PuertoRican   United States. Jun 25 2014 01:05. Posts 13051
Date: Saturday, June 28th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 1:30 LP.net / 11:30pm PST / 2:30am EST
Main Card (UFC Fight Pass): 4:00 LP.net / 2am PST / 5am PST
Live Streams: http://www.vipbox.tv (All MMA events are listed under the UFC button. Press the UFC button and you'll see the event in the list.)
- Anthony Perosh was expected to face Gian Villante at the event. However, Perosh was forced out of the bout with an injury and was replaced by Sean O'Connell.
- Claudio Silva was expected to face Neil Magny at the event but was forced out of the bout with an injury and was replaced by promotional newcomer and former Jungle Fight Welterweight Champion Rodrigo Goiana de Lima.
- Richie Vaculik was expected to face Jon Delos Reyes at the event. However, Reyes was forced from the bout with an injury and replaced by promotional newcomer Roldan Sangcha-an.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 25 2014 01:38. Posts 13051
First thoughts:
• JTH vs. Marquardt (Close fight to pick, so I went with Marquardt at +185.)
• Rosholt > Palelei
• Hioki > Oliveira
• Rhodes > Whittaker (Whittaker will probably win if it goes to a decision though.)
• Magny > Lima
Not sure on the rest.
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Nazgul   Netherlands. Jun 25 2014 07:22. Posts 7080
Medium bet here on Oliveira $190 at -190. Not really a stylistic reason I just think he's better than that. Apparently you pick Hioki to win straight up so I would recommend betting him at +165.
I'm also considering Marquardt at +180. Not sure about it though.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 25 2014 16:26. Posts 13051
On June 25 2014 06:22 Nazgul wrote:
Medium bet here on Oliveira $190 at -190. Not really a stylistic reason I just think he's better than that. Apparently you pick Hioki to win straight up so I would recommend betting him at +165.
I'm also considering Marquardt at +180. Not sure about it though.
So far, I have 1 bet on Hioki at +166 and 1 bet on Marquardt at +185. Gonna add more to Hioki after late bets come in on Oliveira.
For boxing, I have 1 bet on Yuriorkis Gamboa at +175.
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soberstone   United States. Jun 26 2014 03:05. Posts 2662
Not buying the Oliveira hype the UFC's been pushing eh? I'm not sure, he's got some sick skills but I haven't ever seen him put it together against top tier comp... not that Hioki is top tier but he's damn good. I'm sorta torn on this one (I think Olivera should win but I think the line is a bit wide)
I love Marquardt at that line but I could certainly see an early Tuna KO.
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Nazgul   Netherlands. Jun 26 2014 05:37. Posts 7080
My issue with Marquardt is that god told him to move up to 185 again and I'm not sure god has taken into account the size of his opponents.
Minsk   United States. Jun 26 2014 14:09. Posts 1558
After seeing how easily Shogun outskilled Te Huna. I think Marquardt has the skills to do the same.
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 26 2014 15:50. Posts 9634
Honestly who buys the Fight Pass for such events ?
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 26 2014 16:53. Posts 13051
I like many underdogs on this double-header card.
For the Australian event, I have bets on: Marquardt +185, Hioki +166, Rhodes +245, and O'Connell +250.
For the American event, I have bets on: Smith +180, Gibson +195, and Hamilton +120.
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soberstone   United States. Jun 26 2014 17:11. Posts 2662
I would never bet on Colton Smith, that guy may be a decent wrestler but he's one of the worst mma fighters on the roster, I think he loses and gets his papers, and I don't even know anything about the guy he's fighting so don't take this as any sort of intelligent comment regarding betting, but man that guy is shit.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 26 2014 17:54. Posts 13051
On June 26 2014 16:11 soberstone wrote:
I would never bet on Colton Smith, that guy may be a decent wrestler but he's one of the worst mma fighters on the roster, I think he loses and gets his papers, and I don't even know anything about the guy he's fighting so don't take this as any sort of intelligent comment regarding betting, but man that guy is shit.
Yeah, he's terrible, but he has a decent chin and his opponent isn't a good striker, he just brawls. Both guys were in a grappling tournament against each other last year and, from watching the video, I think Smith will do what's necessary to grind out a win. I have $10 on Smith at +180, and $20 on o2.5 rounds at -125.
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 26 2014 23:29. Posts 13051
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Baalim   Mexico. Jun 27 2014 02:30. Posts 34250
I dont like the bet on Nate at all, 3 loss streak, bigger weight class, TeHunas losses are only against top tier contenders and has a lot of KO power.. at those odds I wouldnt bet on Nate
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 27 2014 02:58. Posts 13051
On June 27 2014 01:30 Baalim wrote:
I dont like the bet on Nate at all, 3 loss streak, bigger weight class, TeHunas losses are only against top tier contenders and has a lot of KO power.. at those odds I wouldnt bet on Nate
It's all relative.
At one point, Te Huna was on a 4-fight win streak at 205 lbs. against weak opponents, 3 of whom aren't in the UFC anymore and the other guy is Jimmo, who beat Te Huna's ass in round 1 and then gassed out and lost by decision. Te Huna is currently on a 2-fight losing streak. He was exposed by Glover Teixeira and got taken down and submitted halfway into round 1. Te Huna then fought a washed up Shogun and was 1-punch KO`ed for leaving his hands down 1 minute into round 1.
Marquardt is currently on a 3-fight losing streak. He got leg-kicked to death by Saffiedine in a 5-round fight and lost by decision. He got TKO`ed 3 minutes into round 1 by Ellenberger, who looked great in that fight. He then got TKO`ed 2 minutes into round 1 by Lombard, which everyone expected, as Marquardt couldn't take down + submit + or knockout Lombard.
Marquardt moved back up from 170 lbs to 185 lbs for this fight, and Te Huna moved down from 205 lbs to 185 lbs for this fight. At +185, there's value in Marquardt, at least for me.
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soberstone   United States. Jun 27 2014 17:27. Posts 2662
Marquardt is a better fighter than TeHuna and is a pretty sizeable dog. Is he also washed up, chinny, and under-sized? Yes. It's all gonna come down to what kinda fight it is but if there isn't a finish, I sorta really like the Great at those odds.
Was Mike Rhodes on short notice or something against George Sullivan? Because I just watched that fight and I think Whittaker should destroy the guy I saw. Whittaker is a pretty damn good striker and theres no shame in getting put to sleep by Steven Thompson if you decide to fight his fight, which is exactly what Whittaker did. Before that he's looked very good and improving in each fight, including the Thompson one... he just got caught by a very good striker. These odds seem fine to me unless I'm missing something on Rhodes (trust me I don't hold losing to Brandon Thatch against him at all).
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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 27 2014 18:32. Posts 13051
On June 27 2014 16:27 soberstone wrote:
Marquardt is a better fighter than TeHuna and is a pretty sizeable dog. Is he also washed up, chinny, and under-sized? Yes. It's all gonna come down to what kinda fight it is but if there isn't a finish, I sorta really like the Great at those odds.
Was Mike Rhodes on short notice or something against George Sullivan? Because I just watched that fight and I think Whittaker should destroy the guy I saw. Whittaker is a pretty damn good striker and theres no shame in getting put to sleep by Steven Thompson if you decide to fight his fight, which is exactly what Whittaker did. Before that he's looked very good and improving in each fight, including the Thompson one... he just got caught by a very good striker. These odds seem fine to me unless I'm missing something on Rhodes (trust me I don't hold losing to Brandon Thatch against him at all).
Rhodes fought like crap in his UFC debut, and Thatch is just better than him.
Rhodes is a better counter striker, and I think that if this fight stays on the feet, it will be close. However, both of these guys are fighting for their jobs, so I dunno if this will be as epic as we all hope. I wouldn't be surprised if these two strikers go for a take down at some point and LnP for a bit, just to secure a round. Neither are good at take downs, no idea if either of them are good at BJJ.
Edit: Forgot to mention that Rhodes took his UFC debut on 11 days notice and had to cut 36 pounds to make the weight.