  On July 15 2009 21:36 bigredhoss wrote:
Show nested quote +




marry me?



  On September 20 2012 09:31 k2o4 wrote:
Married to the hottest chick I know, assuming it's the same hot chick you're talking about hoss.



bummer she turned you down huh, bigred

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k2o4   United States. Sep 20 2012 22:23. Posts 4803

lol jeff nicely done

I don't think it's the only way to cure cancer - I've seen stuff about diet having a huge effect also. If I got cancer I'd change my diet and get some oil. CBD (canabadiol) is the cannabinoid that is looking the most promising right now. I don't know how it's done or how we'll find a consistent cure with this, but I believe it will occur, and it will happen faster if the gov backs the fuck off and lets research happen freely. Big pharma don't like that though, nono.

I don't know about any large studies for sure and I don't remember the sample sizes in all the stuff I did remember to bookmark, but here's a picking of things to look through. Some are better than others, some have more loud sensationalist stylings while others are primary sources or news reports. Maybe you've seen articles or studies too that you can share, if so please do.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16908594

http://scholar.qsensei.com/content/y05d9

http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/abs/6603236a.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14570037?dopt=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18025276

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/marijuana-and-cancer_n_1898208.html

http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/...ool-against-cancer-3875562.php#page-1

http://blog.norml.org/2011/03/22/cann...ntaneous-tumor-regression-study-says/

http://blog.norml.org/2011/03/24/the-...ential-of-cannabis-36-years-too-late/

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/...marijuana-to-cancer-patients-1.409918

http://truththeory.com/2012/09/09/doe...esearch-says-marijuana-fights-cancer/

http://naturalsociety.com/marijuana-o...-3-year-old-son-beat-cancer-dad-says/

http://www.kxly.com/news/Nation-React...-/101270/680522/-/pcfguw/-/index.html

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3254.html

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x99d34_cannabis-cures-cancer_news?from=rss





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k2o4   United States. Sep 20 2012 22:32. Posts 4803


  On September 20 2012 16:50 NewbSaibot wrote:
Personally I'd like to see a clinical trial of 10,000 people smoking cannabis on a regular basis, each with any stage of cancer, and not be subjected to any other form of healing. If there was a remission rate of 80%+ I'd be convinced. Otherwise how can you not attribute this to other outside sources?



Btw I'd love to see that too, I really hope it gets done.

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Sep 21 2012 00:22. Posts 8648

yeap that's the one ! ;o

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Mariuslol   Norway. Sep 21 2012 05:23. Posts 4742

u guyz have so white teeths, i brush mine all the time, but can't get em that white!!


 



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