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Defeated... For Now
  k2o4, Jan 25 2008

I think it's important to realize when you're losing and accept that truth rather then deny it. That's why right now I'm admitting that I am losing @ NL200... and I just can't seem to beat it.



I think there's a lot of contributing factors, but the bottom line is that my stupid mistakes are killing me, and because of them my edge is not enough to make up for any suckouts I face. If I don't run into any suckouts I come out barely ahead. If I get sucked out on, I crash and burn. I don't have a very big edge at the limit cause I'm kicking my own ass with stupidity left and right.

I am not playing my A game. When I was playing NL100 I was on top of my shit, keeping myself calm, not being phased at all by coolers, putting people on hands, and most importantly I felt very confident about what to do in every situation. Now I am nearly always confused by betting patterns, can't put people on a hand, and am always worried about losing any money.

I thought moving up with 30 buyins would leave me with a big enough cushion that I'd be ok. I think I was wrong. I am way too worried about every single pot I lose and am put into tilt by the slightest thing going wrong. I'm making decisions to protect the money I have rather than maximize profit in the long run. I'm betting small on big hands cause I REALLY don't want people to fold and I wanna get some value... I'm betting big on weak hands cause I don't want to get sucked out on. I'm C Betting way too much in a hope to pull down any pot so that I can get some money back. It has turned into a sad desperate affair.

I was actually playing top notch poker for a good hour earlier tonight, but then I hit 2 coolers at the same time which basically erased my entire profit for the session, which lead me to make a bad tilty call-down... then I hit one more cooler and finally had the good sense to get off the comp. That all took me down to the point where I need to drop to NL100 again and rebuild.

My plan for now is to rebuild to a much bigger BR, at least $7,000 before playing NL200 again. I think if I can play with a big enough cushion I will be able to focus on good poker rather than fretting over every hand won or lost. I also think a bit of time rebuilding confidence and working on my game overall should be good. I think I can win pretty solidly @ NL100 considering how I've done so far and how much easier it is than NL200. I'm not giving up forever, just backing off for now cause the bottom line is that I am not good enough to beat NL200 yet.

I've got a shitload of hands from NL200 that I need to ask questions on so I will post those up slowly as I play NL100... that way I can be studying for my move back up. I am also gonna go crazy on any good CR videos about a LAG style @ NL200. If anyone has any suggestions please post em below. I also want to give a HUGE THANK YOU TO ALL THE POSTERS IN THE MEDIUM STAKES FORUMS!!!! I have received a lot of great advice and am very grateful for all of it. People have been very generous in replying to my million threads and a million hands per thread. I just hope that I can be good enough to add input as well in the near future, cause right now I don't even want to give advice to anyone cause I'm afraid I'll just encourage em play worse, hehe.

Might as well close with my NL200 graph over the entire run... sounds appropriate!









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So, NL200, yeah
  k2o4, Jan 24 2008

As you can see below I've recently started taking shots @ NL200. I've been very disciplined about it and followed a strict set of rules:

-3 tables max
-2 stupid mistakes and I quit the session
-1 tilty mistake and I quit the session
-Move back to NL100 if I lose more than 3 buyins.

So doing that I've been up and down a lot lately. I peaked @ a $6,500 roll, but then I cashed out $500 to cover some expenses coming up in Feb with the new apartment. Jumped back onto NL200 with 30 buyins and lost 3 and a half, so I went back to NL100. Worked back to $5,900 and tried NL200 again. Dropped 1.5 buyins, took a break, then won 1.5 buyins. So I'm sitting @ $5,900 and down about 1.5 buyins lifetime in NL200.

I'm getting better at it. That's for sure. But it's by far the hardest transition I've ever made and it has been quite tough. I am not giving up on it though. I really feel like I'm mostly just shooting myself in the foot with some horrendously bad plays. It's just much harder to get money out of people and I get frustrated and tilt it off. I'm also facing so much more aggression that ends up confusing me and also tilts me eventually. I really am my own worst enemy cause every single big pot I lost was by doing something I KNOW I shouldn't do, but I ended up doing it anyway because of either tilt or overthinking the situation, possibly even trying to overthink it cause I want to get a reason to be involved.

Anyway, I've been going over my hands pretty meticulously so that I can figure out how to improve and beat this limit. Just posted 2 new threads on the medium stakes forum which I hope get some replies. Here are all those hands again, cause I wanna try and get as much help as possible:


  Here are 2 hands that I feel like I spewed but I got lucky and it worked out for me. The first hand especially fits into that description. I really need a LOT of help and advice on these hands and fully expect to be berated for my idiocy, so flame away. Hands are in the spoilers.


1) Villain is super nitty TAG (7.5/6/3) reg who plays LOTS of tables (not sure how many cause he hides from search, but I see him everywhere). There are 3 questions I have about this hand.

A. I'm gonna be OOP and he opened 3x UTG with SUCH a tight PFR range... I can't fold AKs but I think that 3betting here is wrong. I did it cause it's just how I've always played, but I wasn't sure I was doing the right thing considering this guys image. It seems to me like calling and taking a flop is best rather than 3betting. Of course when he 4bets it's the nuts from such a tight player and I should have folded.

B. If I had just called preflop instead of 3betting, how do I handle that flop? It's a good flop for me but the queen kinda sux since it turns one of the pairs that I'm beating into a set or counterfeits my ace vs AQ... but otherwise it's not bad.

C. Considering how it was played (yes poorly) what do you do with that flop? I figured shove was my best choice.


As an end note, YES I KNOW THIS IS HORRIBLE. I was a bit tilty at the time which lead to my call of his 4bet... but once I hit that flop with that big of a pot, I think I'm going all the way.


+ Show Spoiler +





2) Villain playing loose @ 35/21/1.4 over 30 hands. How is my line here? I figure I'm 2 overs and a gutter on the flop. The turn puts me open ended. Was this spew or solid?


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And


  These are some hands that I feel I definitely misplayed, but am especially curious about the value I missed, cause I think I missed some. I've been playing a bit scared lately and not making as much on my winning hands. I posted these all together cause they have a similar theme and I don't want to spam the shit outta the forum. The hands are in the spoilers. Thanks for any help!



1) Villain playing 15/13/4 and opening like crazy from the button and cutoff. The button was very loose. I thought this was a great spot for a squeeze so I went for it. I've noticed @ NL200 so far that lots of people tend to check the flop acting first after 3betting, especially on these types of 1 high card 2 rag boards, and go for a CRAI, or will lead the turn if there's a check behind. This guy seemed kinda smart so I figured that I'd use that line on him to represent a bigger hand. When the Q came on the turn I kept up with that line making the bet but also being on a semi-bluff. I expected to take it down right there and was surprised that he called.

Here's the main question - How do I bet this river? Did I miss value here by shoving?


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2) Villain playing 34/26/2.6 over 23 hands and no other info. Did I miss value here? I checked the turn figuring that a bare J would fold to a bet and that if a flush hit on the river I'd have a good chance to get paid off. Maybe I should have bet smaller there to look like a scared attempt to represent the A, which may keep a jack in the running and probably induces a flush draw to come along. On the river, I didn't think anything other than another A would call more than a pot sized bet... was that a good sized river Bet?


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3) Villain 37/15/1 over 90 hands. He'd been calling a LOT of my PFR and was also being a bit of a station postflop. At this point I had him on a flush draw that didn't make it. He had a high bet river percentage so I thought checking the river might induce a bluff from a missed flush. Should I have just bet for value or is checking good here? He may have been on a J or 6 or a 5 too and I might get a call from those hands... and 78 just got there and beat me...not sure what the best move was.

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4) Villain playing 19/9.5/1/3 over 135 hands. I really wasn't thinking very much here. I guess I felt that since I had a boat I could allow him to draw at the flush free. I also thought that checking would encourage a bigger pocket pair to call a river bet. Maybe I was right but made the river bet too big? Overall not sure about my entire line... =

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Overall this month has been good in regards to NL100. I feel really confident in that limit and have done very consistently well. I am determined to be playing consistent winning poker @ NL200 in February the way I am doing it in NL100 right now. Let's close with a month summary up to this point:





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It's beating me
  k2o4, Jan 23 2008

Well NL200 is definitely kicking my ass. I win a bit and lose a bit, coming up even most of the time and then I make a stupid move, which tilts me a bit into a second stupid move and then I'm down. I quit and take a break and try again later. I drop down to NL100 and do great, win back everything I've lost, then I try NL200 again and the cycle continues.

The weird thing is that most of the time while playing NL100 I am very clear on what I'm doing, what's going on, and how to interpret peoples moves. At NL200 I'm running into much more aggression in the form of donks, check-raises, and 3bets, and it confuses me. I managed to make a great call of a bluff right when I sat down on a table and double my stack, and then within 10 minutes I'm having to rebuy cause I've lost it all through small stupid moves.

This is DEFINITELY the hardest move between limits I've ever had. 50 to 100 was pretty tough, but this is much worse. I think it's gonna take a lot of work to make this transition for me.

When I play a NL100 session I pull 1-3 hands out that confuse me. During a NL200 session I feel like 1 out of 5 hands that I am involved in are confusing, lol. Pretty sad =( I will go through my PT later tonight and pull all the confusing ones out and put down some threads. Luckily the 2 biggest losing hands of the night were on idiotic moves by me. I say luckily cause at least I know how to fix those cause they were plain stupid... so just don't do blatantly stupid shit in the future! But I've got plenty of hands where I just dunno what to do that are minor losers and some are even winners.

I have tried to play a bit more standard LAG @ around 22/19 or so instead of my looser LAG. I can pull it off @ NL100 but @ 200 I just can't play well enough postflop.

Anyway, probably down about 1.5 buyins @ NL200 today. Geh.



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New Car, New Apartment
  k2o4, Jan 18 2008

Well today has been quite interesting. And no, I don't have pics of a 45k porsche in here... I don't even have pics of the new car cause I have to pick it up tomorrow. It's only a saturn and I'm buying it cause my Rodeo's engine exploded.

Woke up @ 12:30 after staying up late playing NL200 and learning a LOT. Started the night spewing left and right but made it all back once I figured out what I was doing wrong and got a bit more disciplined with myself. From home I took my GF to the office so she could get some work done while I went and made the deposit on our new apartment. We've spent the last 14 days hunting for a place and we finally found a great 2 bedroom, 2 story with a basement townhouse for $625, and walking distance from our office, a movie theatre, and lot's of good restaurants. Bigtime score.

But the vexing part of the day was any moment in the car, as about 3 days ago it started making a rattling noise... which became louder and quicker and more annoying. I was hoping that the axel which we'd neglected to fix was just being more noisy than usual, but I was pretty sure that I was facing a loose rod in the engine. I've faced that problem before as all my previous cars were bought as cheap as I could get em, mostly off of craigs list, and I managed to run them all into the ground.

Got it into the shop yesterday and my worst fears were confirmed, so last night we hunted for a new car and found the saturn since we definitely weren't throwing anymore money into fixing this piece of shit. All day today was like driving around a time bomb and the ticking was audible to anyone within 100 ft of the car, as the rod kept banging away faster and faster the longer I drove. I began throwing it into neutral anytime I had enough speed going, and especially when going down a hill. I just wanted the car to survive one more day.

I got the deposit done, picked up the GF and we headed out the dealership. Luckily we made it there and worked out a nice deal for the new car. But it wasn't ready as they still had to detail it, so they told us to come pick it up tomorrow afternoon. We got back into the Rodeo and hoped it could survive the 15 minute drive back to the house... and of course it didn't. Right when we got halfway between the house and the dealership the car died on us... on the highway of course. Luckily there wasn't any smoke or flames (like I had on one of my last cars) so I just pulled it to the side of the road. We called AAA and were told we'd have a 2 hour wait for a tow truck... so we got some food, then got lucky and they actually came after 1 hour.

Home now and tired. Not really feeling poker right now though I definitely need to play and get that extra cash flow going to cover all these fun new expenses. I'm really happy to have a new car though, cause I've never had anything with any sort of warranty or less than 100,000 miles on it. It will be a good feeling to know the car is gonna start and isn't going to break down, and if it DOES, I won't have to pay for the fucking repairs.

The new apartment will be sweet also. Feb 1st we move in. Biggest problem is that we're not rolling deep in money and don't have that much stuff to move into the place. Hopefully I can earn enough FPP to get a TV off of PS. We're basically gonna have to slowly furnish the place as time goes on. We do have a bed and a table for the computer, and that's all that matters, right?



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Ahhh
  k2o4, Jan 17 2008

Vid isn't working, trying again...





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The Ramrods
  k2o4, Jan 17 2008

EDIT: Embedded music and vid are not working, which is totally killing the intended awesomeness of this blog post... oh well.







(I'm reposting this from my team's forum cause the Ramrods just got their first music video and I thought it would be nice to share it with everyone). New Music Video

I've mentioned The Ramrods before. Actually, Flip, you listened to them in my car when we drove up on the road trip. I've got a bit of a tie to the band that's kept me up to date with them even when I try to be apathetic. More than just liking their music, I know about them because the lead singer is my step-dad.



That's him 20 or so years ago. Actually, when he was my age he was in this band. When I'm my age I'm running a BW team. He gives me lots of shit for this. I give him shit for being old and it all works out.

I can't really tell you about The Ramrods as well as he can though, so I won't try and will instead share the email I just got from him. Enjoy.


  I'm certain that Susan Rynski was at every gig we played in the Ramords' long, 6 month + 3 week run. Like the first time, the night Elvis died August 16, 1977. The next two times we played, Marc Bolan died in a car wreck, and the Lynyrd Skinner plane crashed. People started saying to us, "Uhhh, maybe you guys shouldn't play."

The internal politics of The Ramrods was a seething cesspool of twisted emotion. Which created a wonderful stage show, if you're of the ilk who like to watch people suffer. In public. On stage. Every time we'd play, I'd manage to piss lots of people off. To wit: we had a three night stand at the Velvet Hammer - a biker bar on 11 Mile - with Don Was' the Traitors and The Pigs. Now, every time we played fights broke out in the audience. Truly bad vibe onstage. The Pigs opened - remember Steve "Dr. Ching" King played bass, and with Mike Rushlow's witty/bitter/wistful writing (Steve contributed as well) they were my favorite band. So anyway, My Big Mouth got onstage, chose a loving biker couple out of the audience, and sweetly said to them, "Dude, your bitch gave me a blowjob in the parking lot and she raked me!" I'd clearly perverted the biker's sense of decorum, and he was on top of me like a cheetah on meth, beating the living shit out of me, and we hadn't played one note.

Once I was bleeding enough, the biker let up and The Ramrods began to play. Somewhere near the end of the set, I offered up some more of my patently philisophical statements to the audience, and the next thing I knew I was dragged off the stage and into the parking lot by 10 harley-booted bikers, who seemed to delight in this manner of recreation. I tried to fight back, but .. they stomped the snot out of me. Later, like two weeks ago when I had lunch with Don at Musso and Frank's in Hollywood, he recalled the incident and said, "You were great! You were like a fluffer for the Traitors!"

From our gig on Elvis Dies Day August '77, to the Most Bitter End at the Red Carpet on February 8th - Jerry Viles' birthday - 1978, we had managed to just make it all worse, we had lost The Battle for no good reason, far too many times. Plus we were tired of getting our holes worked by our extremely unpleasant guitarist. After 6 months + 3 weeks, we quit. I thank Susan Rynski for her perseverence, her great skill of capturing the days' zeitgeist. I also apologize once again for breaking your collarbone with my mic stand. You're a true friend, and a serious artist. You contributed greatly to the scene, and I'm thankful for it.

The Ramrods: Violence is Job One.

Ugh.

All hail rock'n'roll, baby!

-- Mark J. Norton, November 1st, 2005



So that's the story. I suggest checking out their site. They have started a bit of a reunion and done 2 shows in the last year or so, the last one being at new years eve at the royal oak theatre in Detroit, a show we got kicked out of cause an uptight security guard caught me drinking without a wrist band. Hopefully there will be more shows and The Ramrod spirit will live on.

http://www.ramrodsdetroit.com/

I close with a few more shots of the greatness that was, and still is (20 years later and 40 pounds heavier) The Ramrods.




and all grown up





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Very Quick NL200 Shot
  k2o4, Jan 17 2008

I've been aiming for a 6K BR before trying NL200, but at the same time I believe in moving up aggressively and taking shots. After studying my mistakes of the night I felt like I was playing overall pretty well and could do a good job of avoiding similar spew. Since it's kinda late (hence people are often tired and playing worse) and I napped in the afternoon and nice and awake, I figured it would be a good time to take a quick shot.

I was sitting on a $5,600 BR and figured I'd be fine with losing 3 buyins @ NL200 and rebuilding from $5,000 to take another shot later. I table selected like a virgin at a whorehouse and picked up 2 great tables. Decided to only play 2 as I've been playing less tables anyway, and this way I don't insta drop 3 buyins super fast. Plus I wanted to give full focus to the new playstyle.

One table had 2 super fish and 1 aggro LAG, while the other table gave me mostly nits. I had a LAG sitting to my right on both tables and they quickly tried to bully me out of my blinds, but some pretty quick 3 bets shut that down. On one table I was 3betting this guy so much that he kinda freaked out on me...



It did help that I ran well and got lot's of good cards, but sadly I didn't get paid off on any of them. I mostly won pots on the turn or river, with some going down on Cbets. Flopped 2 sets which didn't get action at all. Oh well, still managed to come out winning. Very short session of only 100 hands so obviously it tells us nothing in regards to sample size, but 100 hands DOES take a bit to play on 2 tables so it felt kinda long, hehe.



This bumped my BR to $5,900 so I think I'll continue to 2-4 table NL200 from here on out unless I drop 3-4 buyins, then I'll drop down and rebuild. Definitely a lot more 3betting and raising preflop going on, but I've really focused on learning about that dynamic while @ NL100 and even though I didn't have many people to practice with since many didn't get too light, I was able to get in and play my LAG game here without being intimidated by the 3bets and so on. Let's see how this goes over time. I'm going to put a lot of effort into playing every hand the best I possibly can and stick to 2-3 tables for the next session.

Nice to be here though. A bit late in regards to my hopes as I wanted to make it by the 15th, but this is fine. I just hope I can win some buyins @ NL200 before the end of the month and solidly entrench myself in the new limit!

Btw, this hand is MUCH more manly than my AK below:

Submitted by : k2o4

POKERSTARS GAME #14615475153: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2008/01/17 - 02:41:21 (ET)
Table 'Sirius' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: sampy345 ($207.80 in chips)
Seat 2: k2o4 ($295.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Drock8d5 ($200 in chips)
Seat 4: eastsideslim ($203.10 in chips)
Seat 5: TheAwfulDin ($233.25 in chips)
Seat 6: sexuelity ($200 in chips)
k2o4 : posts small blind $1
Drock8d5: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to k2o4 AhQh
eastsideslim: folds
TheAwfulDin: folds
sexuelity: folds
sampy345: folds
k2o4 : raises $6 to $8
Drock8d5: raises $16 to $24
k2o4 : raises $36 to $60
Drock8d5: calls $36

Flop (Pot : $120.00)

   2s7s2c
k2o4 : bets $235.55 and is all-in
Drock8d5: folds
k2o4 collected $117 from pot
k2o4 : doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $120 | Rake $3
Board  2s7s2c
Seat 1: sampy345 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: k2o4 (small blind) collected ($117)
Seat 3: Drock8d5 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: eastsideslim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: TheAwfulDin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sexuelity folded before Flop (didn't bet)





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Not Manly Enough
  k2o4, Jan 16 2008

What's the manly way to play this hand? (Just sat at table with villain, our first hand together)...

Submitted by : k2o4

POKERSTARS GAME #14612301863: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/01/16 - 23:02:42 (ET)
Table 'Dike' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Wild_Bill_X ($338.35 in chips)
Seat 2: SHMONYA ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 3: k2o4 ($104 in chips)
Seat 4: Dutch Rocket ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: cardsharkk04 ($105 in chips)
k2o4 : posts small blind $0.50
Dutch Rocket: posts big blind $1
fab91: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to k2o4 AhKh
cardsharkk04: raises $3 to $4
Wild_Bill_X: folds
SHMONYA: folds
k2o4 : raises $9 to $13
Dutch Rocket: calls $12
cardsharkk04: folds

Flop (Pot : $30.00)

   Th3s6s
k2o4 : bets $18.50
Dutch Rocket: calls $18.50

Turn (Pot : $67.00)

   Th3s6sQc
k2o4 : checks
Dutch Rocket: bets $20
k2o4 : calls $20

River (Pot : $107.00)

   Th3s6sQc2c
k2o4 : checks
Dutch Rocket: bets $48.50 and is all-in
k2o4 : folds
Dutch Rocket collected $105 from pot
Dutch Rocket: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $107 | Rake $2
Board  Th3s6sQc2c
Seat 1: Wild_Bill_X folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: SHMONYA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: k2o4 (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: Dutch Rocket (big blind) collected ($105)
Seat 5: cardsharkk04 folded before Flop




Spewed a bit tonight in bad all-ins yet came out slightly up. This was my biggest spew that was not an all-in.

Planned to play poker earlier this afternoon but fell asleep after eating a huge late lunch and watching an episode of heroes. Sat into a horrible session where I managed to dump 2 buyins really quick, so I got off and watched JohnnyCosmo's video from the DonkTest site. Was actually pretty good and when I got back on I played overall well, but got it in stupid a bit which caused me to not get it in later when my gut said push but my balls said fold.

Oh well, that's poker, right?



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Jan @ NL100 till now
  k2o4, Jan 16 2008

Well had my first solid winning day in a while pulling in 6 buyins over about 900 hands. Playing less tables has really paid off and it feels great to be PAYING ATTENTION rather than just maniacally spewing everywhere. I'm basically exactly where I was a week ago but that's ok, glad that I didn't downswing too hard. I think I did an overall ok job of avoiding tilt, usually quitting sessions after tilting off only 1 buyin. Only had 1 session where I played way too long and I still am kicking my own ass over it.

Still hopeful to move up to NL200 by the end of the month. I think it's definitely possible and if I keep playing smart like I did today then I think I can move up and win. Overall have run pretty well this month and think that this downswing would have been a lot more of a wall where I broke even for 6,000 hands if I hadn't let tilt affect me. Here's the pics:

Here's PT stats for January:


Graph for January:


Graph of the downswing:


Never got down more than 6 buyins, so that's nice. Guess it wasn't really much of a downswing at all.

I feel like I could have handled myself much better during this cold period, but I am overall happy cause it forced me to learn a lot more stuff and now I'm playing less tables and really focusing a lot more. I dumped a handful of the stats I had displayed with PAH cause I was relying on them too much and am now focusing more on game flow, timing tells, and watching hands that I'm not involved in to get info. Plus I'm playing 4 tables max and am totally absorbed the entire time, never bored. It's great.

That's all for now. It's late and I should be in bed but wasn't able to fall asleep and felt hungry. Had a big bowl of mac-n-cheese and did this post, and now feeling kinda sleepy.

Gnight



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I Don't Believe It
  k2o4, Jan 15 2008

I actually won some money in a session through hands where I played well instead of sucking out on people! OMG IT'S A MIRACLE!

I also sat down into a serious card rush and think I played pretty well. Weird session though cause despite winning I was still pretty confused most of the time. I've started playing 2-3 tables cause I've been tilting and spewing while running bad and I realized that I had completely stopped analyzing hands and situations with any sort of depth, and wasn't even putting people on hands.

Till this session I'd lost about 5 buyins over the last 5 days due to tilt, bad play, cold cards and many suckouts. Pretty much any good hand I did make (which was rare) didn't get paid off, and if someone did stick around they sucked out on me. The weirdest part though is that the thing that kept me afloat and allowed me to avoid a 10-15 buyin downswing was that I kept sucking out on people. I think about 85% of my big pots over the last 5 days I won by sucking out bigtime. That's pretty depressing and very strange to me.

Anyway, thanks to my insanely bad play the last 5 days I've started posting a million hands up, and making a lot of posts on the forums asking for help. Unfortunately these are my first hands posted in the Medium Stakes forums and the combination of so many hands and so many bad plays has created an Anti-k2o4 movement amongst some of the posters there. I apparently suck very badly and am wasting peoples time. Ouch.



But life goes on. Somehow I will find a way to live without their approval!

Good news is that playing so few tables has gotten me back into THINKING rather than spewing, which is awesome. Still have some Q's though and since I've already posted a million hands in the forumz today I figure I'll just post em here in my blog where the haters will have no reason to hate on em. Like always, help is much appreciated. All of these hands have the results cause I'm not in the mood to repost em - I posted em using the TL handposter tool while I was playing.

1) Like I said, I sat into a hot run of cards. I hit KK as the first hand on one table and like the 3rd hand on a second table. I followed the exact same line on both tables with 2 different results. I think I played them ideally but I'm curious if there's any situations where slowing down on turn with a smaller bet or a check is a good move. Here are the 2 hands:

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/361970
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/362057


2) I'm pretty sure this is a clear fold as played. I am curious if this is ever a flat call though... I often raise leads into if I have a hand or if I have a draw, or if I think it's a weak lead trying to push me off when I have air. So with an OESD + 1 over I felt like a raise was right here. I'm guessing everyone will call this standard, but I wonder if it ever makes sense to flat in this spot.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/361976


3) One of my early hands vs this guy. I later learned a bit about his bet sizes which would have made this easier, but at the time I was confused to no end. Assuming you had just sat with this guy, how would you respond facing this line?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/361990


4) I think I messed up here by betting the turn. Any weaker hand is definitely folding and I'm probably only getting a call here from like AJ, 79, a set or a flush. Checking allows 9T and 78 to draw and possibly pay me a bit more when they miss, and allows junk jacks to pay off a small river bet. I dunno, my standard is to keep betting but I wonder if I just folded out all hands that I beat with that bet.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/362016


5) Here I really think I made a mistake with the turn bet. I figure I need to check and give him the chance to make a flush, and if he has a set he'll get it in on the river with me anyway. Plus, I tend to check weak there.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/362028


6) This one is funny cause if he's telling the truth I just got him to fold the same hand as me. On the flop I go "HELL YES" and feel like I'd love to get it all in right there. But I decided to flat his raise and go for the CRAI on the turn... but that K does suck cause it boats it up and my only hope is the str8flu. Mmm, probably bad to CrAI there, but if he was telling the truth it probably worked out for me.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/362035


Thanks all for any help. Still learning here and know I have a long way to go. But I feel a lot of improvement so I'm happy despite being stuck between $5,000 and $5,500 for the last week.



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