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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 08 2014 13:43. Posts 15163

Well fuck me
April 30th HEM stops updating HEM1, with how fast Stars is updating this is pretty much the end.

I didn't get quite used to PT4 and reverted to HEM1 but guess now there's no choice :/








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Highcard   Canada. Apr 08 2014 16:22. Posts 5428

hopefully they work magic on HM2 now

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

Highcard   Canada. Apr 08 2014 16:24. Posts 5428

what I mean to say is:

windows xp and hm1 support ending in the same month #conspiracy

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

drone666   Brasil. Apr 08 2014 17:56. Posts 1822

you have to use PT4 for a time before you get really confortable, but in the end is much better and you will see that your effort worth it

they support ending was probably good for you since you were using a really old software, and now you will force yourself into the evolution

Dont listen to anything I sayLast edit: 08/04/2014 17:59

Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 08 2014 18:07. Posts 4742

IIIIIIIIiiiiii just switched to HEM2, from PT4!!

I kinda mostly, used PT4 since it sounds like playstation 4, and i think id pick that console over xbox if i played games like that!


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 08 2014 18:36. Posts 9634

forcing you into HEM2 is forcing you into buying an SSD hard drive basically..


Bejamin1   Canada. Apr 08 2014 18:45. Posts 7042

Is HEM2 better... or PT4? I've used HEM1 forever as a casual player. Is the lag time that bad that you'd need an SSD? They are going to be on cloud soon which is supposed to eliminate all those problems, or so they claim in their little adverts on the website.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

Bejamin1   Canada. Apr 08 2014 18:48. Posts 7042

HEM2 is a 2011 project, so I'm assuming PT4 by virtue of being much newer is probably better?

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

redrain0125   Canada. Apr 08 2014 19:04. Posts 5455

rofl im not buying HEM2. fucking faggots.


Bejamin1   Canada. Apr 08 2014 19:17. Posts 7042


  On April 08 2014 18:04 redrain0125 wrote:
rofl im not buying HEM2. fucking faggots.



Yep, lol, that's pretty much what I said to them as well. They offered me a "40%" discount which was in actual fact a $25.00 discount off a $150.00 purchase price. They referred to this as a generous offer. As if I'd want to pay for software that is 3+ years old which they will probably "stop supporting" when HEM Cloud is released.

I e-mailed PT4 to ask what they could do, they pointed me to pokerstrategy.com. Register as a member for free and get 10% off the PT4 price. So the generous offer HEM was offering was the equivalent of a standing PTR offer that anyone can get at any time. Except that I can get that same offer on a newer and arguably better product.

That is some piss poor HEM management, oh well, their loss. It's at this point I'm really hoping both software companies aren't owned by the same people lol.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

redrain0125   Canada. Apr 08 2014 22:30. Posts 5455

https://www.pokerdata.com/


lhr0909   China. Apr 09 2014 02:37. Posts 423


  On April 08 2014 21:30 redrain0125 wrote:
https://www.pokerdata.com/



seems a bit sketch. How is it? I use fpdb (I am cheap as fuck, and I know some computers) and I am on bovada.

no pain no gain 

redrain0125   Canada. Apr 09 2014 02:49. Posts 5455

not sure. found it linked on this site http://www.cardschat.com/f61/poker-tracking-there-any-free-alternative-221254/


devon06atX   Canada. Apr 09 2014 02:57. Posts 5458


  On April 08 2014 17:07 Mariuslol wrote:
I kinda mostly, used PT4 since it sounds like playstation 4, and i think id pick that console over xbox if i played games like that!

I think I'm going to start calling my brothers puppy Marius. As a nickname. You're something special.

You guys are all up in arms about this? Yet no one flinched when Tableninja gouged the shit outta everyone. I paid for two 'lifelong licenses for updates' (they had already lied) before it went monthly based. And now I'm paying for that. 3x, nice deal for a lifelong license (and fuck you newb with your faggotry about wahhhh, they must support themselves). A deal is a deal.

I'm quite certain all that happened is that the HEM team saw the lack of solidarity between poker players with regard to getting fucking gouged with TN2, and decided to make a few more benjies.

The End.


devon06atX   Canada. Apr 09 2014 03:02. Posts 5458

So. Fuck them. Will I buy it? Absolutely. Monopolies gonna monopoly.

Will I piss on the management teams shoe if I'm ever afforded the opportunity? I'll firehose it.


Meat   . Apr 09 2014 06:40. Posts 3385


  On April 08 2014 18:17 Bejamin1 wrote:
Show nested quote +



Yep, lol, that's pretty much what I said to them as well. They offered me a "40%" discount which was in actual fact a $25.00 discount off a $150.00 purchase price. They referred to this as a generous offer. As if I'd want to pay for software that is 3+ years old which they will probably "stop supporting" when HEM Cloud is released.

I e-mailed PT4 to ask what they could do, they pointed me to pokerstrategy.com. Register as a member for free and get 10% off the PT4 price. So the generous offer HEM was offering was the equivalent of a standing PTR offer that anyone can get at any time. Except that I can get that same offer on a newer and arguably better product.

That is some piss poor HEM management, oh well, their loss. It's at this point I'm really hoping both software companies aren't owned by the same people lol.

PM me, I can do better than that for LP members.


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 09 2014 06:41. Posts 15163

someone actually bought TN2 ?

93% Sure!  

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 09 2014 07:11. Posts 15163

hem cloud is out already
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/con...rsion-of-HM-Cloud-now-for-free_82793/
what does that mean in practice?

93% Sure!  

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 09 2014 08:51. Posts 9634

will we have to pay again for HEM CLoud or witll it come as an add on to HEM2, since im not buying HEM2 if im gonna have to pay for Cloud in a 2-3 months again


ggplz   Sweden. Apr 09 2014 11:01. Posts 16784

HEM2 support has left some boss network players to rot for 7+ months with no update.. never using them again.

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 09/04/2014 11:01

HaiVan   Bulgaria. Apr 09 2014 13:02. Posts 2083

Sooooo I have to switch from HM1 soon too.

Is the consensus among the people that have used both PT4 and HM2 that PT4 is the superior product?

I'm kind of lazy about switching to new software, is PT4 a harder tool to use than HM2?

Id probably buy my next tracker by the end of the month, still not sure which direction to take.

I'll PM Meat about that PT4 LP members deal if i decide to use it.



Poker chobo. 

lazymej   Canada. Apr 09 2014 14:07. Posts 2897

I can get why they're stopping support for HM1, with it being so old.

But it's pretty shitty IMO how this is the last month for you to be able to upgrade to HM2 at a discount as an HM1 user as well, which is almost forcing you to upgrade NOW even if HM1 will still have functionality for a while.


Gnarly   United States. Apr 09 2014 14:14. Posts 1723

>not using PT4

Full pleb in here.

Diversify or fossilize! 

Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 09 2014 14:15. Posts 4742

i think how pt4 works, and flows as you play is better, and the layout. but as, how to use the stats, the numbers, info you can get out of the software, HEM2 seems to have a lot more, and its all better n stuff.

But then again, im not the right guy to ask lol


Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 09 2014 14:36. Posts 4742

Don't want to derail the thread, but came across this post lol


Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 09 2014 14:37. Posts 4742

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 Last edit: 10/04/2014 08:51

Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 09 2014 14:38. Posts 4742


Shiiit


Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 09 2014 14:38. Posts 4742

Ok, now back to hem1, shiiit, lemon sure got a tough choice, hem2 or pt4, how will he choose?


Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 09 2014 14:41. Posts 4742

I feel, a small apology for derailing wasn't quite enough, so here's a pretty good song as well, to make it perfectly alright:

 Last edit: 09/04/2014 14:42

maryn   Poland. Apr 09 2014 15:08. Posts 1208

cant believe i actually read this shit -.-


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 09 2014 15:31. Posts 15163


  On April 09 2014 13:38 Mariuslol wrote:
Ok, now back to hem1, shiiit, lemon sure got a tough choice, hem2 or pt4, how will he choose?


PT4
I sunk like 30 hrs into it, sunk cost baby.

Still need to spend like 30-60 more to actually make it good/get used to it...

93% Sure!  

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 09 2014 15:35. Posts 15163

there's this small annoying things in PT4 like
- can't export w/stats easily to LP
- you don't see HHs everywhere, in HEM1 in all stats reports there's a window with hands histories all you have to do it click PT4 is so bad in this reports etc.
- on the table it doesn't show pot size in last 5 hands so when I want to get reads retrospectively I have to click on every single icon on each table, look for big pot click again
- stats in popups show instanced even when there's 0 sample. HEM stops showing instances without hovering with large samples too it just gets annoying
- stats are weird, named arbitrarily (probe bet wtf) and many are missing - need to spend even more time on setting up the ones I want

They just drove me crazy really but I guess I need to spend hours trying to get used to them or finding workarounds... or I guess buy SSD get used to HEM2 change everything all over again another time wasted.

Fuck you HEM I want HEM1 :D

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Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 09 2014 15:36. Posts 4742

I just sent pm to all the top blog guys on 2+2, then switched to HEM2 lol

Vast majority said HEM2 was superior in every way when it came to going through hands, analyzing, and stuff like that.

But what do I know, just repeating stuff.


Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 09 2014 15:37. Posts 4742

+ i asked ppl i know on skype that play poker, one of them said I was a "faggot" if i didn't use hem2 (and I thought to myself, lol, i don't want to be that).

So kinda sealed the deal for me


devon06atX   Canada. Apr 09 2014 17:13. Posts 5458

Learn to combine your posts for fucks sake.

You turned a decent, coherent interesting thread, into a shitstorm.


Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 09 2014 17:39. Posts 4742


  On April 09 2014 16:13 devon06atX wrote:
Learn to combine your posts for fucks sake.

You turned a decent, coherent interesting thread, into a shitstorm.



Yeah, my bad, but in my defence, this time I noticed it, and I managed to put it back on track. So I'm working on it


devon06atX   Canada. Apr 09 2014 17:46. Posts 5458


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Apr 09 2014 19:03. Posts 6374


  On April 09 2014 16:13 devon06atX wrote:
Learn to combine your posts for fucks sake.

You turned a decent, coherent interesting forum, into a shitstorm.


fyp


after years, hm2 is still a buggy piece of garbage imo

ban baal 

devon06atX   Canada. Apr 10 2014 00:13. Posts 5458

Seriously? I saw the 40% off, was obviously snapcalling that upgrade.....

Can't be that bad? I have a subscription to pt somewhere.... I prefer HM1 over it...

wtf to do.

CASE OF BEER OR HM2/WTFEVER, OMG


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 10 2014 01:40. Posts 9634

which is lighter as a software pt4 or HEM2? seems like HEM2 will suck hard for me without a SSD, althought i got a quadcore with ddr3s and etc etc lol


Baalim   Mexico. Apr 10 2014 05:28. Posts 34250


  On April 10 2014 00:40 Spitfiree wrote:
which is lighter as a software pt4 or HEM2? seems like HEM2 will suck hard for me without a SSD, althought i got a quadcore with ddr3s and etc etc lol



its not about SSD but HEM2 does require about 2GB in ram per 500k hands in your database to run smoothly

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

RaiZ   France. Apr 10 2014 06:08. Posts 1503

Stopped using both software, since they both wouldn't support the french poker's sites. I guess that was another reason why I stopped playing online. Now can they support it ?
I remember I had a really hard time to configure the HHs history for PT1 or 2 and I'm not sure if I'd ever want to use it again >_<

Shin-il : Yeah it was very very very good for me too. Rekrul : YOU MOTHER FUCKING FUCKING SON OF A BITCH 

Garfed   Malta. Apr 10 2014 08:53. Posts 4818


  On April 10 2014 00:40 Spitfiree wrote:
which is lighter as a software pt4 or HEM2? seems like HEM2 will suck hard for me without a SSD, althought i got a quadcore with ddr3s and etc etc lol



PT4 definitely needs less resources from your computer.


 



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