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RiKD    United States. Jun 19 2019 05:59. Posts 8506
Hi Guys,

I want to explore intersectionality in my blog tonight. I currently cannot sleep. I never really understood intersectionality and I still might not but I figured maybe writing about it will show the leaks.

Intersectionality meaning everything is connected. For example, I like the idea of carnism being a root evil. It starts with domination and oppression of animals and it makes it easier to dominate and oppress people. The holocaust took strategies from factory faming and factory farming takes strategies from the holocaust and slavery.

It appears the problem either starts with capitalism or rich white males or racism or specieism or sexism. See, it's all inter-related. Feminists like to call it the patriarchy. I just like to call it rich white males. Capitalism sort of formed around rich white males. White males got rich through capitalism and it kind of spiraled into this twisted behemoth that we see today. It's kind of difficult to not be a bit of a twisted soul to make it in capitalism today. So, we have these twisted people running things in this twisted system and it causes a lot of problems. And, one of the problems is the forms of control and changing and getting more devious. The achievement-subject is a project of being an entrepreneur of the self. We are master and slave in one. I try to avoid this like the plague. I honestly try to avoid corporations like the plague too but it's a tough thing to do if you want to eat.



I remember this book had a tremendous impact on the way I viewed life about 8 years ago. It's a great book for budding achievement-subjects looking to burnout or even just live a life of tiredness and undeadness. That is the thing. I don't think as humans we are inherently doomed to a life of tiredness and undeadness. I definitely feel it these days but not as bad as I once did for a large multinational. But, I didn't feel the tiredness and undeadness when I took that month off of work. There was still boredom and restlessness and whatever but there wasn't the tiredness or the undeadness. I am sure those of you who work for a living know what I mean. If you don't know what I mean then tell me how you do it please.

But, this is why capitalism still exists. Because, we are well controlled. We are docile but not in the same way as in Michel Foucault's "Displine and Punish." It's like capitalism and the rich white men have set up this video game that we try and beat. Most of us will fail. Maybe not even most of us on this website which is why it's so hard to see this point. If you are entrenched in the achievement-subject project - the self imposed (best) video game/simulation that fact is obviously going to be a blind spot. The game is made for cis white males. The game is made for cis white males and I failed. How does that make me feel? What about all the others who failed or never had a chance? One of the problems with failing is that there is no alternative. It's like once you step out of that video game which sucks for most people you are still in a video game that sucks. It is very difficult to escape the tiredness and the undeadness as long as one is working for a corporation in a capitalist society. I would much prefer to just linger contemplatively. I prefer that lifestyle but don't know how to achieve it at this point.

It's funny the fact I am intersectional x I have so many avenues for activism and I don't really actively engage in any of them. Maybe, I am still learning. Did Occupy Wall St. even accomplish anything? I suppose we have to continue to fight. That is all we can do. That is a project in-itself. A pure project. I remember a day when I would work 12 hours and come home and check emails and be woken up by phone calls. Holy shit that was terrible. At least at my current job there are no emails, no texting, no phone calls. What are we all working towards? A big house and a country club membership? Come the fuck on. It is bigger than that. It has to be bigger than that.

You know I am not even completely sure that the feminists get it all right with their condemnation of the patriarchy. It's another complex entrenched problem. I took 0 gender studies courses in college though so I really don't know what is being taught in the universities. I took a social work course that touched on it but nothing nitty gritty. And, honestly, I never cared that much about it because it didn't effect me although I was always pro-woman. It's tough. I want to be a feminist but parts of the movement turn me off. At the end of the day I want to get rid of hierarchies, domination, and oppression. I want to be as understanding of all of this stuff as I can be. There is a lot of suffering in this world that can be alleviated if we just work together within our communities and hopefully come together on a global scale to take down some of this stuff.

"We are the children and citizens of the Earth" - Edgar Morin

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 19 2019 09:37. Posts 15163

What the fuck does being white or male have to do with anything lol

Seriously I get it, Americans feel guilty for slavery, near genocide of natives and their fucked up history, so now they are overcompensating.

It's time to grow the fuck up, take responsibility for your own life and stop living in the past though and treat people as people for the good or bad in them individually.

And more importantly, treat yourself that way, live by your own values, do the best with the situation you're personally in right now. What the hell does it matter if you're yellow black white purple or have seven cocks

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blackjacki2   United States. Jun 19 2019 10:46. Posts 2581

You have a successful father that got you a job in his company and you think your advantages comes from your skin tone? It's actually kind of unfair to all the other white men that weren't born into as fortunate of circumstances for you to lump yourself in with them.


iakim322   United States. Jun 19 2019 13:28. Posts 1335

No point telling him to grow up. Guy is easily past 30. And he just responds to such criticisms/advice by spewing some pseudo-intellectual bullshit to circle jerk himself into rationalization on why he has nothing and does nothing. So he can continue doing that. But manages to bitch about it.

Why has the human race generally moved towards capitalism? Why can't I just sit around, pretend to be an intellectual, and have the same material life as someone who works for it? Why did my parents have me? Why can't I just have my wishes fulfilled? Why is water wet and the sky blue? No I'm not just a lazy, ungrateful sack of shit...you're just not seeing it my way! It's endless.

I think I've figured out what actually bothers me is that it's people like him that give people with mental health problems a bad name thus helping to perpetuate the somewhat negative stigma that exists still. So eager to slyly assign blame while taking no responsibility of his own. Odd sense of entitlement with no awareness of it still.

I've been in and out of psychiatric care most of my adult life. A somewhat common thread is that at various points, I've somehow been incapable of making what should be clear, self beneficial decisions for my life and the people I value around me. Thank fuck that's where it ends. I'm going to end this by going back on what I started. Grow the fuck up


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 19 2019 18:45. Posts 9634

I kinda stopped reading at "carnism is the root of all evil"


Loco   Canada. Jun 19 2019 19:33. Posts 20963


  On June 19 2019 12:28 iakim322 wrote:
I think I've figured out what actually bothers me is that it's people like him that give people with mental health problems a bad name thus helping to perpetuate the somewhat negative stigma that exists still.



That's a fucking horrible thing to say. He's not someone with BPD/NPD who is going around ruining people's lives and refusing to own up to it. He's writing a goddamn blog because he's restless; he's not hurting anyone.

You talk about him not taking responsibility and blaming others, yet this is exactly what you are doing here, essentially victim blaming. Ironically there is nothing lazier than reducing someone's life struggles to simply being lazy because you can't be assed to ask yourself a few questions and try to imagine what life is like for them. It's entirely self-serving. Incidentally, that is why there is a stigma around mental health, because self-serving ideas about mental illness are the dominant ones.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 19/06/2019 19:35

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 19 2019 22:32. Posts 34246


  On June 19 2019 18:33 Loco wrote:

He's writing a goddamn blog because he's restless; he's not hurting anyone.




but you taught us that ideas do hurt people and we can use force to stop them so... #punchRikD

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 19 2019 22:40. Posts 34246

so intersectionality taught you that racism, classism and sexism are evil ... so fuck white rich men

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Loco   Canada. Jun 19 2019 22:52. Posts 20963


  On June 19 2019 21:32 Baalim wrote:
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but you taught us that ideas do hurt people and we can use force to stop them so... #punchRikD


No, I changed my mind. You convinced me that ISIS suicide bombers are only a problem once they have successfully suicide bombed people. I hadn't realized before you provided evidence that if they were just talking about it, we shouldn't be concerned about it. That was the day where I became enlightened about the value of freeze peach.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 19/06/2019 22:54

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 20 2019 00:14. Posts 15163

It's spelled free speech I believe, and I for one think it's really cool you and Baal finally agree on something and he actually changed your mind!

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Loco   Canada. Jun 20 2019 01:22. Posts 20963

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 20 2019 01:31. Posts 34246


  On June 19 2019 23:14 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
It's spelled free speech I believe, and I for one think it's really cool you and Baal finally agree on something and he actually changed your mind!



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Loco   Canada. Jun 20 2019 03:58. Posts 20963

Baal and I agree that this is the jam of the week

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

RiKD    United States. Jun 20 2019 04:44. Posts 8506


  On June 19 2019 17:45 Spitfiree wrote:
I kinda stopped reading at "carnism is the root of all evil"



I said it is a root evil. Dominance and oppression starts with animals. The dominated and oppressed are animalized/de-humanized. Domestic abuse is synonymous with animal abuse. Meaning domestic abusers are first or synonymously abusing pets before/during they are abusing family members. The Nazis were informed on how to build proper concentration camps from factory farming and then in turn factory farming took the updates and efficiency from the Holocaust to better their profit. The commodification of cows for example in all of it's manipulation can also be compared to how labor is exploited. The bourgeois manager can go out and eat a juicy steak and then schedule his employees to work 2 jobs or 2 shifts instead of 1. This last statement is hyperbole but there is a lot of truth to it.


RiKD    United States. Jun 20 2019 04:44. Posts 8506


  On June 19 2019 08:37 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
What the fuck does being white or male have to do with anything lol

Seriously I get it, Americans feel guilty for slavery, near genocide of natives and their fucked up history, so now they are overcompensating.

It's time to grow the fuck up, take responsibility for your own life and stop living in the past though and treat people as people for the good or bad in them individually.

And more importantly, treat yourself that way, live by your own values, do the best with the situation you're personally in right now. What the hell does it matter if you're yellow black white purple or have seven cocks



So, you don't believe that privelege or racism exist?


RiKD    United States. Jun 20 2019 04:47. Posts 8506


  On June 19 2019 09:46 blackjacki2 wrote:
You have a successful father that got you a job in his company and you think your advantages comes from your skin tone? It's actually kind of unfair to all the other white men that weren't born into as fortunate of circumstances for you to lump yourself in with them.



It turns out that wasn't an advantage eh?

And, yes, I think I do have an advantage because of my skin tone and my class.

I don't lump myself in with very poor white males from birth as I was privileged in many ways but does it really matter? I am a poor white male today so....?


RiKD    United States. Jun 20 2019 04:49. Posts 8506


  On June 19 2019 12:28 iakim322 wrote:
No point telling him to grow up. Guy is easily past 30. And he just responds to such criticisms/advice by spewing some pseudo-intellectual bullshit to circle jerk himself into rationalization on why he has nothing and does nothing. So he can continue doing that. But manages to bitch about it.

Why has the human race generally moved towards capitalism? Why can't I just sit around, pretend to be an intellectual, and have the same material life as someone who works for it? Why did my parents have me? Why can't I just have my wishes fulfilled? Why is water wet and the sky blue? No I'm not just a lazy, ungrateful sack of shit...you're just not seeing it my way! It's endless.

I think I've figured out what actually bothers me is that it's people like him that give people with mental health problems a bad name thus helping to perpetuate the somewhat negative stigma that exists still. So eager to slyly assign blame while taking no responsibility of his own. Odd sense of entitlement with no awareness of it still.

I've been in and out of psychiatric care most of my adult life. A somewhat common thread is that at various points, I've somehow been incapable of making what should be clear, self beneficial decisions for my life and the people I value around me. Thank fuck that's where it ends. I'm going to end this by going back on what I started. Grow the fuck up



This post is pretty bad. I have had a long day of traveling and it's not really worth it so I'll give you a Whatever Dude.


RiKD    United States. Jun 20 2019 04:53. Posts 8506


  On June 19 2019 21:40 Baalim wrote:
so intersectionality taught you that racism, classism and sexism are evil ... so fuck white rich men



No, I don't really blame them. Most are pretty annoying though. The systems that cause it all are what is really annoying. Rich white males and capitalism is just a bad loop that happens. The nature of it leads to racism, classism, and sexism and racism, classism, and sexism leads to rich white males and capitalism.


RiKD    United States. Jun 20 2019 04:57. Posts 8506


  On June 20 2019 02:58 Loco wrote:
Baal and I agree that this is the jam of the week




Now, that's some proper sweet chin music. Bravo.


Baalim   Mexico. Jun 20 2019 06:04. Posts 34246


  On June 20 2019 03:53 RiKD wrote:

No, I don't really blame them. Most are pretty annoying though.



"Most black women are pretty annoying" would be considered racist, you have double standards because you see the world through a opressed/opressors lens which just make you huge hypocrites and have to cope with the obvious self contradiction by redefining words, "racism isnt prejudice based on skin color, racism is prejudice + power".

Good'ol horseshoe theory, left and right alike playing the identity game and both believe you have the moral imperative that justifies violence because you are saving the world, maniacs.

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 20 2019 06:07. Posts 34246


  On June 20 2019 03:44 RiKD wrote:
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So, you don't believe that privelege or racism exist?


let me answer for him.

There are endless forms of privilege, attractiveness being one far more important than any race for example, also intelligence, indostriousness, emotional stability, creativity and thousands more are you accounting for these in your victim olympics?

yes racism exists, and when you hate on people because they are white you joined their ranks.

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 20 2019 06:22. Posts 34246


  On June 20 2019 02:58 Loco wrote:
Baal and I agree that this is the jam of the week




I was youtubing for a similar video but with an antifa getting clubbed with no success but I stumbled into this madness, who would have guessed that afterall it was you the one who had a lot in common with Stefan lol.

"a war against those willing to use violence in the propagation of their hateful ideology... I condition my ideas according to the evidence, the time for arguments is past" Loco Stefan Molyneux.

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 20 2019 10:04. Posts 15163


  On June 20 2019 03:44 RiKD wrote:
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So, you don't believe that privelege or racism exist?

Oh racism does exist, racism is when you clump people together based on the colour of their skin instead of treating them as individuals based on merit.

And it seems to be on the rise in the US by the virtue signalling simpletons who don't realize they are being racist themselves

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 20 2019 11:16. Posts 15163


  On June 20 2019 03:53 RiKD wrote:
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No, I don't really blame them. Most are pretty annoying though. The systems that cause it all are what is really annoying. Rich white males and capitalism is just a bad loop that happens. The nature of it leads to racism, classism, and sexism and racism, classism, and sexism leads to rich white males and capitalism.

See this is what I mean
You don't see how racist you sound?

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blackjacki2   United States. Jun 20 2019 13:02. Posts 2581

I'm no historian but I'd venture a guess that racism, sexism, and classism have existed for thousands of years, even in societies absent of "rich white men" and "capitalism." I'd also venture a guess that issues of trafficking, slavery, gay rights, women's rights, etc. are worse in non-white poor countries than in rich white capitalist countries. But carry on.


RiKD    United States. Jun 20 2019 13:57. Posts 8506


  On June 20 2019 05:04 Baalim wrote:
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"Most black women are pretty annoying" would be considered racist, you have double standards because you see the world through a opressed/opressors lens which just make you huge hypocrites and have to cope with the obvious self contradiction by redefining words, "racism isnt prejudice based on skin color, racism is prejudice + power".

Good'ol horseshoe theory, left and right alike playing the identity game and both believe you have the moral imperative that justifies violence because you are saving the world, maniacs.


At least some black women are pretty annoying. There is a loop with poor black males and capitalism that isn't so great. I don't like poor black male culture either but that is what capitalism has continued to institutionalize. I never said racism is prejudice + power but the whole point of the blog post was to explore intersectionality so their is a connection between racism and classism. It's the same playbook and it stems from rich white males under a capitalist system.

You are a maniac for being ok with Nazi's organizing and forming solidarity. We should let ISIS flourish. No need to eradicate them from Raqqa and Mozul and the hearts and minds of the Iraqi, Syrian, and Muslim people worldwide.


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 20 2019 14:04. Posts 5296

racism has not existed for thousands of years, it's a relatively new invention.

Most rich white men are pretty normal people and not psychopathic, they do bad things out of rationalization which is a common trait they share with all human beings, but also from adjusting to the culture they've been bought up in.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 20/06/2019 14:08

RiKD    United States. Jun 20 2019 14:10. Posts 8506


  On June 20 2019 05:07 Baalim wrote:
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let me answer for him.

There are endless forms of privilege, attractiveness being one far more important than any race for example, also intelligence, indostriousness, emotional stability, creativity and thousands more are you accounting for these in your victim olympics?

yes racism exists, and when you hate on people because they are white you joined their ranks.



Yes, I am taking those into account. Tyson Beckford is very privileged. That doesn't mean he doesn't/didn't experience racism. He is also still extremely lucky upon extremely lucky to be that good looking and also discovered.

I don't hate white people or even rich white people. It's just the way the cookie crumbled. My dad is a rich white male. My brother is a rich white male. I used to be a rich white male (I didn't tell you guys I transitioned.... My new name is Rachelle... bad joke....). I know and have known a lot of rich white males. I don't hate these people. These people are complex beings trying to live The Good Life just like anyone else. It's such a complicated topic. You get raised in this "competitive" world and compete and get told this and get told that and you watch Fox News and read this and that it's out of their control but you can't tell me that Dick Cheney is not an asshole and I could sit here for probably literally an hour listing rich white assholes. I could not do that with poor black women. Even though the amount of assholes as a % could be (probably is) the same. But, what is causing assholes?


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 20 2019 14:21. Posts 5296

I don't really think Dick Cheney is that different from the norm. I look at the new york times and see paul krugman arguing america's adventures had good intentions. People like to point the finger at cheney because he masterminded the iraq war, and it is easier to push the responsibility onto someone else rather than point the finger at yourself. It would be more accurate to say our society is sociopathic overall and institutionally than just the rich people that run it.

If you look at say the two people that founded google, it is only a few rationalizations between being the global spymaster and being a search engine without advertisements.

To address a few things in your blog:

Occupy Wall Street did accomplish a few things:
For one it exposed a lot people that previously had no part in politics to a lot of different ideas, and they got a taste of political activism.
Secondly, it brought wealth inequality to the discussion table, which was previously a pretty taboo topic in the media, but became something of mainstream discussion in the media afterwards. I think occupy could claim some credit for this.

Every progressive social movement in history has had it's detractors, so to say you don't agree with parts of feminism is not really a criticism. I'm sure there are probably no feminists that wouldn't say the same. There is still some way to go, consider the fact that child rearing is mostly done by women, is an invaluable contribution to the economy, and does not get paid. While financial speculation is bad for the economy, mostly done by men, and can get you paid obscene amounts.

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Loco   Canada. Jun 20 2019 19:07. Posts 20963


  On June 20 2019 05:22 Baalim wrote:
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I was youtubing for a similar video but with an antifa getting clubbed with no success but I stumbled into this madness, who would have guessed that afterall it was you the one who had a lot in common with Stefan lol.

"a war against those willing to use violence in the propagation of their hateful ideology... I condition my ideas according to the evidence, the time for arguments is past" Loco Stefan Molyneux.




Well, there was no need to guess, I directly quoted him saying it in the JBP thread before I made fun of you for thinking you are more logical than Aristotle.

Then there's the fact that there is no need to guess that fascists and people using dog-whistles for years like Stefan have no real interest in arguments. The real interest is pretending that you care about logic and debate. (Interestingly enough, when I posted the Contrapoints video on fascism over a year ago, you agreed with that! Selective amnesia is fun.)

Guessing is not necessary. You just have to be aware of your history. Only horseshit theory-believing liberals like you are so naive you take people at their word until "oopsie daisy" they are found openly saying they are fascists or being in a bar with a bunch of Neo-Nazis or until they have actually killed people. "Now we have the moral high-ground to retaliate!" Kinda exactly like the genocides you support with your NAP because "the landowners make the rules".

By the way, the Nazi who got knocked out in the video was harassing black people and throwing banana peels at them. Not that it changes anything because you'll stand up for every Nazi who isn't physically hurting anyone in front of you, you just hate violence so much, well, unless people are making money from it destroying their health in a modern gladiator war format, then it's your number one favourite thing in the world.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 20/06/2019 19:52

Loco   Canada. Jun 20 2019 19:38. Posts 20963

Actually, this isn't true, I made a mistake. You don't stand up for Nazis, you wouldn't defend that 'victim', simply because you don't stand up for anything. As an internet shitlord without a coherent philosophy, what you do is sit down for what you believe in. The real world is way too scary for you and it doesn't make you feel nearly as smart.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 20/06/2019 19:39

Baalim   Mexico. Jun 20 2019 21:00. Posts 34246


  On June 20 2019 12:57 RiKD wrote:
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At least some black women are pretty annoying. There is a loop with poor black males and capitalism that isn't so great. I don't like poor black male culture either but that is what capitalism has continued to institutionalize. I never said racism is prejudice + power but the whole point of the blog post was to explore intersectionality so their is a connection between racism and classism. It's the same playbook and it stems from rich white males under a capitalist system.

You are a maniac for being ok with Nazi's organizing and forming solidarity. We should let ISIS flourish. No need to eradicate them from Raqqa and Mozul and the hearts and minds of the Iraqi, Syrian, and Muslim people worldwide.



I dont want communists organizing and forming solidarity but I dont want people punching you either.

Your argument isn't different than people who think that evil zionist jews control the world, its just racism.

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 20 2019 21:07. Posts 34246


  On June 20 2019 13:10 RiKD wrote:


Yes, I am taking those into account. Tyson Beckford is very privileged. That doesn't mean he doesn't/didn't experience racism. He is also still extremely lucky upon extremely lucky to be that good looking and also discovered.



attractiveness has far stronger correlation with economic status than race

I don't hate white people or even rich white people. It's just the way the cookie crumbled. My dad is a rich white male. My brother is a rich white male. I used to be a rich white male (I didn't tell you guys I transitioned.... My new name is Rachelle... bad joke....). I know and have known a lot of rich white males. I don't hate these people. These people are complex beings trying to live The Good Life just like anyone else. It's such a complicated topic. You get raised in this "competitive" world and compete and get told this and get told that and you watch Fox News and read this and that it's out of their control but you can't tell me that Dick Cheney is not an asshole and I could sit here for probably literally an hour listing rich white assholes. I could not do that with poor black women. Even though the amount of assholes as a % could be (probably is) the same. But, what is causing assholes?[/QUOTE]

because there are far more white men than black women in the US, theres also a skewed distribution in notoriety making that even more dramatic, but if you made that same excersize im Congo you would get opposite results.... also as a counter to Dick Cheney I give you Condoleezza Rice.

You are judging people based exclusively because of the color of their skin and gender, that is by definition racist and sexist.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 20 2019 21:36. Posts 9634


  On June 20 2019 03:44 RiKD wrote:
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I said it is a root evil. Dominance and oppression starts with animals. .


I'll stay this upfront - I haven't read any anthropologic research about it but I'm pretty sure that carnism is a natural development of our survival instincts, thus our instincts are evil by default. What that means is even if we fix that, we would be lying to ourselves if we ever believe we're "good" when doing anything since our core wire is evil

You've been pretty brainwashed though, thinking there is a white male privilege. Even in the USA where that's an actual topic statistics completely destroy that thesis. This is a very lazy argument and honestly it just another retarded propaganda by yellow media that managed to get into the roots of western society as something relevant, while there are much larger issues to solve. What Baal said is true, statistically, if your face fits/is close within/to the golden ratio you're much more likely to have a much better life, then again I trust there're no ugly people, just poor people that don't exercise, except in cases where something has gone wrong genetically/health-wise

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 20 2019 21:48. Posts 34246


  On June 20 2019 18:07 Loco wrote:

Well, there was no need to guess, I directly quoted him saying it in the JBP thread before I made fun of you for thinking you are more logical than Aristotle.



wow I never thought you would openly admit you had a lot in common with his ideas. allrighty then...


  Then there's the fact that there is no need to guess that fascists and people using dog-whistles for years like Stefan have no real interest in arguments. The real interest is pretending that you care about logic and debate. (Interestingly enough, when I posted the Contrapoints video on fascism over a year ago, you agreed with that! Selective amnesia is fun.)



I like nataly and I agree with many of her points, edgelords from 4 chan take common symbols like the OK hand signal that was being used as meme as the "you look you lose", and then put them in nazi memes, then the alt-right uses the memes and the retarded leftists go apeshit about dogwhistles, then they go after anybody who does that signal who many happen to be doing it in the previous "dont look" meme and get them fired alienating the general public who doesn't know what is going on.

Seriously could you guys be any more retarded? 4chan trolls plays you like a stradivarius and make you look even more hysterical than you already are, I'm glad to see leftists haven't taken the last and more ambitious bait and declared clowns as fascists yet.


  Guessing is not necessary. You just have to be aware of your history. Only horseshit theory-believing liberals like you are so naive you take people at their word until "oopsie daisy" they are found openly saying they are fascists or being in a bar with a bunch of Neo-Nazis or until they have actually killed people. "Now we have the moral high-ground to retaliate!" Kinda exactly like the genocides you support with your NAP because "the landowners make the rules".



Yes It would be important to have solid evidence before labeling someone a nazi, especially when idiots like you support violence thowards them.

I dont know what NAP is.


  By the way, the Nazi who got knocked out in the video was harassing black people and throwing banana peels at them. Not that it changes anything because you'll stand up for every Nazi who isn't physically hurting anyone in front of you, you just hate violence so much, well, unless people are making money from it destroying their health in a modern gladiator war format, then it's your number one favourite thing in the world.



Wrong, if he is throwing banana peels to people that is harassment and thats not right, however if he wanted to express his ideas about a nation of one race or whatever retarded ideology he has, that should be protected by free speech, at this point I'm not sure if you understand or you just have strawmans as arguments.

Oh yes I do enjoy combat sports thank you lol, just not the initiation of violence to stop political ideas.


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"its not a slippery slope, punch more nazis"

So you for the 100th time you haven't responded, do you support punching islamists? YES or fucking NO, stop dodging, I don't care about "the will of the masses" do YOU support it like you support punching Nazis.

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Loco   Canada. Jun 20 2019 21:59. Posts 20963



The Baal of less than two years ago makes an appearance at 17:45! "There are no Nazis running around, that's not a thing." Interviewing someone who is literally downplaying actual Neo-Nazism... LMAO.

'tis all a big joke.

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Loco   Canada. Jun 20 2019 22:01. Posts 20963

"I'm an anarcho-capitalist, but I don't know what the Non-Aggression Principle is"

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 20 2019 22:07. Posts 34246


  On June 20 2019 18:38 Loco wrote:
Actually, this isn't true, I made a mistake. You don't stand up for Nazis, you wouldn't defend that 'victim', simply because you don't stand up for anything. As an internet shitlord without a coherent philosophy, what you do is sit down for what you believe in.



I stand up for freedom of speech, that is the hill I die on, your tribe in their endless stupidity decided to attack that and turned a big chunk of the neutral population into your enemies, turn everyone into your enemy and surprise surprise, you will lose. Watch as right wing leaders crush in elections because they will promise freedom of speech and when you get your canadian Trump I wonder if you will have the honesty to reflect and think "perhaps we shoudl have picked our battles better".


  The real world is way too scary for you and it doesn't make you feel nearly as smart



haha, imagine middle class Canadian telling that to a Mexican, your sheltered ass would die by just drinking mexican tap water lol

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Loco   Canada. Jun 20 2019 22:18. Posts 20963

Honestly you're daft with your "stop dodging". First of all you have framed this question deceptively from the beginning, you mention Muslims and Islamists, but you never qualify which kind they are (i.e. radical or not), effectively creating a false equivalency between them as if there were also two kinds of Nazis: "peaceful Nazis" and "Radical Nazis" -- an utterly laughable idea. You have been called out on this by Drone and I but you refuse to acknowledge it. I would expect this deceptive strategy out of a white nationalist or supremacist, what is truly sad is that I know you aren't one, you are just repeating the talking points that they or their useful idiots repeat to serve their interests.

Moving beyond that obvious manipulation, I answered your question (as if it had been properly formulated) twice already. I said I was done discussing this subject with a brick wall, but I'll be nice and repeat the short of it: I said there was no difference between white supremacy and radical islamism and that when they both organize, they have to be stopped. I even answered it again albeit indirectly when I ironically mentioned that I supported your passivity with regards to suicide bombers in this very thread. That's a clear yes -- I am in favor of pre-emptively stopping violence, with violence if necessary. It's amazing how little ability you have for logical deduction. Do you need it drawn up on a board so that you don't ask me again in a week?

"Wrong, if he is throwing banana peels to people that is harassment and thats not right"

Nice equivocating there. Saying "thats not right" is still not standing up for anyone or anything. It doesn't say what you would support doing in that situation. And if you are suddenly drawing the line at harassment to justify physical violence, you are being a hypocrite, and anyone can use the exact same slippery slope fallacy that you always use to justify how immoral you are.


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It's only a "retarded video" because it sums up every single argument you've made in two minutes and laughs at how mindless you liberals are.

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Loco   Canada. Jun 20 2019 22:45. Posts 20963


  On June 20 2019 21:07 Baalim wrote:
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I stand up for freedom of speech, that is the hill I die on, your tribe in their endless stupidity decided to attack that and turned a big chunk of the neutral population into your enemies, turn everyone into your enemy and surprise surprise, you will lose. Watch as right wing leaders crush in elections because they will promise freedom of speech and when you get your canadian Trump I wonder if you will have the honesty to reflect and think "perhaps we shoudl have picked our battles better".


  The real world is way too scary for you and it doesn't make you feel nearly as smart



haha, imagine middle class Canadian telling that to a Mexican, your sheltered ass would die by just drinking mexican tap water lol


That's cute how you added what you think my social class is (you got it wrong), but you didn't include yours, only the fact that you are a Mexican. You play this deceptive identitarian game and critique it on the same page, even mentioning "oppression olympics". How sad it is to be so little self-aware.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 20 2019 23:08. Posts 9634

I don't really think you guys will ever find common grounds when you're virtually only generalizing very sensitive matters.

Yes, prevention of crime is the best shit possible. Yes, prevention of anything bad is the GTO. No, it cannot work well in the real world with current technology. What we can do is have some sort of rules and investigations in each case as an individual instance without bias. The issue is, this could open doors for major abuses, thus we would have to think about mechanisms to deal with that as well.

Pretty sure you both agree with that actually

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Loco   Canada. Jun 21 2019 00:01. Posts 20963

I'm not generalizing shit. I've even given a formula as to what kind of escalation of violence I support under what circumstances. I couldn't be more specific. I've even explained my view of the necessity of dialogue/community regulating such "major abuses" that are always a possibility. That's why I'm done with the subject, because I am being baited to repeat the same things over and over again to a brick wall. It's not for lack of trying to get through. Some people just don't care about trying to understand other people's ideas or bettering their own positions, they are simply addicted to the drama, that's what they argue for. The strength of the wall (their immovability) represents how weak what is behind it really is.

Baal's immovability and the way he deals with ambiguity and difficult challenges exposes that he doesn't have a coherent philosophy and he has nothing to put into action. Being a consumer sucks, it's not meaningful, but that's all he has as an atomized individualist. That low-level anger and despair from the meaninglessness of his life is what fuels these senseless mini-battles where he feels like a warrior fighting the evil "broad leftists" who are ruining the world. It's pretty sad that in a world where we could have so many enriching adventures and relationships, people are reduced to this.

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 21 2019 02:26. Posts 34246


  On June 20 2019 21:18 Loco wrote:
Honestly you're daft with your "stop dodging". First of all you have framed this question deceptively from the beginning, you mention Muslims and Islamists, but you never qualify which kind they are (i.e. radical or not), effectively creating a false equivalency between them as if there were also two kinds of Nazis: "peaceful Nazis" and "Radical Nazis" -- an utterly laughable idea. You have been called out on this by Drone and I but you refuse to acknowledge it. I would expect this deceptive strategy out of a white nationalist or supremacist, what is truly sad is that I know you aren't one, you are just repeating the talking points that they or their useful idiots repeat to serve their interests.

Moving beyond that obvious manipulation, I answered your question (as if it had been properly formulated) twice already. I said I was done discussing this subject with a brick wall, but I'll be nice and repeat the short of it: I said there was no difference between white supremacy and radical islamism and that when they both organize, they have to be stopped. I even answered it again albeit indirectly when I ironically mentioned that I supported your passivity with regards to suicide bombers in this very thread. That's a clear yes -- I am in favor of pre-emptively stopping violence, with violence if necessary. It's amazing how little ability you have for logical deduction. Do you need it drawn up on a board so that you don't ask me again in a week?



I mean Islamists (believe in the spread of Islam in all the world ruled by a caliphate/sharia).

If you sanction punching Islamists in the streets, lets say in the UK where there are many, don't you think people will simply beging punching regular muslims too?


 

Nice equivocating there. Saying "thats not right" is still not standing up for anyone or anything. It doesn't say what you would support doing in that situation. And if you are suddenly drawing the line at harassment to justify physical violence, you are being a hypocrite, and anyone can use the exact same slippery slope fallacy that you always use to justify how immoral you are.



Not right meaning illegal, meaning police should be called and I'm also fine into taking the law into your own hands in certain cases so punch in the face gets my seal of approval too.



  It's only a "retarded video" because it sums up every single argument you've made in two minutes and laughs at how mindless you liberals are.



I'm a liberal now? thats a new tag, you love your tags dont you?

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 21 2019 02:46. Posts 34246


  On June 20 2019 21:45 Loco wrote:

That's cute how you added what you think my social class is (you got it wrong), but you didn't include yours, only the fact that you are a Mexican. You play this deceptive identitarian game and critique it on the same page, even mentioning "oppression olympics". How sad it is to be so little self-aware.



I'd consider my family uppder middle class... so are you low class? doesn't matter a gardener has a better wage than upper middle class families in Mexico.

I dont play the identatarian game, I couldn't care less about my nationality, but its retarded that you talk about the safety and "the real world" when you live in one of the most civilized and safe countries in the world and I live in one of the most violent countries in the world.. are you going to tell to people in Zimbabwe how they don't know about poverty or too?

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 21 2019 02:48. Posts 34246


  On June 20 2019 23:01 Loco wrote:
That low-level anger and despair from the meaninglessness of his life is what fuels these senseless mini-battles where he feels like a warrior fighting the evil "broad leftists" who are ruining the world. It's pretty sad that in a world where we could have so many enriching adventures and relationships, people are reduced to this.



projecting much?

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Loco   Canada. Jun 21 2019 03:36. Posts 20963


  On June 21 2019 01:26 Baalim wrote:I mean Islamists (believe in the spread of Islam in all the world ruled by a caliphate/sharia).



Islamists aren't all violent and they don't all believe in revolutionary action to implement those things so it's a false premise.


  If you sanction punching Islamists in the streets, lets say in the UK where there are many, don't you think people will simply beging punching regular muslims too?



Violence is extremely unpopular in modern society. People have been conditioned to accept the definition of violence and terrorism that suits state and corporate interests. This means that the pressure to conform and act non-violently is a very strong motivator behind people's actions and people who stray away from non-violence pay a strong social cost. I am not worried about slippery slopes because history shows that people who engage in anti-fascist action cease to do so when fascist threats are eliminated.




  Not right meaning illegal, meaning police should be called and I'm also fine into taking the law into your own hands in certain cases so punch in the face gets my seal of approval too.



It's not very anarchistic to call the police, let alone for such things. I think in this particular instance, if the police was called, they wouldn't have done shit. He would have just played stupid and said he didn't do what he did, and he wouldn't have felt less safe to do it again next time (or do worse). Now I think he's going to think twice.



  I'm a liberal now? thats a new tag, you love your tags dont you?



The version of free speech you defend is the liberal one. (You've admitted that you don't believe in absolute free speech, like the right to scream fire in a movie theater). It's just right-wing liberalism of the Rothbardian kind. But of course when traditional conservatives are demonetized for encouraging harassment and bigotry, you have a problem with left-wing liberals who you think run these corporations based on their values (they don't).

Rothbard called himself a liberal when he wasn't stealing the words libertarian and anarchist from us, so I'm just being accurate, even though his liberalism was quite extreme. Then there's the horseshoe theory which is a really stupid one-dimensional centrist/liberal theory which you just endorsed, remember?

It's kind of funny to think that while you push a repackaged Rothbardian philosophy, you also believe in the horseshoe theory. Meanwhile Rothbard had this to say about it: "Only extremists make sense, while eclectics and moderates are entangled in contradictions". How coherent

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RiKD    United States. Jun 21 2019 03:49. Posts 8506


  On June 20 2019 13:21 Stroggoz wrote:
I don't really think Dick Cheney is that different from the norm. I look at the new york times and see paul krugman arguing america's adventures had good intentions. People like to point the finger at cheney because he masterminded the iraq war, and it is easier to push the responsibility onto someone else rather than point the finger at yourself. It would be more accurate to say our society is sociopathic overall and institutionally than just the rich people that run it.

If you look at say the two people that founded google, it is only a few rationalizations between being the global spymaster and being a search engine without advertisements.

To address a few things in your blog:

Occupy Wall Street did accomplish a few things:
For one it exposed a lot people that previously had no part in politics to a lot of different ideas, and they got a taste of political activism.
Secondly, it brought wealth inequality to the discussion table, which was previously a pretty taboo topic in the media, but became something of mainstream discussion in the media afterwards. I think occupy could claim some credit for this.

Every progressive social movement in history has had it's detractors, so to say you don't agree with parts of feminism is not really a criticism. I'm sure there are probably no feminists that wouldn't say the same. There is still some way to go, consider the fact that child rearing is mostly done by women, is an invaluable contribution to the economy, and does not get paid. While financial speculation is bad for the economy, mostly done by men, and can get you paid obscene amounts.



It's a matter of scale. Scalability of harm. But, it's all fucked because the system is fucked. If we fix the system somehow than there isn't this institutionalized sociopathy. I once was at a Narcotics Anonymous meeting and there was a speaker telling their story. He talked about sticking up grandmothers in front of her grandkids for $100 maybe. The Iraq War was all about selling units. It ensured a lot of weapons to be sold and future very large engineering and construction contracts. It is no different to what happened in Flynt. That piece of shit Jamie Dimon puts that stooge in office so JP Morgan and Chase can secure a bunch of jackpot favorable investments for a needless pipeline that ends up poisoning an entire city killing many. They are manufacturing suffering in heinous ways all for profit. There are countless examples. I know you know this.

Yeah, I think Occupy can claim a lot of the success Bernie had as well but we need to scale this up somehow.

I really don't know much about feminism. I am trying to learn more. I would consider myself an intersectional feminist but I am sure there is more to it than that.


RiKD    United States. Jun 21 2019 04:03. Posts 8506


  On June 20 2019 20:00 Baalim wrote:
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I dont want communists organizing and forming solidarity but I dont want people punching you either.

Your argument isn't different than people who think that evil zionist jews control the world, its just racism.



Communism is basically a private property less, state less, money less society. We've had those in the past. From most accounts they worked out pretty well. There has not been communism in the modern world. Firstly, the black book is not reliable. Secondly, capitalism has caused more deaths than "communism" ever did and capitalism is heading for the extinction of humanity.

I doubt I'll be punched for liking Karl Marx especially when I basically talk about it with no one ever in real life.



#11 and #12 are the Koch Brothers by the way.......

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RiKD    United States. Jun 21 2019 04:19. Posts 8506


  On June 20 2019 20:36 Spitfiree wrote:
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I'll stay this upfront - I haven't read any anthropologic research about it but I'm pretty sure that carnism is a natural development of our survival instincts, thus our instincts are evil by default. What that means is even if we fix that, we would be lying to ourselves if we ever believe we're "good" when doing anything since our core wire is evil

You've been pretty brainwashed though, thinking there is a white male privilege. Even in the USA where that's an actual topic statistics completely destroy that thesis. This is a very lazy argument and honestly it just another retarded propaganda by yellow media that managed to get into the roots of western society as something relevant, while there are much larger issues to solve. What Baal said is true, statistically, if your face fits/is close within/to the golden ratio you're much more likely to have a much better life, then again I trust there're no ugly people, just poor people that don't exercise, except in cases where something has gone wrong genetically/health-wise



There is a difference between dominating an animal because we can and it tastes muy rico or whatever and having reverence for an animal and hunting it for survival. I remember on many occasions I defined my masculinity by eating a burger or a steak or whatever. I used to go camping with a bunch of guys and we would literally get high and feel powerful by eating 24 oz. prime rib cooked by an executive chef in the group. It's all really silly and sad. It's literally bloodthirsty to sit down and eat a rare 24 oz. prime rib or bife de lomo jugoso or whatever on many levels. Then we'd trawl for sick sluts or prostitutes or whatever because we are men, manly men. Wake up and fish. Smoke cigars. Lift kettlebells. You know how you kill the fish right? Well, easiest is to just throw it in a cooler and let it suffocate. Manly men. I caught more fish than you. Manly men. I did more meters of a farmer's walk faster than you. Manly men. Chocolate duckfat bacon. Manly men. Then we drive double the speed limit on the ride home and listen to progressive metal. Manly men.


Loco   Canada. Jun 21 2019 05:22. Posts 20963

If carnism was a natural instinct I'd expect children from many different cultures to want to kill animals to eat them rather than make friends with them. I would also expect people to make good arguments in defense of animal exploitation, rather than the desperate attempts they make to soothe themselves.

Even if it was a strong force within the psyche, due to evolutionary reasons, it couldn't be nearly as strong as sex, yet few people make a defence for rape and the inability to control their sexual impulses.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 21 2019 08:46. Posts 9634

Or it could be that our ancestors had days without food, thus meat was a fast source of stored energy. We were simply trying to survive for the majority of our existence as species, thus it makes sense this is deeply rooted in our instincts now. The urge of sex is pretty different since you restrain yourself but still search for someone to have it with willingly. The oppression of the desire for meat would virtually be a constant - agree that, again, without empirical evidence it makes sense that is way weaker compared to other instincts

That being said, I've said it countless times that I could easily be swayed to become a vegetarian due to moral reasoning, but I'm just hypocritical and lazy to put efforts in that.

Carnism isn't defined as oppression and abuse of animals, but using them as a source of food. Obviously, one goes hand in hand with the other nowadays even for industries that use the animals to produce goods for them e.g. milk, but it's still important to make that separation as the second could be fixed rather easily if efforts were put towards that direction.

@RikD sounds you had problems with your ego and so did your friends. I find that way of life disgusting. Again, quite hypocritical but hunters are just fucking retards imo, all of them. Killing animals for fun and ego purposes is borderline psychotic (Loco probably gonna make an argument of whats the difference between me and them since I consume animals, have thought about that a fair bit). Most fishing men I know release the fish they catch and do it as a hobby which relaxes them, which I can understand to a point and they also do it in a way which doesn't really hurt the fish so minor impact on the ecosystem

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 21 2019 10:32. Posts 5296

experiments in moral psychology suggest it's a natural instinct to make arguments about doing something because it's a natural instinct. I.e we make ad hoc justifications for our moral impulses.

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RiKD    United States. Jun 21 2019 14:38. Posts 8506


  On June 21 2019 07:46 Spitfiree wrote:
Or it could be that our ancestors had days without food, thus meat was a fast source of stored energy. We were simply trying to survive for the majority of our existence as species, thus it makes sense this is deeply rooted in our instincts now. The urge of sex is pretty different since you restrain yourself but still search for someone to have it with willingly. The oppression of the desire for meat would virtually be a constant - agree that, again, without empirical evidence it makes sense that is way weaker compared to other instincts

That being said, I've said it countless times that I could easily be swayed to become a vegetarian due to moral reasoning, but I'm just hypocritical and lazy to put efforts in that.

Carnism isn't defined as oppression and abuse of animals, but using them as a source of food. Obviously, one goes hand in hand with the other nowadays even for industries that use the animals to produce goods for them e.g. milk, but it's still important to make that separation as the second could be fixed rather easily if efforts were put towards that direction.

@RikD sounds you had problems with your ego and so did your friends. I find that way of life disgusting. Again, quite hypocritical but hunters are just fucking retards imo, all of them. Killing animals for fun and ego purposes is borderline psychotic (Loco probably gonna make an argument of whats the difference between me and them since I consume animals, have thought about that a fair bit). Most fishing men I know release the fish they catch and do it as a hobby which relaxes them, which I can understand to a point and they also do it in a way which doesn't really hurt the fish so minor impact on the ecosystem



I suggest you watch Earthlings or Dominion Spitfire. It shows what's really going on and not the nicely marketed and packaged animal products you see in the grocery store. It shows you what's REALLY going on. It's easily to rationalize consuming dairy products or eggs but if you REALLY see the process it is truly disgusting and sad. Not to mention even if the cows were as happy as possible they are being treated as commodities and you are consuming baby cow puss.

A friend of mine just went fishing with his son. They released the fish but the fish swallowed the hook and was super fucked up. So, in reality his son had some joy in catching a fish and now the fish will die a slow painful death. Fish swallowing hooks happens all the time. No matter what it's a traumatic experience for the fish all for some entertainment for the human.

We were just being manly men and eating steaks and powerful, dominant manly men and eating BEEF is another loop. Niggas be watching Conan the Barbarian and turning that line about dominating opponents and hearing the lamentation of their women into an ethos.

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RiKD    United States. Jun 21 2019 16:31. Posts 8506


  On June 20 2019 20:07 Baalim wrote:
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attractiveness has far stronger correlation with economic status than race

I don't hate white people or even rich white people. It's just the way the cookie crumbled. My dad is a rich white male. My brother is a rich white male. I used to be a rich white male (I didn't tell you guys I transitioned.... My new name is Rachelle... bad joke....). I know and have known a lot of rich white males. I don't hate these people. These people are complex beings trying to live The Good Life just like anyone else. It's such a complicated topic. You get raised in this "competitive" world and compete and get told this and get told that and you watch Fox News and read this and that it's out of their control but you can't tell me that Dick Cheney is not an asshole and I could sit here for probably literally an hour listing rich white assholes. I could not do that with poor black women. Even though the amount of assholes as a % could be (probably is) the same. But, what is causing assholes?



  because there are far more white men than black women in the US, theres also a skewed distribution in notoriety making that even more dramatic, but if you made that same excersize im Congo you would get opposite results.... also as a counter to Dick Cheney I give you Condoleezza Rice.

You are judging people based exclusively because of the color of their skin and gender, that is by definition racist and sexist.



It's scalability of harm though. I have heard countless stories of poor black women robbing people for crack cocaine but think about what the Koch brothers are doing. White men rule the world. They are the masters still. That isn't being racist that is fact.

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Loco   Canada. Jun 21 2019 17:57. Posts 20963

"The oppression of the desire for meat would virtually be a constant "

I mean, that's silly. I haven't eaten meat or animal products in years, do you seriously think I repress the urge to eat them? Do you imagine that I have wild dreams where I fantasize about it? That's what you'd expect out of someone who is repressing something, or being deprived of something. I haven't been sexually active in a few months and have sex dreams or at least some kind of erotic desire nearly every day, you know how much I dream about animal foods? Not at all. I don't dream about food at all because I eat plenty of it.

It's so easy to test that hypothesis... you can test it on yourself. I can tell you you're imagining something that doesn't exist. We evolved to seek high density calorie foods, period. We mostly ate plants and we have many more copies of amylase genes than other primates because we evolved eating tubers. (Potatos don't run as fast as gazelles, believe it or not.) We don't actually have any physiological adaptation to eat meat. A minority of human beings have evolved the ability to digest lactose and that's about it.

It is just a habit and a cultural preference. Once you lose that habit most people actually find them disgusting, especially if they know where they are coming from. The thing that gets most people off the track is social pressure, it's not some innate desire to be a bloodmouth. 'Carnism' in fact is a term that was coined by a social psychologist who looked at the way we justify those habits and preferences, and it ain't pretty.

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Loco   Canada. Jun 21 2019 18:12. Posts 20963

Racism is almost always defined by the belief in the superiority of one race over another. It's not defined by "judging people" by making a statement about the generalized privileges of different ethnicities.

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Loco   Canada. Jun 21 2019 20:12. Posts 20963

for your enjoyment rikd:

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 22 2019 02:07. Posts 34246


  On June 21 2019 17:12 Loco wrote:
Racism is almost always defined by the belief in the superiority of one race over another. It's not defined by "judging people" by making a statement about the generalized privileges of different ethnicities.



Intellectual dishonesty 101.



So if someone says: "those cunning jews control all of the media and shape the public opinion, they are the problem"

Is that racist or not?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 22 2019 17:47. Posts 5296


  On June 21 2019 19:12 Loco wrote:
for your enjoyment rikd:




resonates with me a lot, except i quit my first job after 6months and didn't spend my 20's doing that. I would get this look of extreme disapproval when asking for legally mandated breaks-your not really expected to ask for employers to abide by the law here; that's 'entitlement'.

when i was at university there was this fat guy in my class who would walk to unversity and arrive at 6am. (2 hour walk for him), looked like he never slept at all. He took 5 of the most difficult classes you could take, and worked at KFC for 3-4 hours a week at a random time they would designate with 24 hours notice and sometimes his shift would be one hour long. usually he would work at some ungodly hour like 3am-4am. He drank like 2litres of coca cola every day purely for the caffiene, until someone told him caffiene pills existed. (he told me about this crazy revelation). I asked what his parents did for a living and he told me they were both doctors lmfao.

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Loco   Canada. Jun 22 2019 19:02. Posts 20963


  On June 22 2019 01:07 Baalim wrote:
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Intellectual dishonesty 101.



So if someone says: "those cunning jews control all of the media and shape the public opinion, they are the problem"

Is that racist or not?




It is a statement that is open to empirical investigation and that carries certain implications. One of them is that there is a colllective "the Jews" that are doing some form of controlling by pooling their power together, and that this power serves a "Jewish agenda". Another is that there is a Jewish cunningness -- as if it was an immutable Jewish trait -- which grants them a certain superiority over others. If it turns out that it's not true (that there is no evidence for it), and instead it's an idea that floats around conspiracy theorist groups and racist groups, then we can safely say that it is racist.

It is in fact the case here as this is a common anti-semitic trope. It's in no way equivalent to saying that being white has been a boon throughout history and so has been being a male and that these boons still exist albeit to different degrees than they did at certain other periods in the past. It also doesn't imply that being a white man doesn't carry its own set of challenges or disavantages in some specific situations.

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dnagardi   Hungary. Jun 22 2019 20:56. Posts 1776

loco and baal

why are you derailing this blog so much.

you and your endless eternal battles in every thread.


Loco   Canada. Jun 22 2019 21:29. Posts 20963

I'm not derailing this thread right now, carnism and racism are the focus of this blog entry. Baal is the one who did the derailing early on by bringing up something completely unrelated to the blog. I don't like to be misrepresented so I replied but you're right if you're saying I shouldn't have.

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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 23 2019 00:46. Posts 34246


  On June 22 2019 18:02 Loco wrote:

It is a statement that is open to empirical investigation and that carries certain implications. One of them is that there is a colllective "the Jews" that are doing some form of controlling by pooling their power together, and that this power serves a "Jewish agenda".



a collective "white men" that are doing some form of controlling by pooling their power together and that this powe serves the patriarchy.

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Loco   Canada. Jun 23 2019 01:31. Posts 20963

What they do serves the systems that have favoured them, yes. The degree to which this is conscious and organized around is highly debatable. It's only really easy to observe in white nationalist and supremacist circles. Far-right women sometimes come out to say how poorly they have been treated by the men they previously adored.

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RiKD    United States. Jun 23 2019 23:09. Posts 8506

A little piece of Antifa history and what can we learn from it?


Loco   Canada. Jun 24 2019 00:47. Posts 20963

That's some good Toronto antifa history. Meanwhile today in Toronto:




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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 24 2019 13:02. Posts 15163


  On June 22 2019 19:56 dnagardi wrote:
loco and baal

why are you derailing this blog so much.

you and your endless eternal battles in every thread.


I can actually feel a lot of repressed sexual energy between them, chances are they are both rock hard every time they see the other mention them in their post!

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RiKD    United States. Jun 25 2019 00:54. Posts 8506


  On June 23 2019 23:47 Loco wrote:
That's some good Toronto antifa history. Meanwhile today in Toronto:


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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 26 2019 03:37. Posts 34246


  On June 24 2019 12:02 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
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I can actually feel a lot of repressed sexual energy between them, chances are they are both rock hard every time they see the other mention them in their post!


Loco can only get erect in a fur suit

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